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  207. asdeea Hello, I use YUNO Host to self-host. YUNO Host has a built-in XMPP server. I have never really used XMPP before, and I have few questions.
  208. asdeea How does XMPP works? Are all the messages stored on the server, or are they deleted when the other person receives the messages?
  209. Licaon_Kter asdeea: stored and forwarded, yes Deleted? Might depend on setup. They might not, unless you setup them to be, say after some days.
  210. asdeea I want to use XMPP, but at the same time I don't want it to consume all the available free space on my server, only a few GBs are left.
  211. Licaon_Kter Depends on how many users you'll have, messages don't use that much space.
  212. asdeea > Deleted? Might depend on setup. They might not, unless you setup them to be, say after some days. How can I change the setup? > Depends on how many users you'll have, messages don't use that much space. I'm the only user on my server.
  213. Licaon_Kter Files might use up more, but say 10Gb might cover 30 days for 20 users, if you limit upload size to 100Mb. From experience.
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  215. asdeea Is there a way to delete files, messages, etc from the server?
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  217. Licaon_Kter > How can I change the setup? Yunohost uses Metronome, right? Maybe Maranda can point you to some manual. > I'm the only user on my server. So even less space used. Do get some friends over...so you're not lonely :)
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  222. Ksenia Imagine needing friends. Pathetic normie.
  223. Licaon_Kter > Is there a way to delete files You can delete them manually too, but maybe your server has some fancy setup to autodelete after a while. > messages, etc from the server? This needs some commands, again, see manual
  224. Licaon_Kter Ksenia: ಠ_ಠ
  225. Ksenia > Is there a way to delete files, messages, etc from the server? Depends on your server software. Use a search engine. 🐒
  226. asdeea YUNO Host is based on Debian 10
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  229. Licaon_Kter asdeea: that's the OS
  230. asdeea Which manual am I searching for?
  231. Licaon_Kter The xmpp server software is some version of Metronome
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  233. Licaon_Kter Eg. https://github.com/maranda/metronome
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  235. Licaon_Kter You'd first need to find out which version exactly, it's helpful.
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  239. asdeea v 3.14.5 of Metronome
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  244. Licaon_Kter It says Prosody here: https://yunohost.org/en/apps?q=%2Fapps But you know what you've installed :)
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  248. asdeea Prosody is an app which you can install, Metronome comes by default with YUNO Host
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  250. Martin > Prosody is an app which you can install, Metronome comes by default with YUNO Host Prosody is an app? 😂
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  252. Licaon_Kter Oh, was reading as "everything" is an app but whatever :))
  253. asdeea https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/prosody_ynh#disclaimers--important-information
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  257. Licaon_Kter https://github.com/YunoHost/doc/blob/master/pages/01.administrate/06.overview/09.xmpp/XMPP.md
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  260. Licaon_Kter asdeea: start here https://metronome.im/documentation
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  276. asdeea Thanks!
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  283. Ksenia Do not feed autists.
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  327. myjabber1337 also, another question is it possible to storage data in IPFS compatible with XMPP server?
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  330. Ksenia Compatible in what way?
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  335. myjabber1337 i mean as regularly XMPP host works, showing message history/media/vcards and another data
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  343. Maranda asdeea: by default in YuNoHost Metronome uses the LDAP storage for most things
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  346. Maranda So there's not much files laying around you can wipe
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  355. Licaon_Kter Maranda: but the server can clean by itself?
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  366. Ksenia > i mean as regularly XMPP host works, showing message history/media/vcards and another data XMPP requires the server to send that data. The server can use IPFS as a backend, of course.
  367. Ksenia What do you intend to gain with that?
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  373. Maranda Licaon_Kter: yes
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  387. Ksenia > Maranda: but the server can clean by itself? Yes. It is not autistic.
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  401. ij Ksenia, what do you have all the time with autists/autistic?
  402. Ksenia ij: Are you one?
  403. Ksenia https://xmpp.snopyta.org/upload/b0e28878e7391f2369e79ed93d9e8b8710eef2b9/AWgpfPX151pv5kspRJnAu0d0CN6KBUxyoDhdVGr0/5th_column_autism.webp
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  408. Martin Ksenia: Autism is offtopic, please stop.
  409. Ksenia Martin: Kill yourself.
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  414. Martin MattJ, ralphm, jonas’: ^
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  416. ralphm Banned
  417. Martin Thx
  418. jonas’ thank you
  419. ij thx
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  427. karim hmm did anyone else get a “you got banned in operators@…” or is that an error in my client ?
  428. karim *notification that is
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  431. ralphm If you are @ksenia then that's why. Please refrain from the type of messages you posted today.
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  434. karim fortunately I am not. I guess I found a bug then. thanks
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  438. ralphm Good. In that case the message should read that that other user got banned.
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