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12:08:39 xmppnewsmaker Hi everybody
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12:09:26 xmppnewsmaker It's been two days by now I am trying to find out how to make a newws channel on an xmpp server
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12:10:09 xmppnewsmaker I used conversations to start a (so called) channel
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12:10:34 xmppnewsmaker But the problem is that every body can write to it
12:10:52 MattJ I think you asked this question some time ago?
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12:10:59 xmppnewsmaker It will be a news channel like those in telegram
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12:11:09 MattJ We explained you will need to configure some advanced settings, which cannot be done with Conversations
12:11:12 xmppnewsmaker Only if the admin only can write
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12:11:23 xmppnewsmaker Yes true
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12:11:31 MattJ Try using a client with advanced configuration support, such as Gajim
12:11:45 xmppnewsmaker I have both pidgin and gajim now
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12:11:57 xmppnewsmaker Running in a debian machine
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12:12:40 xmppnewsmaker I could not find out the property that sets the write capability
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12:12:47 MattJ Enable "Moderated (require permission to speak)"
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12:12:52 xmppnewsmaker Or eliminate it
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12:13:28 xmppnewsmaker This one i found in conversations
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12:13:34 xmppnewsmaker Moderated
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12:14:06 Licaon_Kter xmppnewsmaker: and maybe one more, "default visitor to participant" iirc
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12:14:14 Licaon_Kter So they don't get voice on join
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12:15:15 xmppnewsmaker I cannot find this in any of the clients i used before
12:15:26 xmppnewsmaker Do it require some plugin?
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12:16:10 Licaon_Kter No, this was the name of it that I recalled from Dino
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12:16:27 Licaon_Kter You're looking in gajim?
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12:16:52 xmppnewsmaker Yes
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12:17:46 xmppnewsmaker I am running debian inside my android. I installed gajim and pidgin to explore the channels capabilities
12:18:02 xmppnewsmaker I am familiar with these two clients
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12:18:24 xmppnewsmaker Should i try dino for more options?
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12:18:42 MattJ No, the options come from the server
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12:20:07 Licaon_Kter My gajim is b0rked can't say the exact name In Dino is "default users as participants" Have any that sounds the same? xmppnewsmaker
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12:20:08 xmppnewsmaker So ... I can do nothing to set my channel properties, I think
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12:20:28 MattJ Prosody doesn't have such an option iirc
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12:20:44 Licaon_Kter A picture of the settings in gajim, as the owner xmppnewsmaker ?
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12:20:56 Licaon_Kter MattJ: so you can't block voice on join?!
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12:21:10 MattJ Sure, you just set the MUC to moderated, as I already instructed :)
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12:22:24 xmppnewsmaker I shall double check everything before I continue this test
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12:44:20 TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker: something like this? xmpp:newsfeeds@conference.cyberdelia.com.ar?join
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12:45:15 xmppnewsmaker Yesss
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12:46:12 xmppnewsmaker I just fixed the "moderated" thing in conversations, and it is ok now
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12:46:30 TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker: use gajim to setup the MUC
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12:46:34 xmppnewsmaker No body can write in my channel but me
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12:47:00 xmppnewsmaker I found no new setting in gajim actually
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12:47:47 xmppnewsmaker Do you have any screenshot of gajim setting for the muc ?
12:48:15 xmppnewsmaker Or, can you tell me where to find that
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12:48:29 TheCoffeMaker Yes, give me a few minutes ... Im far from desktop
12:48:55 xmppnewsmaker I still need to refine the settings before i start testing the news channel
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12:50:05 xmppnewsmaker I reelly long forward to having a telegram alternative for news channels
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12:50:58 xmppnewsmaker Telegram can be inaccessible sometimes, that is exactly when people need the news more
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12:55:14 TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker, this
12:55:17 TheCoffeMaker https://cyberdelia.com.ar:5443/upload/0f1c746271efd83f8c67ec4e2fdb1075cb88684a/jmLblRvemF17NfhamIjerRJIsxoyT081i6pGH2T3Mb0hyrfuBsppzw0AxmzR/c22d64c1-c229-4ef9-af24-edced8300206.png
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12:56:59 TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker: hope u find it useful
12:57:02 xmppnewsmaker Where can I reach this screen from?
