XMPP Service Operators - 2022-04-06


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  207. asdeea

    Hello, I use YUNO Host to self-host. YUNO Host has a built-in XMPP server. I have never really used XMPP before, and I have few questions.

  208. asdeea

    How does XMPP works? Are all the messages stored on the server, or are they deleted when the other person receives the messages?

  209. Licaon_Kter

    asdeea: stored and forwarded, yes Deleted? Might depend on setup. They might not, unless you setup them to be, say after some days.

  210. asdeea

    I want to use XMPP, but at the same time I don't want it to consume all the available free space on my server, only a few GBs are left.

  211. Licaon_Kter

    Depends on how many users you'll have, messages don't use that much space.

  212. asdeea

    > Deleted? Might depend on setup. They might not, unless you setup them to be, say after some days. How can I change the setup? > Depends on how many users you'll have, messages don't use that much space. I'm the only user on my server.

  213. Licaon_Kter

    Files might use up more, but say 10Gb might cover 30 days for 20 users, if you limit upload size to 100Mb. From experience.

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  215. asdeea

    Is there a way to delete files, messages, etc from the server?

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  217. Licaon_Kter

    > How can I change the setup? Yunohost uses Metronome, right? Maybe Maranda can point you to some manual. > I'm the only user on my server. So even less space used. Do get some friends over...so you're not lonely :)

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  222. Ksenia

    Imagine needing friends. Pathetic normie.

  223. Licaon_Kter

    > Is there a way to delete files You can delete them manually too, but maybe your server has some fancy setup to autodelete after a while. > messages, etc from the server? This needs some commands, again, see manual

  224. Licaon_Kter

    Ksenia: ಠ_ಠ

  225. Ksenia

    > Is there a way to delete files, messages, etc from the server? Depends on your server software. Use a search engine. 🐒

  226. asdeea

    YUNO Host is based on Debian 10

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  229. Licaon_Kter

    asdeea: that's the OS

  230. asdeea

    Which manual am I searching for?

  231. Licaon_Kter

    The xmpp server software is some version of Metronome

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  233. Licaon_Kter

    Eg. https://github.com/maranda/metronome

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  235. Licaon_Kter

    You'd first need to find out which version exactly, it's helpful.

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  239. asdeea

    v 3.14.5 of Metronome

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  244. Licaon_Kter

    It says Prosody here: https://yunohost.org/en/apps?q=%2Fapps But you know what you've installed :)

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  248. asdeea

    Prosody is an app which you can install, Metronome comes by default with YUNO Host

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  250. Martin

    > Prosody is an app which you can install, Metronome comes by default with YUNO Host Prosody is an app? 😂

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  252. Licaon_Kter

    Oh, was reading as "everything" is an app but whatever :))

  253. asdeea

    https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/prosody_ynh#disclaimers--important-information

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  257. Licaon_Kter

    https://github.com/YunoHost/doc/blob/master/pages/01.administrate/06.overview/09.xmpp/XMPP.md

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  260. Licaon_Kter

    asdeea: start here https://metronome.im/documentation

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  276. asdeea

    Thanks!

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  283. Ksenia

    Do not feed autists.

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  327. myjabber1337

    also, another question is it possible to storage data in IPFS compatible with XMPP server?

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  330. Ksenia

    Compatible in what way?

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  335. myjabber1337

    i mean as regularly XMPP host works, showing message history/media/vcards and another data

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  343. Maranda

    asdeea: by default in YuNoHost Metronome uses the LDAP storage for most things

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  346. Maranda

    So there's not much files laying around you can wipe

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  355. Licaon_Kter

    Maranda: but the server can clean by itself?

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  366. Ksenia

    > i mean as regularly XMPP host works, showing message history/media/vcards and another data XMPP requires the server to send that data. The server can use IPFS as a backend, of course.

  367. Ksenia

    What do you intend to gain with that?

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  373. Maranda

    Licaon_Kter: yes

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  387. Ksenia

    > Maranda: but the server can clean by itself? Yes. It is not autistic.

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  401. ij

    Ksenia, what do you have all the time with autists/autistic?

  402. Ksenia

    ij: Are you one?

  403. Ksenia

    https://xmpp.snopyta.org/upload/b0e28878e7391f2369e79ed93d9e8b8710eef2b9/AWgpfPX151pv5kspRJnAu0d0CN6KBUxyoDhdVGr0/5th_column_autism.webp

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  408. Martin

    Ksenia: Autism is offtopic, please stop.

  409. Ksenia

    Martin: Kill yourself.

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  414. Martin

    MattJ, ralphm, jonas’: ^

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  416. ralphm

    Banned

  417. Martin

    Thx

  418. jonas’

    thank you

  419. ij

    thx

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  427. karim

    hmm did anyone else get a “you got banned in operators@…” or is that an error in my client ?

  428. karim

    *notification that is

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  431. ralphm

    If you are @ksenia then that's why. Please refrain from the type of messages you posted today.

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  434. karim

    fortunately I am not. I guess I found a bug then. thanks

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  438. ralphm

    Good. In that case the message should read that that other user got banned.

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