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ChatControl is about spying, not interop (which is Digital Markets)
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dryan 12:42:22
Ellenor Bjornsd.: >https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-control They won't disable e2e encryption literally with *Chat Control* but they are forceing companies to scan every message, before is e2e encrypted. This will apply for Whatsapp for sure. Telegram it is allready e2e-unencrypted... XMPP omemo will not be affected because is decentralized. Encryption *will not* be illegal. For now... But if we let them pass this law, they will push for it sonner or later. And on other rights also like they are allready doing for 30 years now. If they are passing this, the world will be a very dark place in the future. Our rights and freedoms are a dissadvantage for the state. Democracy can't exist with mass surveilance. Democracy means that people have the power, not the state. All this 'harmless' data they collect about us, give the government way to much power. And the power corrupts. And the government was allways corrupt and allways used his power against people. We will be extremly manipulated. Like with Cambrige Analytica at a bigger scale. We should not accept to be spyed on, especially if we don't have nothing to hide. Again. Please, send a message to the European Parlament and tell them why this law it is a very ad ideea for our freedoms. And how this doesn't solve the problem. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/12726-Fighting-child-sexual-abuse-detection-removal-and-reporting-of-illegal-content-online_en ✎
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I'm not an EU cit.
dryan 12:43:20
Ellenor Bjornsd., root, Zash: >https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-control They won't disable e2e encryption literally with *Chat Control* but they are forceing companies to scan every message, before is e2e encrypted. This will apply for Whatsapp for sure. Telegram it is allready e2e-unencrypted... XMPP omemo will not be affected because is decentralized. Encryption *will not* be illegal. For now... But if we let them pass this law, they will push for it sonner or later. And on other rights also like they are allready doing for 30 years now. If they are passing this, the world will be a very dark place in the future. Our rights and freedoms are a dissadvantage for the state. Democracy can't exist with mass surveilance. Democracy means that people have the power, not the state. All this 'harmless' data they collect about us, give the government way to much power. And the power corrupts. And the government was allways corrupt and allways used his power against people. We will be extremly manipulated. Like with Cambrige Analytica at a bigger scale. We should not accept to be spyed on, especially if we don't have nothing to hide. Again. Please, send a message to the European Parlament and tell them why this law it is a very ad ideea for our freedoms. And how this doesn't solve the problem. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/12726-Fighting-child-sexual-abuse-detection-removal-and-reporting-of-illegal-content-online_en ✏
dryan 12:43:43
Doesn't matter..
dryan 12:44:16
Should still help.
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One of the quotes I hate the most, and always immediately makes me shoot down a proposed law, is when they say "but the children", because it is never about the children and these people are exploiting children when they push this. They want to stop exploitation? Start with themselves.
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but but... but what about minors? ;)
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Lyn 20:52:56
won't somebody please think of the children!
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