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  1182. xmppnewsmaker Hi everybody
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  1192. xmppnewsmaker It's been two days by now I am trying to find out how to make a newws channel on an xmpp server
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  1197. xmppnewsmaker I used conversations to start a (so called) channel
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  1202. xmppnewsmaker But the problem is that every body can write to it
  1203. MattJ I think you asked this question some time ago?
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  1206. xmppnewsmaker It will be a news channel like those in telegram
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  1208. MattJ We explained you will need to configure some advanced settings, which cannot be done with Conversations
  1209. xmppnewsmaker Only if the admin only can write
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  1211. xmppnewsmaker Yes true
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  1214. MattJ Try using a client with advanced configuration support, such as Gajim
  1215. xmppnewsmaker I have both pidgin and gajim now
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  1218. xmppnewsmaker Running in a debian machine
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  1223. xmppnewsmaker I could not find out the property that sets the write capability
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  1225. MattJ Enable "Moderated (require permission to speak)"
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  1227. xmppnewsmaker Or eliminate it
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  1231. xmppnewsmaker This one i found in conversations
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  1234. xmppnewsmaker Moderated
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  1239. Licaon_Kter xmppnewsmaker: and maybe one more, "default visitor to participant" iirc
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  1241. Licaon_Kter So they don't get voice on join
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  1250. xmppnewsmaker I cannot find this in any of the clients i used before
  1251. xmppnewsmaker Do it require some plugin?
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  1263. Licaon_Kter No, this was the name of it that I recalled from Dino
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  1266. Licaon_Kter You're looking in gajim?
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  1270. xmppnewsmaker Yes
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  1276. xmppnewsmaker I am running debian inside my android. I installed gajim and pidgin to explore the channels capabilities
  1277. xmppnewsmaker I am familiar with these two clients
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  1282. xmppnewsmaker Should i try dino for more options?
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  1284. MattJ No, the options come from the server
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  1295. Licaon_Kter My gajim is b0rked can't say the exact name In Dino is "default users as participants" Have any that sounds the same? xmppnewsmaker
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  1297. xmppnewsmaker So ... I can do nothing to set my channel properties, I think
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  1299. MattJ Prosody doesn't have such an option iirc
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  1304. Licaon_Kter A picture of the settings in gajim, as the owner xmppnewsmaker ?
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  1308. Licaon_Kter MattJ: so you can't block voice on join?!
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  1311. MattJ Sure, you just set the MUC to moderated, as I already instructed :)
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  1322. xmppnewsmaker I shall double check everything before I continue this test
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  1469. TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker: something like this? xmpp:newsfeeds@conference.cyberdelia.com.ar?join
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  1477. xmppnewsmaker Yesss
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  1486. xmppnewsmaker I just fixed the "moderated" thing in conversations, and it is ok now
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  1491. TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker: use gajim to setup the MUC
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  1493. xmppnewsmaker No body can write in my channel but me
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  1496. xmppnewsmaker I found no new setting in gajim actually
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  1503. xmppnewsmaker Do you have any screenshot of gajim setting for the muc ?
  1504. xmppnewsmaker Or, can you tell me where to find that
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  1507. TheCoffeMaker Yes, give me a few minutes ... Im far from desktop
  1508. xmppnewsmaker I still need to refine the settings before i start testing the news channel
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  1514. xmppnewsmaker I reelly long forward to having a telegram alternative for news channels
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  1518. xmppnewsmaker Telegram can be inaccessible sometimes, that is exactly when people need the news more
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  1541. TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker, this
  1542. TheCoffeMaker https://cyberdelia.com.ar:5443/upload/0f1c746271efd83f8c67ec4e2fdb1075cb88684a/jmLblRvemF17NfhamIjerRJIsxoyT081i6pGH2T3Mb0hyrfuBsppzw0AxmzR/c22d64c1-c229-4ef9-af24-edced8300206.png
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  1551. TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker: hope u find it useful
  1552. xmppnewsmaker Where can I reach this screen from?
