XMPP Service Operators - 2021-10-20

jonas’: What does the point _Gross misrepresentation of what the room is about in the listing_ in the TOS of search.jabber.network mean? Something like the description and content of the room being very different?

me9, yes.

jonas’: Only that? Did that happen often?

it did not happen at all yet, as far as I know

it's still something I want to have reserved as a reason to instaban.

Yeah okay.

the first three points, unfortunately, have had examples already :/

Of course, those things are much more probable to occur.

Hi, perhaps a silly question. I used to run ejabberd but I don't remember if it supported video streams. Does anybody have recommendation for a server daemon that supports the jingle/video functions if i want to stand up a new server that supports video streams for chats with family? Is it difficult to get the kinks worked out for that, and, recommendations for best bet for the family members who just want to click my link and join in without understanding anything else?

you might like snikket

https://snikket.org/

i'll take a look. thanks. sadly the ejabberd host is toast, so i figure i may as well ask around since i have to start from scratch

good luck 🙂

👍

idprism, ejabberd also support video calls

Thanks. I get to do a lot of reading in the different server docs right now. going to be a chore but fun once i get it sorted

https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/

but snikket might work as well, though

ah nice. i last ran ejabberd 19, so that's cool that it does support it now. time to play with install processes and playbooks for both and see which i like better. Thank you both mieum and ij . Very much appreciated.

idprism: the main question is do any of your users use iOS? If so Snikket or tigase are your only good options at the moment

Yes, two of the older relatives and one younger and more capable. I am OK with any client for them that supports opening from a link and is in the app stores.

ah siskin. yeah, that's what I would've recommended they install before snikket. snikket looks all right. i

will be testing in the next few weeks 🙂

Well, Tigase has the benefit that push notifications is working in MUCs for IOS devices, but beside that... hmmm..

idprism, it sounds like your use-case is pretty much exactly the kind of thing I'm developing Snikket for :)

ij, group push is working in Snikket now, but I'm just working on the release for that (aiming for next week)

I agree with Mattj. Snikket is a quick one-stop solution for all platforms. If you are experienced with ejabberd, you might want to stay with it, if you want something simple and prepackaged, Snikket is a good choice

MattJ, good to know 🙂

Awesome. 🙂

idprism, the Snikket app is based on Siskin, but with a few extra features and much simplification of the interface (e.g. removing many of the options that could cause problems if messed with)

now that i've had a host fail that was set up with scripts and no CaC in the past, it's going to come down to how easy it is to ansiblize/puppetize a server so i can reproduce the process in case i have another host failure

Snikket is docker-based, which should be easy to manage via ansible (I've no experience with puppet, but I assume it's just as competent)

as long as i can push configs pre-run into the container or suck them in/edit them post-run via cli, any CaC tool will do.

I like puppet better generally, but ansible seems to be more popular right now and more accessible if i happen to share the code with friends

All configuration of Snikket is via environment variables in a single config file external to the container, but I guess https://snikket.org/service/quickstart/ should answer everything (and we have a dedicated chat if you still have questions)

👍Thanks 🙂

ah my eyes. 🙂 i'll be reading the docs on github 😎

Problem with the site?

Just very bright white background. 🌓 if i happen to be running on a vm and want to avoid additional abstraction, of podman or docker can i just build on the vm using the steps in Dockerfile? Does anybody do that? Also thanks for using the -slim image. so many devs i know don't do that.

Installation without docker isn't supported, so expect to encounter more problems and have to deal with manual upgrades that way. See: https://snikket.org/faq/#q-can-i-set-up-snikket-without-docker

But some people do it anyway

Oh. the FAQ. should've started there. hah.

I'll look into adding a dark theme to the site :)

Yeah, I understand the risks and issues, and i will try it with podman first, but sometimes with so many layers of virtualization i want to escape using an extra one when i can. Thanks for heading up the project & also for the help & direction MattJ . Awesome project.

> I'll look into adding a dark theme to the site :) actually firefox could do this, a function that makes pages dark. or in cooperation with bootstrap. so that you darken everything in the browser

a plugin could also play funeral music