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12:57:17 xmppnewsmaker I made my channel on a puplic server
12:57:39 xmppnewsmaker pimux.de
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12:58:00 xmppnewsmaker It give better file upload size
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12:59:00 mjk > Enable hats Is this a server from the future?
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12:59:29 TheCoffeMaker mjk, ejabberd 21.12
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12:59:53 mjk Interesting. I wonder if any client support that yet
13:00:30 xmppnewsmaker Meybe we have some misunderstanding
13:00:31 TheCoffeMaker u can set hats from gajim but it hangs up processing the stanza
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13:00:37 MattJ Prosody 0.12 also supports hats, but there isn't an option to enable/disable it in the room config
13:00:50 xmppnewsmaker I am a client side
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13:01:00 MattJ The hats XEP is still in need of some love
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13:01:14 mjk Also > Roles for which presence is broadcast Seems vital for huge "channels". Does Prosody have such a setting too?
13:01:15 TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker, u should be able if u are muc owner
13:01:19 MattJ mjk, yes
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13:01:46 mjk Nice
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13:02:07 xmppnewsmaker I tried to start the channel in gajim but did not have these settings
13:02:23 xmppnewsmaker I shall try again I guess
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13:02:42 MattJ xmppnewsmaker, the settings may be slightly different because the server you chose is running different software, but the same functionality is there
13:02:55 MattJ With better names, if you ask me ;)
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13:03:47 xmppnewsmaker Is there any suggested server that will be a straightforward for my test channel
13:04:03 MattJ The one you are using seems fine
13:04:07 xmppnewsmaker I do mot want to have my own server
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13:04:35 mjk Yeah, a bunch of checkboxes with names starting with "Make" needs some UI love :)
13:04:39 xmppnewsmaker > The one you are using seems fine Ok... So i shall redo my test tonight
13:04:45 TheCoffeMaker Will be back in two hours, joining a meeting
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13:05:12 xmppnewsmaker > Yeah, a bunch of checkboxes with names starting with "Make" needs some UI love :) Sure... I belive the same
13:05:30 xmppnewsmaker > Will be back in two hours, joining a meeting Thanks for your time
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14:39:59 myjabber1337 hola comrades! (sry for my pure english) im not an XMPP admin, but want to discuss one thing some servers using captcha on registration, and some uses g**gle captcha, someone uses self written, why there's still doesn't exist standardized API or captcha to register without web, right in client?
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14:40:37 Ge0rG myjabber1337: there is a standardized api for captchas in the client, but it's not implemented by all clients
14:40:39 Ge0rG also captchas suck.
14:40:50 Ge0rG and spammers got around captchas in the past.
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14:41:08 Ge0rG and there are so many servers without, that spammers will just spam you and your usersfrom an open-registration server.
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16:08:51 rozzin Ge0rG: > and there are so many servers without, that spammers will just spam you and your usersfrom an open-registration server. I assume the idea is "if I can cut down on the number of spammers using my server, I can cut down on the rate of complains I personally need to handle about spammy users on my server, and maybe even cut down on how much storage and throughput I need to pay for".....
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16:09:49 Ge0rG rozzin: yeah, that's not an invalid thought
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16:10:13 Ge0rG but then again, there is my mantra: don't run a public xmpp server with open registration
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16:17:12 Licaon_Kter ~~Ge0rG: and when you'ree gonna stop? :)~~ ✎
16:17:17 Licaon_Kter Ge0rG: and when you're gonna stop? :) ✏
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16:18:53 Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: when I can't manage the complaints any more
16:19:13 Ge0rG I think so far I got one complaint in the last year or so.
16:19:35 Licaon_Kter Why? Why so few? Is XMPP dead?
16:20:10 Licaon_Kter Oh wa- did I double the complaints the other day? :))
16:20:22 croax > Why? Why so few? Is XMPP dead? Licaon_Kter: yes we're all from bridges, didn't know?
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16:22:21 Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: no, that single complaint for the last year was yours.
16:22:36 Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: so you increased the number by inifinity.
16:22:49 Licaon_Kter Then it's all good then, everyone knows I exaggerate...
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16:24:00 rozzin croax: personally, I'm native to XMPP... but I'm a bot.
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16:24:34 rozzin I thought the rest of you were, too.
16:24:57 Licaon_Kter I thought the rest of you were, too.
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16:42:11 mjk You thought, therefore you existed
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