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  1182. xmppnewsmaker

    Hi everybody

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  1192. xmppnewsmaker

    It's been two days by now I am trying to find out how to make a newws channel on an xmpp server

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  1197. xmppnewsmaker

    I used conversations to start a (so called) channel

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  1202. xmppnewsmaker

    But the problem is that every body can write to it

  1203. MattJ

    I think you asked this question some time ago?

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  1206. xmppnewsmaker

    It will be a news channel like those in telegram

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  1208. MattJ

    We explained you will need to configure some advanced settings, which cannot be done with Conversations

  1209. xmppnewsmaker

    Only if the admin only can write

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  1211. xmppnewsmaker

    Yes true

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  1214. MattJ

    Try using a client with advanced configuration support, such as Gajim

  1215. xmppnewsmaker

    I have both pidgin and gajim now

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  1218. xmppnewsmaker

    Running in a debian machine

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  1223. xmppnewsmaker

    I could not find out the property that sets the write capability

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  1225. MattJ

    Enable "Moderated (require permission to speak)"

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  1227. xmppnewsmaker

    Or eliminate it

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  1231. xmppnewsmaker

    This one i found in conversations

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  1234. xmppnewsmaker

    Moderated

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  1239. Licaon_Kter

    xmppnewsmaker: and maybe one more, "default visitor to participant" iirc

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  1241. Licaon_Kter

    So they don't get voice on join

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  1250. xmppnewsmaker

    I cannot find this in any of the clients i used before

  1251. xmppnewsmaker

    Do it require some plugin?

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  1263. Licaon_Kter

    No, this was the name of it that I recalled from Dino

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  1266. Licaon_Kter

    You're looking in gajim?

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  1270. xmppnewsmaker

    Yes

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  1276. xmppnewsmaker

    I am running debian inside my android. I installed gajim and pidgin to explore the channels capabilities

  1277. xmppnewsmaker

    I am familiar with these two clients

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  1282. xmppnewsmaker

    Should i try dino for more options?

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  1284. MattJ

    No, the options come from the server

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  1295. Licaon_Kter

    My gajim is b0rked can't say the exact name In Dino is "default users as participants" Have any that sounds the same? xmppnewsmaker

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  1297. xmppnewsmaker

    So ... I can do nothing to set my channel properties, I think

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  1299. MattJ

    Prosody doesn't have such an option iirc

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  1304. Licaon_Kter

    A picture of the settings in gajim, as the owner xmppnewsmaker ?

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  1308. Licaon_Kter

    MattJ: so you can't block voice on join?!

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  1311. MattJ

    Sure, you just set the MUC to moderated, as I already instructed :)

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  1322. xmppnewsmaker

    I shall double check everything before I continue this test

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  1469. TheCoffeMaker

    xmppnewsmaker: something like this? xmpp:newsfeeds@conference.cyberdelia.com.ar?join

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  1477. xmppnewsmaker

    Yesss

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  1486. xmppnewsmaker

    I just fixed the "moderated" thing in conversations, and it is ok now

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  1491. TheCoffeMaker

    xmppnewsmaker: use gajim to setup the MUC

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  1493. xmppnewsmaker

    No body can write in my channel but me

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  1496. xmppnewsmaker

    I found no new setting in gajim actually

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  1503. xmppnewsmaker

    Do you have any screenshot of gajim setting for the muc ?

  1504. xmppnewsmaker

    Or, can you tell me where to find that

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  1507. TheCoffeMaker

    Yes, give me a few minutes ... Im far from desktop

  1508. xmppnewsmaker

    I still need to refine the settings before i start testing the news channel

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  1514. xmppnewsmaker

    I reelly long forward to having a telegram alternative for news channels

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  1518. xmppnewsmaker

    Telegram can be inaccessible sometimes, that is exactly when people need the news more

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  1541. TheCoffeMaker

    xmppnewsmaker, this

  1542. TheCoffeMaker

    https://cyberdelia.com.ar:5443/upload/0f1c746271efd83f8c67ec4e2fdb1075cb88684a/jmLblRvemF17NfhamIjerRJIsxoyT081i6pGH2T3Mb0hyrfuBsppzw0AxmzR/c22d64c1-c229-4ef9-af24-edced8300206.png

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  1551. TheCoffeMaker

    xmppnewsmaker: hope u find it useful

  1552. xmppnewsmaker

    Where can I reach this screen from?

