XMPP Service Operators - 2022-01-29

Is everything alright with https://stats.jabberfr.org? I see "If you're seeing this Grafana has failed to load its application files". I do have js enabled in Firefox and it was working in the past, so looks to be a server issue

Incidentally, does it have user language or country stats? Or is it too dominated by fr to care? ✏

error: Partition / too full: 105808 blocks needed, 0 blocks free error: failed to commit transaction (not enough free disk space)

Too much stats? :D

11 GiB out of 18 total are from prometheus.

Who will monitor the monitoring? :D

Heh

mjk, alright, it’s back.

And no, we don’t keep stats about xml:lang or IPs, the former might be interesting though.

If you feel like making a mod_measure_message_language for Prosody, we could load it.

Thanks for noticing, the stats had been broken since the 16th of January and nobody noticed before you. :(

> alright, it’s back. It is, thank you!

I wanted some fair-ish statistics on the dominant languages used by humans on xmpp, but, short of analyzing words flowing into public mucs, only geoip country would be viable, I guess. (Who sets xml:lang really?)

I think gajim sets the lang.

poezio too.

Every software knows at least the language of the user’s UI.

Gajim even has the ability to set it per JID, in order to do spell checking correctly.

Maybe I should add that to poezio too. ^^

> Who sets xml:lang really? I guess this sorta questions would require such a measurement module. Yay, recursion

I actually need this for spellchecking purposes as well (which dics to bundle by default with Dino installer for windows)

So, assuming clients correctly reflect spellchecker or at least UI language in xml:lang, it'd suffice to gather xml:lang stats indeed

But for now I'll just fall back to my head canon as to which langs are most popular

Chinese, Spanish…

On xmpp!

I don't believe a significant portion of Chinese use xmpp :))

In XMPP english, german and french are most popular for regular users and russian for spam (own experience, no big data ^^).

Martin: I figured the same!

The spam at least should be orthographically written

But there seem to be some "real people" from ☭ in the Conversations MUC considering the stray `)` in messages. ✏

(J/k, Russian is pretty high here: <https://search.jabber.network/stats>)

But usually if I see cyrillic characters it's spam.

> Russian 46 319 Doesn't look "pretty high".

Well, it's 5th by user numbers

German is listed thrice, should be used very much!

And I am not even listed as german, as conversations and profanity set xml:lang to en afaik.

So the high number for english is a lie! :)

It is, but in reality it's pretty popular/populous anyway

Especially en_US, being closest to international

mjk, Martin, mind that that language statistic is based on room language information, *not* on individuals.

Yup, am aware

jonas’: But what's the deal with German being listed 3 times, each with different stats? :)

de_{AT,CH,DE}

or so

maybe de, de_DE, de_AT or so

I c, suspected something locale-specific

Would be good to specify the locales, at least in the page's code

would be better to merge them :)

Or that, idk, ianal(inguist)

Huh—"10% of XMPP users use Pidgin" is higher than I had expected at this point.

https://xep-0363.xmpp.hackerposse.com:5443/upload/23963ea3bfb238743ef238bd0d65bed8f777298d/JbDdRbHDJh17LbLysrwKecTE8dhWc03odHJMLH74/oayvavGfQBeQ0nGQMayq_w.jpg

I wonder what that signifies.

rozzin, our service has been running since 2003, you will get very different client repartition on other servers.

But also, yes, Pidgin is sadly still popular.

Link Mauve: I was thinking "maybe you have a large number of old people newly getting into XMPP or something?"

Link Mauve: or maybe you have a lot of very-long-term users who still haven't found out what they're missing by not having Carbons etc.

Probably the latter.

Nvm ✏

Licaon_Kter, sorry, I haven’t been able to look at what was wrong in biboumi so far, it was working from a cursory test from my account.

Hi, anyone familiar with slixmpp?

Jonny: xmpp:slixmpp@muc.poez.io?join I suppose some that are there might be familiar with it.

I'm trying to retrieve the list of registered user's from a server. I found this class: https://github.com/poezio/slixmpp/blob/e56930e0a12b8b5e5117474bd919550e5c6aa930/slixmpp/plugins/xep_0133.py and try to Call await self['xep_0133'].get_registered_users_num(jid=target) (where target holds the xmpp domain). but I don't know what to pass for the 'session' parameter

Menel: thx