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  2512. JRHaigh Martin, please can you check conference.Jabber.Vikings.net for correctness?
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  2516. JRHaigh He apparently fixed it but that it may take some hours for the DNS changes to propagate.
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  2531. JRHaigh I don't mind waiting but it'll be annoying to wait indefinitely and eventually find that it's still not quite right, and then have to wait some more hours for a second DNS propagation.
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  2548. Sam Whenever I make DNS changes I initially set a very low TTL for this reason. That way if I'm wrong I can change it again and it doesn't take long; after I verify that it works I bump the TTL back up to a day or whatever longer one I was using.
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  2552. Sam (the first change still takes a while, of course, but if I need subsequent ones it's not as frustrating)
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  2574. moparisthebest That's always my plan but then I never go back and bump them up :)
  2575. moparisthebest So all my TTLs are forever 5 minutes
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  2585. JRHaigh Sam: Thanks. I've done that myself for nonXMPP stuff before, and I've passed on the suggestion just now to my friend running the XMPP server. :-)
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  2593. JRHaigh moparisthebest: Lol!
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  2669. Martin JRHaigh: > Martin, please can you check conference.Jabber.Vikings.net for correctness? Sorry, I'm AFK, but I guess others can also check.
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  2792. ernst.on.tour JRHaigh: How will somebody check a non completly propagated DNS-change ? Martin is not the wizzard of Oz, he had just to wait like you 😉
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  2843. rozzin ernst.on.tour: one of us who knows what it should look like could dig the records out of the master NS directly and tell him if he made any obvious mistakes? 😜
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  2878. JRHaigh rozzin: I've used dig before on my own stuff, but anyway, he sent me them. Problem is, I don't know what the XMPP records are meant to be to make it work.
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  2906. JRHaigh I don't think there's anything sensitive in sharing these records he sent me, which should be on their way to public servers anyway... > _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.jabber.vikings.net. 86400 IN SRV 0 1 5269 jabber.vikings.net > _xmpp-client._tcp.jabber.vikings.net. 86311 IN SRV 0 0 5222 jabber.vikings.net > is what I currently have If he gets that wrong, though, it'll take another day to propagate the fix. :-/
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  2918. JRHaigh Aside from that, all I know is that it still doesn't work.
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  3172. mjk > $ telnet jabber.vikings.net 5269 > Trying 185.199.141.40... > Connected to 185.199.141.40. Worksforme
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  3176. mjk So, either it's not propagated to you yet, or there are other things wrong
  3177. ernst.on.tour Should be: ``` dig @ns1.foo.bar SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.foo.bar +short 10 0 5269 conference.foo.bar ``` Is: ``` dig @ns1.vikings.net SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.jabber.vikings.net +short 0 1 5269 jabber.vikings.net ``` ``` dig @ns1.vikings.net jabber.vikings.net +short 185.199.141.40 dig @ns1.vikings.net conference.jabber.vikings.net +short jabber.vikings.net 185.199.141.40 ``` Seems to be allright....
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  3222. moparisthebest you can't assume the name server for foo.bar is ns1.foo.bar though, you need to `dig ns foo.bar` to find out it's name servers
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  3299. ernst.on.tour Yeah, but *my* foo.bar told me authorative ns is name1 for foo.bar Vikings.net told me ns1.vikings.net dns-admin.vikings.net 😉
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  3301. Menel JRHaigh: works now for me, didnt test before, but xmpp connected there
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  3310. JRHaigh Hmm, but I still get "delivery failed". :-/
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  3339. Menel For conference.Jabber.Vikings.net srv: xmpp-server jabber.vikings.net. 5269 Priority: 0 Weight: 1 IP: 185.199.141.40 Connection: [OK] StartTLS: [OK] Certificate: [OK] And xmpp ping works too..
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  3347. JRHaigh Btw., he did drop the TTL. Just been told he set it to 3600.
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  3349. JRHaigh I'll try a different WAN...
  3350. jonas’ that's good for the *next* time
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  3353. JRHaigh Yep. :-)
  3354. jonas’ though 3600 is still quite a lot
  3355. JRHaigh DNS is a pain. :-/
  3356. jonas’ all a matter of training
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  3358. JRHaigh 3hrs.
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  3363. JRHaigh 1 hour.
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  3390. JRHaigh Hooray!!! :-D It's working!!! Thank you very much! :-D
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  3393. JRHaigh > I'll try a different WAN... Changing WAN, rebooting, etc. didn't fix it, though; I had to completely close the room and open it again from bookmarks.
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  3399. JRHaigh I don't know what the close + reopen had to do with DNS, or why a reboot didn't fix that instead, but there we go, that's what it was stuck on, it seemed.
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  3514. JRHaigh That was for my spare account that I was using to test. For the other affected contact (the one that originally ran into this interservice problem), I just tried resending the invite and instantly he appeared as "(Online)"! :-D
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  3555. JRHaigh So rather than retrying sending to the private MUC with my Disroot.org account (which continued to fail even after the problem was fixed), I should have instead kept resending invite from my Vikings.net account to my Disroot.org account until the latter had a notification or appeared online in the private group chat. It would have probably indicated success a few hours sooner, I realise in hindsight. :-)
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  3560. JRHaigh So rather than retrying sending to the private MUC on conference.Jabber.Vikings.net with my Disroot.org account (which continued to fail even after the problem was fixed), I should have instead kept resending invite from my Vikings.net account to my Disroot.org account until the latter had a notification or appeared online in the private group chat. It would have probably indicated success a few hours sooner, I realise in hindsight. :-)
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  3573. JRHaigh So rather than retrying sending from my Disroot.org account to the private MUC on conference.Jabber.Vikings.net (which continued to fail even after the problem was fixed), I should have instead kept resending invite from my Vikings.net account to my Disroot.org account until the latter had a notification or appeared online in the private group chat. It would have probably indicated success a few hours sooner, I realise in hindsight. :-)
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  3579. JRHaigh > all a matter of training Yep, I've definitely learnt quite a bit about MUCs in the past couple of days! :-)
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  3582. JRHaigh Thank you all very much for your help. :-)
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