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JRHaigh 18:37:23
Martin, please can you check conference.Jabber.Vikings.net for correctness?
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JRHaigh 18:38:30
He apparently fixed it but that it may take some hours for the DNS changes to propagate.
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JRHaigh 18:42:13
I don't mind waiting but it'll be annoying to wait indefinitely and eventually find that it's still not quite right, and then have to wait some more hours for a second DNS propagation.
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Sam 18:45:42
Whenever I make DNS changes I initially set a very low TTL for this reason. That way if I'm wrong I can change it again and it doesn't take long; after I verify that it works I bump the TTL back up to a day or whatever longer one I was using.
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(the first change still takes a while, of course, but if I need subsequent ones it's not as frustrating)
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moparisthebest 18:50:51
That's always my plan but then I never go back and bump them up :)
moparisthebest 18:51:06
So all my TTLs are forever 5 minutes
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JRHaigh 18:53:22
Sam: Thanks. I've done that myself for nonXMPP stuff before, and I've passed on the suggestion just now to my friend running the XMPP server. :-)
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moparisthebest: Lol!
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Martin 19:09:00
JRHaigh: > Martin, please can you check conference.Jabber.Vikings.net for correctness? Sorry, I'm AFK, but I guess others can also check.
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ernst.on.tour 19:33:57
JRHaigh: How will somebody check a non completly propagated DNS-change ? Martin is not the wizzard of Oz, he had just to wait like you 😉
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rozzin 19:48:20
ernst.on.tour: one of us who knows what it should look like could dig the records out of the master NS directly and tell him if he made any obvious mistakes? 😜
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JRHaigh 19:56:09
rozzin: I've used dig before on my own stuff, but anyway, he sent me them. Problem is, I don't know what the XMPP records are meant to be to make it work.
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I don't think there's anything sensitive in sharing these records he sent me, which should be on their way to public servers anyway... > _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.jabber.vikings.net. 86400 IN SRV 0 1 5269 jabber.vikings.net > _xmpp-client._tcp.jabber.vikings.net. 86311 IN SRV 0 0 5222 jabber.vikings.net > is what I currently have If he gets that wrong, though, it'll take another day to propagate the fix. :-/
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JRHaigh 20:03:19
Aside from that, all I know is that it still doesn't work.
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mjk 20:44:25
> $ telnet jabber.vikings.net 5269 > Trying 185.199.141.40... > Connected to 185.199.141.40. Worksforme
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So, either it's not propagated to you yet, or there are other things wrong
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Should be: ``` dig @ns1.foo.bar SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.foo.bar +short 10 0 5269 conference.foo.bar ``` Is: ``` dig @ns1.vikings.net SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.jabber.vikings.net +short 0 1 5269 jabber.vikings.net ``` ``` dig @ns1.vikings.net jabber.vikings.net +short 185.199.141.40 dig @ns1.vikings.net conference.jabber.vikings.net +short jabber.vikings.net 185.199.141.40 ``` Seems to be allright....
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moparisthebest 20:56:35
you can't assume the name server for foo.bar is ns1.foo.bar though, you need to `dig ns foo.bar` to find out it's name servers
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ernst.on.tour 21:14:59
Yeah, but *my* foo.bar told me authorative ns is name1 for foo.bar Vikings.net told me ns1.vikings.net dns-admin.vikings.net 😉
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Menel 21:15:37
JRHaigh: works now for me, didnt test before, but xmpp connected there
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JRHaigh 21:17:45
Hmm, but I still get "delivery failed". :-/
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Menel 21:24:57
For conference.Jabber.Vikings.net srv: xmpp-server jabber.vikings.net. 5269 Priority: 0 Weight: 1 IP: 185.199.141.40 Connection: [OK] StartTLS: [OK] Certificate: [OK] And xmpp ping works too..
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JRHaigh 21:25:34
Btw., he did drop the TTL. Just been told he set it to 3600.
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JRHaigh 21:25:59
I'll try a different WAN...
jonas’ 21:26:05
that's good for the *next* time
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JRHaigh 21:26:16
Yep. :-)
jonas’ 21:26:20
though 3600 is still quite a lot
JRHaigh 21:26:33
DNS is a pain. :-/
jonas’ 21:26:47
all a matter of training
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JRHaigh 21:26:50
~~3hrs.~~ ✎
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JRHaigh 21:28:25
1 hour. ✏
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JRHaigh 21:35:53
Hooray!!! :-D It's working!!! Thank you very much! :-D
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JRHaigh 21:36:38
> I'll try a different WAN... Changing WAN, rebooting, etc. didn't fix it, though; I had to completely close the room and open it again from bookmarks.
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JRHaigh 21:38:35
I don't know what the close + reopen had to do with DNS, or why a reboot didn't fix that instead, but there we go, that's what it was stuck on, it seemed.
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JRHaigh 22:03:36
That was for my spare account that I was using to test. For the other affected contact (the one that originally ran into this interservice problem), I just tried resending the invite and instantly he appeared as "(Online)"! :-D
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JRHaigh 22:12:37
So rather than retrying sending to the private MUC with my Disroot.org account (which continued to fail even after the problem was fixed), I should have instead kept resending invite from my Vikings.net account to my Disroot.org account until the latter had a notification or appeared online in the private group chat. It would have probably indicated success a few hours sooner, I realise in hindsight. :-) ✎
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JRHaigh 22:13:41
So rather than retrying sending to the private MUC on conference.Jabber.Vikings.net with my Disroot.org account (which continued to fail even after the problem was fixed), I should have instead kept resending invite from my Vikings.net account to my Disroot.org account until the latter had a notification or appeared online in the private group chat. It would have probably indicated success a few hours sooner, I realise in hindsight. :-) ✏
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JRHaigh 22:14:57
So rather than retrying sending from my Disroot.org account to the private MUC on conference.Jabber.Vikings.net (which continued to fail even after the problem was fixed), I should have instead kept resending invite from my Vikings.net account to my Disroot.org account until the latter had a notification or appeared online in the private group chat. It would have probably indicated success a few hours sooner, I realise in hindsight. :-) ✏
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JRHaigh 22:16:45
> all a matter of training Yep, I've definitely learnt quite a bit about MUCs in the past couple of days! :-)
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JRHaigh 22:17:27
Thank you all very much for your help. :-)
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