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Hi. At the risk of ruining own nickname... I have a sudden problem sending offline messages to a contact at creep.im, is the admin around? Conversations reports:
> Your contact offline message queue is full. The message has been discarded.
even though I've sent no more than a single message since they last been online.
Possibly related is that the error appeared after a period of silently being unable to send the message at all: Conversations shown the status of "sending..." since yesterday.
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Could it be that the client tried to re-send too many times, without the server responding but silently putting the message into the queue?
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or maybe they have been a victim of a spam attack and their queue is now full until they log in, to be drowned in spam
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jonas’: Hmmm, possible, I guess, but unlikely: I don't think they published their address anywhere, as I suspect they use it only for contacting me :)
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I've pinged the admin directly just in case ✎
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I've pinged the admin directly just in case they don't come here often ✏
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It could also happen if offline messages are disabled, or the server disk is full, or the database is broken, or...
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Licaon_Kter: thanks a bunch!
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Offline messages worked before, and it is unlikely the contact fiddled with archival settings, so seems more of a server-side issue
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Oh, and they do use Pidgin btw. Yeah. I'm just assuming it shouldn't be able to break offline queue on the server
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does pidgin to mam? ✎
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lurker: first of all, ask them ta upgrade to a newer than 2018 client like Gajim or Dino :)
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Menel: you mean, can it into MAM? I don't think so
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Licaon_Kter: I tried... Will try more, though
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Daaamittttt
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
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:))
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Can pidgin into mam?, yeah :) ✏
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Now I have to _catch_ them online, unless this is fixable admin-side
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Hey! Pidgin was updated last september. Not sure it helps tho
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mjk: why is everyone repeating that nonesense. No... The xmpp support of Pidgin is pre 2018 at its best. Random .x.x.x fixups don't matter.
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Licaon_Kter: ahhh, I see. So yea, doesn't help definitely
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Martin: the dino-win room seems to be down, perhaps the whole server is :)
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Huh, if the server is down I couldn't read here.
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mjk: I see you joined there…
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Martin: those are my ghosts :))
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Neither of my two accounts can connect (don't see the participants list, for example)
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Oh, rejoined, and now it works
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Hmm.
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You're using creep.im?
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One of the two, yes, but the other couldn't join either
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Looks like their IPv4 is broken. Maybe that's causing issues (although my IPv6 is working)…
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(With the mjk_ nickname)
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Martin: of creep.im?
I have a friend who uses it
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Maybe thats why he isnot able to connect the last few days
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MSavoritias (she,they): yes
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Creep does seem to have issues recently, but strange that I couldn't join from another server
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> xmpp-dns -ct creep.im
> xmpp-client creep.im. 5222
> Priority: 10 Weight: 0
> IP: 54.36.182.250
> Connection: [Not OK]
> dial tcp4 54.36.182.250:5222: i/o timeout
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> xmpps-client creep.im. 443
> Priority: 10 Weight: 0
> IP: 54.36.182.250
> Connection: [OK]
> StartTLS: [Not OK]
> Received EOF during handshake.
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Hmm, they don't even have v6.
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mjk: I see only one of your accounts in dino-win. What server is the other one using?
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xmpp.net also fails to connect to creep.im: https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=creep.im&type=client
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I feel connected though
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Weird. Maybe it just doesn't want new connections. ^^
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naw, I purposely reconnected. weird stuff
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BTW, xmpp-server and xmpps-server at the same port looks wrong too:
> xmpp-dns -s creep.im
> xmpp-server creep.im. 5269
> Priority: 10 Weight: 0
>
> xmpps-server creep.im. 5269
> Priority: 10 Weight: 0
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Why? Hopefully they multiplex there...
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Same priority seems wrong though
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You do weird things to do starttls and direct tls on the same port? o.O
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I think it's more probably a wrong record.
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> xmpps-server creep.im. 5269
> Priority: 10 Weight: 0
> IP: 54.36.182.250
> Connection: [OK]
> TLS: [Not OK]
> tls: first record does not look like a TLS handshak
17:52:34 Martin
Lost one `e` in the copypasta… :(
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That's not weird it's basically recommended, I have https, xmpps, XMPP, imaps, smtps, dot and more all on port 443
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still finds it weird.
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Why would you do such things on a server port?
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https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/XEP-0368
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I can understand this on client ports as people run all sort of weird firewalls.
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Martin: so you can still connect to all your services from crappy networks
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Oh right s2s, but there no reason not to
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Why make it complicated if there is no need to?
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Which is more complicated
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You already have a multiplexer listening on a port, use it
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Also I don't think your theory that this is intentional doesn't make sense as they put xmpp-server and xmpps-server on 5269.
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So if they want their server reachable from crappy servers in the airport wifi they'd put it on 443 or something usually open. :)
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Right I agree it doesn't make sense in this case, people do it for the green check though :'(
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^^
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18:16:22 Licaon_Kter
https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/VWV5CMFsGu2leUpEWruwJBleR1jd4WNXUehku13R/HA_Y2l4cTbSegFE2m8N1Qg.jpg
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I've literally talked with them last week...wtf
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18:19:32 Martin
This module… 🙄
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That doesn't look promising :D
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Oh wow my message worked
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Here, I mean
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Just felt like a miracle, sorry for spam
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do anyone know the status of xmpp.net?
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Poor
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does someone plan a replacement?
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Yes https://xmpp.net/preview/ ✎
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thank you
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is xsf behind that site?
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20:19:52 jonas’
not more or less than behind xmpp.net (which is "not that much", actually)
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it happens to run on XSF infrastructure
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I see, thanks jonas
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Yes! ✏
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