XMPP Service Operators - 2021-11-22

Licaon_Kter‎: xmpp:support@404.city mailto:support@404.city

moparisthebest: > Or you can just have a simple setup and accept a bit of downtime now and then I'm inclined to think that client-side failover should be a thing. Like, advancing multi-account UIs to the point of (reasonable) transparency for the user, so that they could assign one of the accounts as an explicit fallback of another, and forget about it. Probably would require extending xmpp uris, so that they can carry fallback jids

This gives the ability to distribute not only accross networks and jurisdictions, but also across operators

Cough blabber.im cough

Would be awesome, but seems more like a far goal..

Yup. In the mean time, it's probably the deal-with-it approach :))

from the perspective of whatsapp & co, these are luxury issues really

in that world, I think it's dealt with by having the phone number as identifier, meaning you can try e.g. signal on the same number when whatsapp is borked. abstracting that, the "low-tech" recommendation would probably be to include a fallback JID in a vcard which can be discovered by clients.

> the "low-tech" recommendation would probably be to include a fallback JID in a vcard which can be discovered by clients. Right, that'd be a start

_What is Quicksy..._

What time in UTC do you chat? Communication via PM is not a convenient way, since both interlocutors must be online at the same time. If it is forbidden to write to a spammer in this chat, write in the chat xmpp:en@chat.404.city?join (This is not a contact for feedback and I do not follow the messages, but in this case I will make an exception and check if there are messages from you today, as it is more convenient than waiting for a message in PM)

> Communication via PM is not a convenient way, since both interlocutors must be online at the same time. Don't you have MAM/Carbons?

jonas’, Does PM of group chats allow to send messages offline?

ohh, that kind of PM

nevermind

I was thinking direct 1:1 PMs

jonas’, I don’t know the XMPP address Licaon_Kter

404.city: it's so hard to lurk here all the time?

and you still drop messages from strangers so one cannot contact you via the 156 address?

Licaon_Kter, It doesn't matter anymore. I will write here.

Licaon_Kter, Thanks! I received a your message. This account has been banned.

Licaon_Kter, Is it more like a flood than a spam? You may have collided with Morph, this guy also damaged 404 chats. He just flooded chats with pictures. After blocking, he creates accounts on the new server and continues to flood

404.city: morph or not, not the idea, ban ips, carry on

Licaon_Kter, What chat did this incident take place in? conversations-offtopic-talk? If yes, then he said that he hates this chat

Read my PM above...again...

Not Offtopic

> Read my PM above...again... Hm. I have no new messages from you there PM

Okay, no matter, the account has been banned. Write more, but for faster blocking, you could add a contact xmpp:support@404.city to the roster and write there or tell us your contact. This is the faster way. Thanks for the abuse notice

404.city: > spammed at least the *Dino support* and *Conversations support MUCs* with hundreds of links Now you see it?

404.city: the point of this MUC is that we all join a single MUC for the entire ecosystem, not one room on each and every server ffs

I tend to disagree; this is a place where operators can communicate, and that may include the occasional "hey, who oeprates X, it's spamming" or what not, but this definitely shouldn't be a requirement for all XMPP operators otherwise you can't get spam reports.

Didn't say a requirement, just that "nicer" Also 404 comes here at the drop of a pin if they need to "defend" their server, so rather meh to say _"join our support blahblah"_ when someone else has an issue.

Well, having a JID in XEP-0157 that doesn't block non-contacts would be a good start.

> Didn't say a requirement, just that "nicer". Also 404 comes here at the drop of a pin if they need to "defend" their server, so rather meh to say _"join our support blahblah"_ when someone else has an issue. Licaon_Kter I could not translate the meaning of your words > ‎Licaon_Kter‎: Now you see it? Yes, now I noticed

404.city: it means you were here when Alex and the news@ were discussed

Licaon_Kter, This issue has not been discussed well enough because it is forbidden here to discuss it. Alex was slandered.