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  140. b43 Was that an open source pun? Lol
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  154. mieum wasnt unix proprietary tho? multics too
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  342. benk Yes
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  349. Holger I was just making fun of our community (myself included) often preferring whatever we're used to over new solutions.
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  375. mieum if it aint broke.... :b
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  515. zp1.net > I was just making fun of our community (myself included) often preferring whatever we're used to over new solutions. Never touch a running system.
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  525. zp1.net That is wisdom. Of course, not everyone is able to recognize when a system is perfect, and overestimates himself, and then goes and changes something he should not touch.
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  615. tart > Never touch a running system. I so envied all those exchange admins with that attitude back in march.
  616. MattJ I hate to be the one to spoil the fun, but let's keep this room on topic :)
  617. MattJ There are many off-topic chats around
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  632. Licaon_Kter Twitch username filters, useful? https://ghostbin.com/57bCm
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  637. MattJ I saw those. I thought so too, then realised that once published they decrease in usefulness very quickly :)
  638. MattJ But probably still useful, if someone wants to put the effort into translating it to Prosody/ejabberd code.
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  713. tart > There are many off-topic chats around Alright, I actually have something on topic I was thinking about. I recently had trouble on my ejabberd Server with rejected s2s connections, the reason for which being, according to my log, an expired certificate. It was that DST Root CA X3 thing. What I did was generate new certificates using certbot and this option: --preferred-chain "ISRG Root X1" That made the problem go away. Has anybody else here experienced trouble federating, with that kind of error using the old LE-chain?
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  724. Licaon_Kter Yes, it was the problem of the day, during Sep 30-Oct 01
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  726. Licaon_Kter Scroll up...
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  729. zp1.net > There are many off-topic chats around Off- topic people make off-topic chats
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  750. Licaon_Kter Fun fact, the other day I had to follow this https://www.stoutner.com/lets-encrypt-isrg-root-x1-and-privacy-browser/ and import the ISRG cert (and disable DST) on an Android 10 chinese whitelabel tablet. F-Droid.org was working fine, but anything else was not, in Firefox, eg. It could not even connect to get add-ons
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  950. ernst.on.tour Firefox got this problem (to disable DST) on each platform, also on PC
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  1067. rozzin > I saw those. I thought so too, then realised that once published they decrease in usefulness very quickly :) Does a lot of that traffic come from people writing automatic trollbots vs. actual users, or... something? I'm naive on this; without having that background, it sounds to me like https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/spamassassin/PublicRules
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  1097. Licaon_Kter rozzin: it's more about trolling and griefing than bots. mattjsuxcocs@404 is made with an intent than random russian carder
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  1280. zp1.net Do we know by now what produced the blackout of the social media sites?
  1281. Menel Yes
  1282. Menel If you mean Facebook
  1283. zp1.net Yes
  1284. zp1.net All of them
  1285. Menel https://engineering.fb.com/2021/10/05/networking-traffic/outage-details/ & https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/ Licaon_Kter posted this...
  1286. zp1.net Fb, twitter, inta,...
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  1288. Menel One command, backbone composedly offline. All dns servers taking themselves offline because of it.
  1289. Menel One command, backbone compleadly offline. All dns servers of Facebook taking themselves offline because of it.
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  1293. tek_dmn And then apparently, physical access was controlled by their owh auth systems so people couldn't even badge in to fix it
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  1299. rozzin Well, thank goodness Facebook isn't actually responsible for all social interactions or "social media" on the Internet 😁
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  1301. zp1.net And why was twitter down?
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  1303. tek_dmn Especially with federated platforms like mastodon and diaspora now
  1304. Martin Was it?
  1305. zp1.net Yes and instagramm and whatsapp
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  1307. tek_dmn zp1.net: Probably because Facebook is large enough that them dropping out is a huge hole in the global routing table... that or anything that used Facebook integrations (analytics / sign in with / share on) also would have had problems
  1308. rozzin I wonder how many people didn't even notice until they heard it from a friend.
  1309. tek_dmn instagram is owned by facebook, as well as whatsapp
  1310. Licaon_Kter Was Telegram down too?
  1311. tek_dmn No. I can confirm that much.
  1312. Martin > I wonder how many people didn't even notice until they heard it from a friend. I only heard it in xmpp mucs.
  1313. zp1.net No telegram was just very slow
  1314. rozzin Martin: same here.
  1315. tek_dmn I heard because all my sysadmin circles were going crazy about it
  1316. Licaon_Kter Saw some tweets from Signal, who themselves where out last week, making fun of WA and Telegram..meh
  1317. zp1.net But xmmp was rocking like hell... Our server got 30 new users in one hour
  1318. Licaon_Kter Yes, xmmp the great audio player. But MPD is better :)
  1319. zp1.net But xmpp was rocking like hell... Our server got 30 new users in one hour
  1320. tek_dmn matrix had a decent influx too it looked like
  1321. Licaon_Kter Got one new contact these days, Apple user though :(
  1322. tek_dmn But all my stuff is controlled by LDAP, I don't allow public registrations, so I don't have any local numbers
  1323. rozzin I wouldn't be surprised if superpopular centralized services like Twitter, Telegram, Signal... effectively got DDoS'd by users rapidly and repeatedly posting about "OMG Facebook is offline".
  1324. zp1.net Yes, why was signal down? Is signal hosted by facebook?
  1325. tek_dmn possibly. also probably because they're BGP peers.
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  1327. Martin > I wouldn't be surprised if superpopular centralized services like Twitter, Telegram, Signal... effectively got DDoS'd by users rapidly and repeatedly posting about "OMG Facebook is offline". Take down all the dirt. 😃
  1328. rozzin Plus new registrations, maybe.
  1329. Martin > Yes, why was signal down? Is signal hosted by facebook? Afaik they are hosted by amazon.
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  1331. rozzin zp1.net: sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Signal went down.
  1332. zp1.net Aaaaa prolly they are all hosted by the nsa :)))
  1333. tek_dmn Why do you think I don't use any of the major ones.
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  1335. tek_dmn I genuinely just have Twitter to complain about FedEx playing hopscotch with my state whenever I have a package with them
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  1337. rozzin Martin: every time some big silo goes down and the other big silos get overloaded by the flood of users looking to talk about it..., I sit here going "man, if only we could get some of that flood..."
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  1341. tek_dmn Hold on, are my messages actually making it into here?
  1342. rozzin zp1.net: > But xmpp was rocking like hell... Our server got 30 new users in one hour How do new users discover your server?
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  1345. rozzin tek_dmn: you use twitter to complain about FedEx, yes. 😃
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  1347. tek_dmn Okay, I was seeing a lot of weird connection errors in the logs
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  1349. tek_dmn Knowing me, it's mediacom's modem crashing again.
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  1376. zp1.net > zp1.net: > How do new users discover your server? I really dont know, prolly one user recommend it to other.
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  1382. zp1.net I have a lot of gamers that's all i know.
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  1385. zp1.net Some radio-station fans ..
  1386. zp1.net Thy like the short url i suppose
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  1393. rozzin zp1.net: do you have open registration, or some sort of invitation or request system, or...?
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  1426. zp1.net rozzin: open registration.
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  1430. zp1.net Strange message i got :))) Establishing a secure connection from xmpp.net to zp1.net failed. Certificate hash: (No certificate).
  1431. zp1.net xmpp.net has no certificate?
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  1433. zp1.net I'l better drink another beer while you scan my server :)))
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  1475. Menel Better test your server with https://testssl.sh Its in debian as a package, but you can get it from that website as a scrit too. its much faster to test with, and supports testing of xmpp.
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