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  264. Licaon_Kter Heads up, log4j2 issue still lives... https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-45046
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  282. Steven Roose > MattJ - I had one of those phones, it's still in a drawer somewhere. Great keyboard for the size. mike: it was the last one with a good keyboard right? I had the t-mobile g1 and loved the keyboard. Still miss it :(
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  1109. Licaon_Kter So I did this though, just in case, ffs `zip -q -d log4j-core-*.jar org/apache/logging/log4j/core/lookup/JndiLookup.class`
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  1137. ernst.on.tour Licaon_Kter: To check for log4j ? I have to test *each* jar-file, some of them include an static version of JNDILookup.class and thats the worst part. Just a simple *unzip l file.jar | grep -i "JNDILookup.class"* will do it. unzip littleL for list content
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  1193. Licaon_Kter ernst.on.tour: that's the surgical removal
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  1233. Xanspie Just made my first XMPP instance, Ejabberd was a nightmare to try to configure, but Prosody I had working in 30 mins first time ever using it. Love it.
  1234. MattJ Welcome aboard :)
  1235. Xanspie Oh yeah as for Log4j I found a tutorial for creating a Gzip bomb for anyone who attempts to exploit it hehe
  1236. Xanspie > Welcome aboard :) Thank you :)
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  1249. rozzin > I have to test *each* jar-file, some of them include an static version of JNDILookup.class and thats the worst part. Oy--so *Java* is in the "shared library? what's that? why would you want that?" bucket? Somehow I didn't see that bus coming, which in retrospect I guess was silly of me.
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  1264. Ian Blas Is there any xmpp chat app that has a good design? signal style
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  1266. moparisthebest Wait do you want a good design or signal style?
  1267. Ian Blas I use conversations, it works fine and it's simple. But many people who recommend xmpp do not use it, there are no good apps with a modern interface
  1268. Ian Blas > Wait do you want a good design or signal style? Good designe interface
  1269. Ian Blas Something like signal but with xmpp
  1270. moparisthebest Then conversations
  1271. Ian Blas Something like signal or session but with xmpp
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  1273. Ian Blas There is nothing better than conversations ?
  1274. Ian Blas Something with better interface?
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  1278. moparisthebest In my opinion no, especially not signal :)
  1279. MattJ Can you say exactly what is wrong with the Conversations interface?
  1280. moparisthebest But as you can tell, interface is a personal preference thing, there is no universal worse or better
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  1289. Ian Blas https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/d7eaed993b6dcdfc9939a22dc861d9b9025078d3/y5hSnhF1P0cm9Iwh66e2MfpYclKmAbj85Zfafdzc/KoYI5GSUTfuv4H_z_0Dj3g.jpg
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  1291. Ian Blas Conversations
  1292. Ian Blas https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/d7eaed993b6dcdfc9939a22dc861d9b9025078d3/EQWNTMbOVK1OVdDhT63GwmPnuQ2vVSCrBQ8z1Sbh/MOvpaUc8TYeVKye9DGhz5Q.jpg
  1293. Ian Blas Telegram
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  1295. Ian Blas https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/d7eaed993b6dcdfc9939a22dc861d9b9025078d3/BjRqeIS6Fi1VKASr8ybrdxlQlOJjIJN7a2zBEL0z/5YJA6QeiQUi1txh3LvjOqw.jpg
  1296. Ian Blas Signal
  1297. Ian Blas Telegram and signal looks more modern and better than conversations
  1298. moparisthebest Can you explain how/why? To me they look far worse
  1299. moparisthebest Ton of wasted space etc
  1300. Ian Blas Conversations does not allow you to customize anything (about interfaces)
  1301. Ian Blas I love xmpp, maybe with better interfaces it can bring a lot of people
  1302. MattJ I'm very familiar with both apps' interfaces
  1303. moparisthebest Good, real users don't do that anyway
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  1305. Ian Blas > Good, real users don't do that anyway Xmpp need more network effect
  1306. Ian Blas Interfaces is important
  1307. moparisthebest Ok, and you think some interface tweaks might help this happen?
  1308. moparisthebest But can't articulate what those tweaks might be? Other than "more modern" and "like signal" ?
  1309. Ian Blas I do not want to sound like a user who complains, I just think that improving the interfaces designe can attract more users
  1310. Ian Blas > Ok, and you think some interface tweaks might help this happen? I think yes
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  1312. Ian Blas > But can't articulate what those tweaks might be? Other than "more modern" and "like signal" ? If I write the article, can we send to the conversations dev?
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  1314. moparisthebest of course
  1315. moparisthebest I don't mean to come off rude/short either, just a lot of people say things like "it looks bad" and that's not very helpful, any concrete suggestions however are helpful
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  1317. Ian Blas > I don't mean to come off rude/short either, just a lot of people say things like "it looks bad" and that's not very helpful, any concrete suggestions however are helpful Sure, i will write the article
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  1319. Ian Blas Something that would help is to be able to quote photos, videos or audios. Not design but useful
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  1322. moparisthebest I mean I can see the pictures you sent, I can't pick out why one looks better than the other
  1323. moparisthebest So being able to explain what the difference is and why one is better would be great
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  1326. Ian Blas > So being able to explain what the difference is and why one is better would be great Sure buddy, i will write a article
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  1335. Ian Blas > So being able to explain what the difference is and why one is better would be great Sure buddy, i will write the article
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  1343. rozzin Ian Blas: FYI the chatroom for Conversations is xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join
  1344. Ian Blas Oh thanks, I didn't know that
  1345. Ian Blas > Ian Blas: FYI the chatroom for Conversations is xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join Joined ;)
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