XMPP Service Operators - 2022-01-05

phew, I'd already forgotten what a toxic person Xabber main developer is

and I thought I got used to kernel developers lingo on LKML

ru_maniac: umm? Topic?

I've dug out an old issue from Xabber's github, one re: OMEMO support

the one where he basically said "screw audience if they cannot pay me" and asked to provide him with 1 BTC worth of bounty for him to even consider implementing it

and there were a lot of, let's say, harsh words thrown out from his side well, Xabber went and died, all is well, and I've mentioned this openly on Twitter, listing as an example of toxic behavior around open-source communities

little did I knew, dude decided to start a flame thread) over his own words from 2017-2019

IIRC, btw, people offered some PR's for him back in the day, ready to go i've no hard quotes though, he cleaned up comments in the issue quite extensively

I mean, he could've opted out to usual OSS policy: "if you want feature we don't want to code, code it yourself, and if your code is good enough, we'll merge it" -- or straight up said "thanks, i won't implement or merge this in my app" -- both are valid options, IMO

instead, he opted out for #3 -- humiliate people based on their wealth, calling them "junkies" along the way (allegedly, some drug users in Russia used Xabber to access illegal marketplaces -- hence the name-calling)

Ah, the 'drug addicts and cryptowhores' issue. 😂

Wow, is this already over 4 years old? ✏

yep honestly, I'm baffled that he decided to start a screaming match with me over this -- I've avoided on purpose mentioning him by name or Twitter handle, instead only mentioning the app itself

naturally, he replied from Xabber's account, and the rough translation would be: "What a little stupid fool. You should treat open-source software as a gift and be grateful. Mugs like you tend to think that if they've downloaded the app, I must lick their boots, or I won't have good business"

which was followed by "The thing with OMEMO went like this: you learn to walk before you run. XMPP for a long time was unable to support sending messages reliably, still is -- and now some retards go and ask for OMEMO, stat"

I mean, I can see how cheerful and not bitter at all he is

(translations are a bit cleaned up, if it's required -- I can back them up with links to original posts, albeit in Russian)

ru_maniac: this is not the place here for such a discussion

my apologies I've mentioned some server-related questions to the person in question as well, hence the conference choice

no problem, but mixing facts with personal judgments, so there's probably only a bad outcome for this discussion ;-)

croax, appreciate it