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  1555. xmppnewsmaker I made my channel on a puplic server
  1556. xmppnewsmaker pimux.de
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  1559. xmppnewsmaker It give better file upload size
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  1565. mjk > Enable hats Is this a server from the future?
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  1568. TheCoffeMaker mjk, ejabberd 21.12
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  1571. mjk Interesting. I wonder if any client support that yet
  1572. xmppnewsmaker Meybe we have some misunderstanding
  1573. TheCoffeMaker u can set hats from gajim but it hangs up processing the stanza
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  1576. MattJ Prosody 0.12 also supports hats, but there isn't an option to enable/disable it in the room config
  1577. xmppnewsmaker I am a client side
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  1579. MattJ The hats XEP is still in need of some love
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  1582. mjk Also > Roles for which presence is broadcast Seems vital for huge "channels". Does Prosody have such a setting too?
  1583. TheCoffeMaker xmppnewsmaker, u should be able if u are muc owner
  1584. MattJ mjk, yes
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  1586. mjk Nice
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  1589. xmppnewsmaker I tried to start the channel in gajim but did not have these settings
  1590. xmppnewsmaker I shall try again I guess
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  1594. MattJ xmppnewsmaker, the settings may be slightly different because the server you chose is running different software, but the same functionality is there
  1595. MattJ With better names, if you ask me ;)
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  1603. xmppnewsmaker Is there any suggested server that will be a straightforward for my test channel
  1604. MattJ The one you are using seems fine
  1605. xmppnewsmaker I do mot want to have my own server
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  1608. mjk Yeah, a bunch of checkboxes with names starting with "Make" needs some UI love :)
  1609. xmppnewsmaker > The one you are using seems fine Ok... So i shall redo my test tonight
  1610. TheCoffeMaker Will be back in two hours, joining a meeting
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  1613. xmppnewsmaker > Yeah, a bunch of checkboxes with names starting with "Make" needs some UI love :) Sure... I belive the same
  1614. xmppnewsmaker > Will be back in two hours, joining a meeting Thanks for your time
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  2185. myjabber1337 hola comrades! (sry for my pure english) im not an XMPP admin, but want to discuss one thing some servers using captcha on registration, and some uses g**gle captcha, someone uses self written, why there's still doesn't exist standardized API or captcha to register without web, right in client?
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  2191. Ge0rG myjabber1337: there is a standardized api for captchas in the client, but it's not implemented by all clients
  2192. Ge0rG also captchas suck.
  2193. Ge0rG and spammers got around captchas in the past.
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  2198. Ge0rG and there are so many servers without, that spammers will just spam you and your usersfrom an open-registration server.
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  2838. rozzin Ge0rG: > and there are so many servers without, that spammers will just spam you and your usersfrom an open-registration server. I assume the idea is "if I can cut down on the number of spammers using my server, I can cut down on the rate of complains I personally need to handle about spammy users on my server, and maybe even cut down on how much storage and throughput I need to pay for".....
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  2840. Ge0rG rozzin: yeah, that's not an invalid thought
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  2842. Ge0rG but then again, there is my mantra: don't run a public xmpp server with open registration
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  2860. Licaon_Kter Ge0rG: and when you'ree gonna stop? :)
  2861. Licaon_Kter Ge0rG: and when you're gonna stop? :)
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  2863. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: when I can't manage the complaints any more
  2864. Ge0rG I think so far I got one complaint in the last year or so.
  2865. Licaon_Kter Why? Why so few? Is XMPP dead?
  2866. Licaon_Kter Oh wa- did I double the complaints the other day? :))
  2867. croax > Why? Why so few? Is XMPP dead? Licaon_Kter: yes we're all from bridges, didn't know?
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  2875. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: no, that single complaint for the last year was yours.
  2876. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: so you increased the number by inifinity.
  2877. Licaon_Kter Then it's all good then, everyone knows I exaggerate...
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  2880. rozzin croax: personally, I'm native to XMPP... but I'm a bot.
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  2882. rozzin I thought the rest of you were, too.
  2883. Licaon_Kter I thought the rest of you were, too.
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