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benk
diane: I always had a good experience with Element
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benk
but also I serve it on localhost to make it go a tiny bit faster
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Ellenor Bjornsd.
> moparisthebest wrote: > Also your prosody server doesn't "have OMEMO", that's a client feature out of your control It can, however, block the OMEMO PEPs✎ -
Ellenor Bjornsd.
> moparisthebest wrote: > Also your prosody server doesn't "have OMEMO", that's a client feature out of your control It can, however, block the OMEMO arbitrary data ✏
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nuegia.net
OMEMO needs the server to implement pep to work properly
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nuegia.net
for key storage and other things
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nuegia.net
https://compliance.conversations.im/test/xep0163/
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moparisthebest
Right, but if servers started blocking that clients would find a way, go back to otr maybe
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nuegia.net
unless the client developer deprecated all the oher e2e methods and removed them from recent versions of the client.
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moparisthebest
I'm talking about some theoretical future where laws require servers to block e2e
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moparisthebest
It's an arms race and the blockers will lose, I'm not worried about it
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diane
benk, i also have several slack workspaces open, and am running out of ram... so there's many ways things could be going wrong.
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benk
Yes
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C3PO
Petition against chat control. Join in! https://civicrm.edri.org/stop-scanning-me
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benk
I'm in favor
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Licaon_Kter
benk: of the petition or of the scanning?
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C3PO
If you sign, they send to you a link to a nice video which explains quite well the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA
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benk
> benk: of the petition or of the scanning? Petition
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Licaon_Kter
👍
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bkil
> <C3PO> If you sign, they send to you a link to a nice video which explains quite well the case: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA Hm. Sending links over a centralized platform of a well known abusive monopolist to fight a good cause in support of privacy? 🤷✎ -
bkil
Hm. Sending links over a centralized platform of a well known abusive monopolist to fight a good cause in support for privacy? 🤷 ✏
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msavoritias
well we dont live in a perfect world so..
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C3PO
https://piped.video/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA
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bkil
> <msavoritias> well we dont live in a perfect world so.. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_voting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_voting
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C3PO
If you are afraid of Google: https://piped.video/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA
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bkil
Oh sorry, wrong room. We just had a very long talk in another room about why you should not use such a proxy to justify continuing to use the same monopolist. But I think it is off-topic on this MUC.
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msavoritias
> > <msavoritias> well we dont live in a perfect world so.. > > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_voting > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_voting these things are myths. but yeah feel free to go to that other room. its offtopic here anyway :) ↺
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C3PO
Hehe, guys, this is funny: Right now, in parallel in a German MUC, some people complain that the petition is English only. And you complain about YouTube-Links. 🙃 But the petition is actually about a different and a really serious topic. So please consider signing the petition and try to forget about language and YouTube for a second. Thanks! 🤓
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msavoritias
agreed