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  953. lurker

    Hi. At the risk of ruining own nickname... I have a sudden problem sending offline messages to a contact at creep.im, is the admin around? Conversations reports: > Your contact offline message queue is full. The message has been discarded. even though I've sent no more than a single message since they last been online. Possibly related is that the error appeared after a period of silently being unable to send the message at all: Conversations shown the status of "sending..." since yesterday.

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  960. lurker

    Could it be that the client tried to re-send too many times, without the server responding but silently putting the message into the queue?

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  962. jonas’

    or maybe they have been a victim of a spam attack and their queue is now full until they log in, to be drowned in spam

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  966. lurker

    jonas’: Hmmm, possible, I guess, but unlikely: I don't think they published their address anywhere, as I suspect they use it only for contacting me :)

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  968. Licaon_Kter

    I've pinged the admin directly just in case

  969. Licaon_Kter

    I've pinged the admin directly just in case they don't come here often

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  972. MattJ

    It could also happen if offline messages are disabled, or the server disk is full, or the database is broken, or...

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  975. lurker

    Licaon_Kter: thanks a bunch!

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  977. lurker

    Offline messages worked before, and it is unlikely the contact fiddled with archival settings, so seems more of a server-side issue

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  980. lurker

    Oh, and they do use Pidgin btw. Yeah. I'm just assuming it shouldn't be able to break offline queue on the server

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  984. Menel

    does pidgin to mam?

  985. Licaon_Kter

    lurker: first of all, ask them ta upgrade to a newer than 2018 client like Gajim or Dino :)

  986. lurker

    Menel: you mean, can it into MAM? I don't think so

  987. lurker

    Licaon_Kter: I tried... Will try more, though

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  989. Licaon_Kter

    Daaamittttt (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

  990. Licaon_Kter

    :))

  991. Menel

    Can pidgin into mam?, yeah :)

  992. lurker

    Now I have to _catch_ them online, unless this is fixable admin-side

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  999. mjk

    Hey! Pidgin was updated last september. Not sure it helps tho

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  1003. Licaon_Kter

    mjk: why is everyone repeating that nonesense. No... The xmpp support of Pidgin is pre 2018 at its best. Random .x.x.x fixups don't matter.

  1004. mjk

    Licaon_Kter: ahhh, I see. So yea, doesn't help definitely

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  1845. mjk

    Martin: the dino-win room seems to be down, perhaps the whole server is :)

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  1858. Martin

    Huh, if the server is down I couldn't read here.

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  1861. Martin

    mjk: I see you joined there…

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  1866. mjk

    Martin: those are my ghosts :))

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  1873. mjk

    Neither of my two accounts can connect (don't see the participants list, for example)

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  1877. mjk

    Oh, rejoined, and now it works

  1878. Martin

    Hmm.

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  1885. Martin

    You're using creep.im?

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  1888. mjk

    One of the two, yes, but the other couldn't join either

  1889. Martin

    Looks like their IPv4 is broken. Maybe that's causing issues (although my IPv6 is working)…

  1890. mjk

    (With the mjk_ nickname)

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  1893. MSavoritias (she,they)

    Martin: of creep.im? I have a friend who uses it

  1894. MSavoritias (she,they)

    Maybe thats why he isnot able to connect the last few days

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  1897. Martin

    MSavoritias (she,they): yes

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  1902. mjk

    Creep does seem to have issues recently, but strange that I couldn't join from another server

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  1904. Martin

    > xmpp-dns -ct creep.im > xmpp-client creep.im. 5222 > Priority: 10 Weight: 0 > IP: 54.36.182.250 > Connection: [Not OK] > dial tcp4 54.36.182.250:5222: i/o timeout > > xmpps-client creep.im. 443 > Priority: 10 Weight: 0 > IP: 54.36.182.250 > Connection: [OK] > StartTLS: [Not OK] > Received EOF during handshake.

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  1908. Martin

    Hmm, they don't even have v6.

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  1911. Martin

    mjk: I see only one of your accounts in dino-win. What server is the other one using?

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  1926. Martin

    xmpp.net also fails to connect to creep.im: https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=creep.im&type=client

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  1934. mjk

    I feel connected though

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  1937. Martin

    Weird. Maybe it just doesn't want new connections. ^^

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  1956. mjk

    naw, I purposely reconnected. weird stuff

  1957. Martin

    BTW, xmpp-server and xmpps-server at the same port looks wrong too: > xmpp-dns -s creep.im > xmpp-server creep.im. 5269 > Priority: 10 Weight: 0 > > xmpps-server creep.im. 5269 > Priority: 10 Weight: 0

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  1962. moparisthebest

    Why? Hopefully they multiplex there...

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  1966. moparisthebest

    Same priority seems wrong though

  1967. Martin

    You do weird things to do starttls and direct tls on the same port? o.O

  1968. Martin

    I think it's more probably a wrong record.

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  1972. Martin

    > xmpps-server creep.im. 5269 > Priority: 10 Weight: 0 > IP: 54.36.182.250 > Connection: [OK] > TLS: [Not OK] > tls: first record does not look like a TLS handshak

  1973. Martin

    Lost one `e` in the copypasta… :(

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  1975. moparisthebest

    That's not weird it's basically recommended, I have https, xmpps, XMPP, imaps, smtps, dot and more all on port 443

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  1978. Martin still finds it weird.

  1979. Martin

    Why would you do such things on a server port?

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  1983. moparisthebest

    https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/XEP-0368

  1984. Martin

    I can understand this on client ports as people run all sort of weird firewalls.

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  1986. moparisthebest

    Martin: so you can still connect to all your services from crappy networks

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  1989. moparisthebest

    Oh right s2s, but there no reason not to

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  1991. Martin

    Why make it complicated if there is no need to?

  1992. moparisthebest

    Which is more complicated

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  1995. moparisthebest

    You already have a multiplexer listening on a port, use it

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  1998. Martin

    Also I don't think your theory that this is intentional doesn't make sense as they put xmpp-server and xmpps-server on 5269.

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  2001. Martin

    So if they want their server reachable from crappy servers in the airport wifi they'd put it on 443 or something usually open. :)

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  2004. moparisthebest

    Right I agree it doesn't make sense in this case, people do it for the green check though :'(

  2005. Martin

    ^^

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  2064. Licaon_Kter

    https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/VWV5CMFsGu2leUpEWruwJBleR1jd4WNXUehku13R/HA_Y2l4cTbSegFE2m8N1Qg.jpg

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  2069. Licaon_Kter

    I've literally talked with them last week...wtf

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  2076. Martin

    This module… 🙄

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  2102. lurker

    That doesn't look promising :D

  2103. lurker

    Oh wow my message worked

  2104. lurker

    Here, I mean

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  2109. lurker

    Just felt like a miracle, sorry for spam

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  2455. rq77

    do anyone know the status of xmpp.net?

  2456. moparisthebest

    Poor

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  2459. rq77

    does someone plan a replacement?

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  2461. moparisthebest

    Yes https://xmpp.net/preview/

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  2465. rq77

    thank you

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  2475. rq77

    is xsf behind that site?

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  2478. jonas’

    not more or less than behind xmpp.net (which is "not that much", actually)

  2479. jonas’

    it happens to run on XSF infrastructure

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  2482. rq77

    I see, thanks jonas

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  2486. moparisthebest

    Yes!

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