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  1555. xmppnewsmaker

    I made my channel on a puplic server

  1556. xmppnewsmaker

    pimux.de

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  1559. xmppnewsmaker

    It give better file upload size

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  1565. mjk

    > Enable hats Is this a server from the future?

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  1568. TheCoffeMaker

    mjk, ejabberd 21.12

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  1571. mjk

    Interesting. I wonder if any client support that yet

  1572. xmppnewsmaker

    Meybe we have some misunderstanding

  1573. TheCoffeMaker

    u can set hats from gajim but it hangs up processing the stanza

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  1576. MattJ

    Prosody 0.12 also supports hats, but there isn't an option to enable/disable it in the room config

  1577. xmppnewsmaker

    I am a client side

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  1579. MattJ

    The hats XEP is still in need of some love

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  1582. mjk

    Also > Roles for which presence is broadcast Seems vital for huge "channels". Does Prosody have such a setting too?

  1583. TheCoffeMaker

    xmppnewsmaker, u should be able if u are muc owner

  1584. MattJ

    mjk, yes

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  1586. mjk

    Nice

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  1589. xmppnewsmaker

    I tried to start the channel in gajim but did not have these settings

  1590. xmppnewsmaker

    I shall try again I guess

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  1594. MattJ

    xmppnewsmaker, the settings may be slightly different because the server you chose is running different software, but the same functionality is there

  1595. MattJ

    With better names, if you ask me ;)

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  1603. xmppnewsmaker

    Is there any suggested server that will be a straightforward for my test channel

  1604. MattJ

    The one you are using seems fine

  1605. xmppnewsmaker

    I do mot want to have my own server

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  1608. mjk

    Yeah, a bunch of checkboxes with names starting with "Make" needs some UI love :)

  1609. xmppnewsmaker

    > The one you are using seems fine Ok... So i shall redo my test tonight

  1610. TheCoffeMaker

    Will be back in two hours, joining a meeting

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  1613. xmppnewsmaker

    > Yeah, a bunch of checkboxes with names starting with "Make" needs some UI love :) Sure... I belive the same

  1614. xmppnewsmaker

    > Will be back in two hours, joining a meeting Thanks for your time

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  2185. myjabber1337

    hola comrades! (sry for my pure english) im not an XMPP admin, but want to discuss one thing some servers using captcha on registration, and some uses g**gle captcha, someone uses self written, why there's still doesn't exist standardized API or captcha to register without web, right in client?

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  2191. Ge0rG

    myjabber1337: there is a standardized api for captchas in the client, but it's not implemented by all clients

  2192. Ge0rG

    also captchas suck.

  2193. Ge0rG

    and spammers got around captchas in the past.

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  2198. Ge0rG

    and there are so many servers without, that spammers will just spam you and your usersfrom an open-registration server.

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  2838. rozzin

    Ge0rG: > and there are so many servers without, that spammers will just spam you and your usersfrom an open-registration server. I assume the idea is "if I can cut down on the number of spammers using my server, I can cut down on the rate of complains I personally need to handle about spammy users on my server, and maybe even cut down on how much storage and throughput I need to pay for".....

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  2840. Ge0rG

    rozzin: yeah, that's not an invalid thought

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  2842. Ge0rG

    but then again, there is my mantra: don't run a public xmpp server with open registration

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  2860. Licaon_Kter

    Ge0rG: and when you'ree gonna stop? :)

  2861. Licaon_Kter

    Ge0rG: and when you're gonna stop? :)

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  2863. Ge0rG

    Licaon_Kter: when I can't manage the complaints any more

  2864. Ge0rG

    I think so far I got one complaint in the last year or so.

  2865. Licaon_Kter

    Why? Why so few? Is XMPP dead?

  2866. Licaon_Kter

    Oh wa- did I double the complaints the other day? :))

  2867. croax

    > Why? Why so few? Is XMPP dead? Licaon_Kter: yes we're all from bridges, didn't know?

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  2875. Ge0rG

    Licaon_Kter: no, that single complaint for the last year was yours.

  2876. Ge0rG

    Licaon_Kter: so you increased the number by inifinity.

  2877. Licaon_Kter

    Then it's all good then, everyone knows I exaggerate...

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  2880. rozzin

    croax: personally, I'm native to XMPP... but I'm a bot.

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  2882. rozzin

    I thought the rest of you were, too.

  2883. Licaon_Kter

    I thought the rest of you were, too.

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    My bad

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