XMPP Service Operators - 2022-04-06


  1. asdeea

    Hello, I use YUNO Host to self-host. YUNO Host has a built-in XMPP server. I have never really used XMPP before, and I have few questions.

  2. asdeea

    How does XMPP works? Are all the messages stored on the server, or are they deleted when the other person receives the messages?

  3. Licaon_Kter

    asdeea: stored and forwarded, yes Deleted? Might depend on setup. They might not, unless you setup them to be, say after some days.

  4. asdeea

    I want to use XMPP, but at the same time I don't want it to consume all the available free space on my server, only a few GBs are left.

  5. Licaon_Kter

    Depends on how many users you'll have, messages don't use that much space.

  6. asdeea

    > Deleted? Might depend on setup. They might not, unless you setup them to be, say after some days. How can I change the setup? > Depends on how many users you'll have, messages don't use that much space. I'm the only user on my server.

  7. Licaon_Kter

    Files might use up more, but say 10Gb might cover 30 days for 20 users, if you limit upload size to 100Mb. From experience.

  8. asdeea

    Is there a way to delete files, messages, etc from the server?

  9. Licaon_Kter

    > How can I change the setup? Yunohost uses Metronome, right? Maybe Maranda can point you to some manual. > I'm the only user on my server. So even less space used. Do get some friends over...so you're not lonely :)

  10. Ksenia

    Imagine needing friends. Pathetic normie.

  11. Licaon_Kter

    > Is there a way to delete files You can delete them manually too, but maybe your server has some fancy setup to autodelete after a while. > messages, etc from the server? This needs some commands, again, see manual

  12. Licaon_Kter

    Ksenia: ಠ_ಠ

  13. Ksenia

    > Is there a way to delete files, messages, etc from the server? Depends on your server software. Use a search engine. 🐒

  14. asdeea

    YUNO Host is based on Debian 10

  15. Licaon_Kter

    asdeea: that's the OS

  16. asdeea

    Which manual am I searching for?

  17. Licaon_Kter

    The xmpp server software is some version of Metronome

  18. Licaon_Kter

    Eg. https://github.com/maranda/metronome

  19. Licaon_Kter

    You'd first need to find out which version exactly, it's helpful.

  20. asdeea

    v 3.14.5 of Metronome

  21. Licaon_Kter

    It says Prosody here: https://yunohost.org/en/apps?q=%2Fapps But you know what you've installed :)

  22. asdeea

    Prosody is an app which you can install, Metronome comes by default with YUNO Host

  23. Martin

    > Prosody is an app which you can install, Metronome comes by default with YUNO Host Prosody is an app? 😂

  24. Licaon_Kter

    Oh, was reading as "everything" is an app but whatever :))

  25. asdeea

    https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/prosody_ynh#disclaimers--important-information

  26. Licaon_Kter

    https://github.com/YunoHost/doc/blob/master/pages/01.administrate/06.overview/09.xmpp/XMPP.md

  27. Licaon_Kter

    asdeea: start here https://metronome.im/documentation

  28. asdeea

    Thanks!

  29. Ksenia

    Do not feed autists.

  30. myjabber1337

    also, another question is it possible to storage data in IPFS compatible with XMPP server?

  31. Ksenia

    Compatible in what way?

  32. myjabber1337

    i mean as regularly XMPP host works, showing message history/media/vcards and another data

  33. Maranda

    asdeea: by default in YuNoHost Metronome uses the LDAP storage for most things

  34. Maranda

    So there's not much files laying around you can wipe

  35. Licaon_Kter

    Maranda: but the server can clean by itself?

  36. Ksenia

    > i mean as regularly XMPP host works, showing message history/media/vcards and another data XMPP requires the server to send that data. The server can use IPFS as a backend, of course.

  37. Ksenia

    What do you intend to gain with that?

  38. Maranda

    Licaon_Kter: yes

  39. Ksenia

    > Maranda: but the server can clean by itself? Yes. It is not autistic.

  40. ij

    Ksenia, what do you have all the time with autists/autistic?

  41. Ksenia

    ij: Are you one?

  42. Ksenia

    https://xmpp.snopyta.org/upload/b0e28878e7391f2369e79ed93d9e8b8710eef2b9/AWgpfPX151pv5kspRJnAu0d0CN6KBUxyoDhdVGr0/5th_column_autism.webp

  43. Martin

    Ksenia: Autism is offtopic, please stop.

  44. Ksenia

    Martin: Kill yourself.

  45. Martin

    MattJ, ralphm, jonas’: ^

  46. ralphm

    Banned

  47. Martin

    Thx

  48. jonas’

    thank you

  49. ij

    thx

  50. karim

    hmm did anyone else get a “you got banned in operators@…” or is that an error in my client ?

  51. karim

    *notification that is

  52. ralphm

    If you are @ksenia then that's why. Please refrain from the type of messages you posted today.

  53. karim

    fortunately I am not. I guess I found a bug then. thanks

  54. ralphm

    Good. In that case the message should read that that other user got banned.