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Harper
for stun/turn is it still recommended to have udp, tcp, and tcp+tls ?
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nuegia.net
what's the procedure for deleting a message from mam for prosody?
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nuegia.net
I could edit the json file but i'm not sure if there's a in-memory version or if I make a mistake and corrupt the json what will happen to the server
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MattJ
nuegia.net, mod_muc_moderation + XEP-0425
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Ellenor Bjornsd.
> bkil wrote: > Spammers use whatever platform that makes the most financial sense. I.e., they advertise on the platforms that has sufficient number of potential paying customers & laymen. While a given messenger is only used by a few geeks, it is usually not a good target for monetization. Matrix has reached commercial viability in the recent years due to its growing popularity and appeal for common people. Although we receive most spammers from Telegram/WhatsApp still (no wonder, given the proportions). It depends on the individual spammer.
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bkil
It is hilarious to read back how you struggle to fight with spammers and trolls with your PoC automation just a few hours after you declared that matrix is a joke in this regard. I'd like to note that from what I read here, I think mjolnir already does everything for matrix that you use mod_muc_rtbl, mod_firewall and mod_muc_moderation for XMPP. Some parts are already built into the protocol cross-platform and most clients & servers as well. Yet, we find the present implementation to be insufficient for even this tiny fraction of Telegram/WhatsApp spam, hence why I shared my research with you. Declaring it to be a "solved problem" sounds a bit tongue in cheek.
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moparisthebest
Sure, moderation is of course easier in a walled garden like matrix
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MattJ
??!
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MattJ
I think this conversation should end here, or move to another venue (the mod-ideas chat for example)
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moparisthebest
Anyway no one declared anything a solved problem so you can go away like the spammers
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MattJ
moparisthebest, chill please, seriously, just drop it
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moparisthebest
Roger, sent that right before your message appeared :/
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MattJ
bkil, you're welcome here, but let's not turn any of this into XMPP vs Matrix. I don't know what "struggle" you were referring to - apart from a lot of people discovering the tools we have available for the first time (or becoming aware they need them).
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MattJ
Moderation in an open network is tricky, and it's something to collaborate rather than compete on
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Licaon_Kter
Did anyone from chatterboxtown reach Ops afterall?
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MattJ
Licaon_Kter, yes, we've been in contact, accounts have been deleted
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wurstsalat
moonman@chatterboxtown.us is currently spaming (am I useful posting this here?)
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MattJ
wurstsalat, potentially, for people not using the RTBL
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MattJ
It's already on the RTBL and the admin has been notified
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wurstsalat
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MattJ
There are people with the means to add them, and many of them are MUC admins in various places
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wurstsalat
how do addresses get added to the RTBL? ✏
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wurstsalat
I see, thanks
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MattJ
A great thing right now would be for someone to write an RTBL bot that can sit in MUCs and ban people, even on servers without RTBL support
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Sam
RTBL?
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MattJ
https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_rtbl
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Sam
I'm seeing the same thing from accounts on jabber.systemli.org now, btw
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moparisthebest
Sam, https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_rtbl
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moparisthebest
yep can confirm that domain ^
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MattJ
Yeah, their server only has mailto contact info published :(
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MattJ
OTOH it seems they will shut down their XMPP server this year, so if we wait...
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MattJ
"Registration of new accounts will be disabled from 03/31/2023."