> Establishing a secure connection from mdosch.de to muc.poez.io failed. Certificate hash: 0206e623a7a8b86bdc6be15f3fd481ac5903a4b387f0c390dc47aac228688d48. Error with certificate 0: certificate has expired.
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Maranda
👮👮👮
Maranda
Our friendly neighbor cert officer
Martin
😁
Martin
Just put all your xmpp services on o.j.n and I have a quiet time. 😃
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croax, Licaon_Kter: You can use the `validationmethods` CAA parameter to limit allowed validation methods
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Example `letsencrypt.org; validationmethods=dns-01`
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List of all methods?
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> List of all methods?
Licaon_Kter: what do you mean? What are the allowed methods?
Licaon_Kter
Yes...so dns-01 and?
croax
Licaon_Kter: seems like RFC only defines issue, issuewild, iodef
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8659.html
There's an extension for this only param in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8657#section-4
croax
Which refers to existing methods https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8555#section-9.7.8
http-01 | dns
dns-01 | dns
tls-sni-01 | RESED
tls-sni-02 RESERVED
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Licaon_Kter: `http-01`, `dns-01` and `tls-alpn-01` for Let's Encrypt.
Licaon_Kter
So acme.sh static method is which exactly?
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Licaon_Kter: The `.well-known`?
croax
Licaon_Kter: acme.sh is probably http-01 as running a standalone webserver
croax
dns-01 need access to write a TXT in targeted zone, more complex set-up.✎
croax
dns-01 need access to write a TXT in targeted DNS zone, more complex set-up. ✏
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mimi89999: no, my bad, not static, https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh/wiki/Stateless-Mode
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Still .well-known, so http-01, no?
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I guess, right
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Reading it, it might be already protected from this attack since they can't use the account to generate the new certs?
croax
Licaon_Kter: just register another account. You can't block anything with registration on LE.
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Yeah, I think a domain isn't bound to an ascount, nor to an email address✎
mjk
Yeah, I think a domain isn't bound to an account, nor to an email address ✏
Licaon_Kter
Oh ffs
mjk
I had to create new accounts multiple times for my domain, although I think I used the same email...
Licaon_Kter
Yes, I know
So
> Example `letsencrypt.org; validationmethods=http-01`
...is useless
mjk
As an attack mitigation, seems like it
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What would that mitigate against?
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But limiting validation methods to dns might protect against BGP hijacking
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Still a very unlikely attack, but possible. Was that the first time BGP was used to obtain a TLS cert?
Licaon_Kter
> What would that mitigate against?
This
> But limiting validation methods to dns might protect against BGP hijacking
;)
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Oh wait, it's about placing restrictions _into dns_. So if you had dnssec on your domain, you could forbid certain validation methods
Including forbidding cert issuance entirely, probably ;) ✏
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dns-01 method: so you need to provide write access token to the DNS zone from the host which runs certbot.
The cure is worse that the disease, no?✎
croax
dns-01 method: so you need to provide a write access token to the DNS zone from the host which runs certbot.
The cure is worse that the disease, no? ✏
jonas’
a good DNS provider will let you restric that token to only have write access to the _acme-challenge TXT record
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(and you might be able to leverage a CNAME to help you with that)
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jonas’: thanks. Searching if this is possible here.
jonas’
croax, if it only allows you to restrict to a sub-zone, e.g. foo.example.com, but without restricting record type, I'd suggest to go with a _acme-challenge.domain.example CNAME _acme-challenge.foo.domain.example and let the token manage foo.domain.example
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jonas’: Great, good advice.
I had a look at OVH API in "zone". It seems access token can only be restricted by URL prefix path... but {zone} seems to provide unlimited access to names and sub domains.
https://api.ovh.com/console/?#/domain/zone/
If anyone knows...
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croax, jonas’: I wrote https://github.com/xivlo-sysadmins/dns-api especially for that purpose since I'm selfhosting DNS, but on a separate host.
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You can restrict a client to only a subdomain and field type.✎
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You can restrict a client to specific subdomains. ✏
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I'm doing the DNS challenge semi-manual..
Getting the generated txt secrets I've to insert via xmpp from a script, but I'm setting the records every few month myself.