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  264. Licaon_Kter

    Heads up, log4j2 issue still lives... https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-45046

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  282. Steven Roose

    > MattJ - I had one of those phones, it's still in a drawer somewhere. Great keyboard for the size. mike: it was the last one with a good keyboard right? I had the t-mobile g1 and loved the keyboard. Still miss it :(

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  1109. Licaon_Kter

    So I did this though, just in case, ffs `zip -q -d log4j-core-*.jar org/apache/logging/log4j/core/lookup/JndiLookup.class`

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  1137. ernst.on.tour

    Licaon_Kter: To check for log4j ? I have to test *each* jar-file, some of them include an static version of JNDILookup.class and thats the worst part. Just a simple *unzip l file.jar | grep -i "JNDILookup.class"* will do it. unzip littleL for list content

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  1193. Licaon_Kter

    ernst.on.tour: that's the surgical removal

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  1233. Xanspie

    Just made my first XMPP instance, Ejabberd was a nightmare to try to configure, but Prosody I had working in 30 mins first time ever using it. Love it.

  1234. MattJ

    Welcome aboard :)

  1235. Xanspie

    Oh yeah as for Log4j I found a tutorial for creating a Gzip bomb for anyone who attempts to exploit it hehe

  1236. Xanspie

    > Welcome aboard :) Thank you :)

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  1249. rozzin

    > I have to test *each* jar-file, some of them include an static version of JNDILookup.class and thats the worst part. Oy--so *Java* is in the "shared library? what's that? why would you want that?" bucket? Somehow I didn't see that bus coming, which in retrospect I guess was silly of me.

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  1264. Ian Blas

    Is there any xmpp chat app that has a good design? signal style

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  1266. moparisthebest

    Wait do you want a good design or signal style?

  1267. Ian Blas

    I use conversations, it works fine and it's simple. But many people who recommend xmpp do not use it, there are no good apps with a modern interface

  1268. Ian Blas

    > Wait do you want a good design or signal style? Good designe interface

  1269. Ian Blas

    Something like signal but with xmpp

  1270. moparisthebest

    Then conversations

  1271. Ian Blas

    Something like signal or session but with xmpp

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  1273. Ian Blas

    There is nothing better than conversations ?

  1274. Ian Blas

    Something with better interface?

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  1278. moparisthebest

    In my opinion no, especially not signal :)

  1279. MattJ

    Can you say exactly what is wrong with the Conversations interface?

  1280. moparisthebest

    But as you can tell, interface is a personal preference thing, there is no universal worse or better

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  1289. Ian Blas

    https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/d7eaed993b6dcdfc9939a22dc861d9b9025078d3/y5hSnhF1P0cm9Iwh66e2MfpYclKmAbj85Zfafdzc/KoYI5GSUTfuv4H_z_0Dj3g.jpg

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  1291. Ian Blas

    Conversations

  1292. Ian Blas

    https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/d7eaed993b6dcdfc9939a22dc861d9b9025078d3/EQWNTMbOVK1OVdDhT63GwmPnuQ2vVSCrBQ8z1Sbh/MOvpaUc8TYeVKye9DGhz5Q.jpg

  1293. Ian Blas

    Telegram

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  1295. Ian Blas

    https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/d7eaed993b6dcdfc9939a22dc861d9b9025078d3/BjRqeIS6Fi1VKASr8ybrdxlQlOJjIJN7a2zBEL0z/5YJA6QeiQUi1txh3LvjOqw.jpg

  1296. Ian Blas

    Signal

  1297. Ian Blas

    Telegram and signal looks more modern and better than conversations

  1298. moparisthebest

    Can you explain how/why? To me they look far worse

  1299. moparisthebest

    Ton of wasted space etc

  1300. Ian Blas

    Conversations does not allow you to customize anything (about interfaces)

  1301. Ian Blas

    I love xmpp, maybe with better interfaces it can bring a lot of people

  1302. MattJ

    I'm very familiar with both apps' interfaces

  1303. moparisthebest

    Good, real users don't do that anyway

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  1305. Ian Blas

    > Good, real users don't do that anyway Xmpp need more network effect

  1306. Ian Blas

    Interfaces is important

  1307. moparisthebest

    Ok, and you think some interface tweaks might help this happen?

  1308. moparisthebest

    But can't articulate what those tweaks might be? Other than "more modern" and "like signal" ?

  1309. Ian Blas

    I do not want to sound like a user who complains, I just think that improving the interfaces designe can attract more users

  1310. Ian Blas

    > Ok, and you think some interface tweaks might help this happen? I think yes

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  1312. Ian Blas

    > But can't articulate what those tweaks might be? Other than "more modern" and "like signal" ? If I write the article, can we send to the conversations dev?

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  1314. moparisthebest

    of course

  1315. moparisthebest

    I don't mean to come off rude/short either, just a lot of people say things like "it looks bad" and that's not very helpful, any concrete suggestions however are helpful

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  1317. Ian Blas

    > I don't mean to come off rude/short either, just a lot of people say things like "it looks bad" and that's not very helpful, any concrete suggestions however are helpful Sure, i will write the article

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  1319. Ian Blas

    Something that would help is to be able to quote photos, videos or audios. Not design but useful

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  1322. moparisthebest

    I mean I can see the pictures you sent, I can't pick out why one looks better than the other

  1323. moparisthebest

    So being able to explain what the difference is and why one is better would be great

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  1326. Ian Blas

    > So being able to explain what the difference is and why one is better would be great Sure buddy, i will write a article

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  1335. Ian Blas

    > So being able to explain what the difference is and why one is better would be great Sure buddy, i will write the article

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  1343. rozzin

    Ian Blas: FYI the chatroom for Conversations is xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join

  1344. Ian Blas

    Oh thanks, I didn't know that

  1345. Ian Blas

    > Ian Blas: FYI the chatroom for Conversations is xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join Joined ;)

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