XMPP Service Operators - 2023-03-11

  1. benk

    diane: I always had a good experience with Element

  2. benk

    but also I serve it on localhost to make it go a tiny bit faster

  3. Ellenor Bjornsd.

    > moparisthebest wrote: > Also your prosody server doesn't "have OMEMO", that's a client feature out of your control It can, however, block the OMEMO PEPs ✎

  4. Ellenor Bjornsd.

    > moparisthebest wrote: > Also your prosody server doesn't "have OMEMO", that's a client feature out of your control It can, however, block the OMEMO arbitrary data ✏

  5. nuegia.net

    OMEMO needs the server to implement pep to work properly

  6. nuegia.net

    for key storage and other things

  7. nuegia.net

    https://compliance.conversations.im/test/xep0163/

  8. moparisthebest

    Right, but if servers started blocking that clients would find a way, go back to otr maybe

  9. nuegia.net

    unless the client developer deprecated all the oher e2e methods and removed them from recent versions of the client.

  10. moparisthebest

    I'm talking about some theoretical future where laws require servers to block e2e

  11. moparisthebest

    It's an arms race and the blockers will lose, I'm not worried about it

  12. diane

    benk, i also have several slack workspaces open, and am running out of ram... so there's many ways things could be going wrong.

  13. benk

    Yes

  14. C3PO

    Petition against chat control. Join in! https://civicrm.edri.org/stop-scanning-me

  15. benk

    I'm in favor

  16. Licaon_Kter

    benk: of the petition or of the scanning?

  17. C3PO

    If you sign, they send to you a link to a nice video which explains quite well the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA

  18. benk

    > benk: of the petition or of the scanning? Petition

  19. Licaon_Kter

    👍

  20. bkil

    > <C3PO> If you sign, they send to you a link to a nice video which explains quite well the case: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA Hm. Sending links over a centralized platform of a well known abusive monopolist to fight a good cause in support of privacy? 🤷 ✎

  21. bkil

    Hm. Sending links over a centralized platform of a well known abusive monopolist to fight a good cause in support for privacy? 🤷 ✏

  22. msavoritias

    well we dont live in a perfect world so..

  23. C3PO

    https://piped.video/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA

  24. bkil

    > <msavoritias> well we dont live in a perfect world so.. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_voting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_voting

  25. C3PO

    If you are afraid of Google: https://piped.video/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA

  26. bkil

    Oh sorry, wrong room. We just had a very long talk in another room about why you should not use such a proxy to justify continuing to use the same monopolist. But I think it is off-topic on this MUC.

  27. msavoritias

    > > <msavoritias> well we dont live in a perfect world so.. > > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_voting > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_voting these things are myths. but yeah feel free to go to that other room. its offtopic here anyway :) ↺

  28. C3PO

    Hehe, guys, this is funny: Right now, in parallel in a German MUC, some people complain that the petition is English only. And you complain about YouTube-Links. 🙃 But the petition is actually about a different and a really serious topic. So please consider signing the petition and try to forget about language and YouTube for a second. Thanks! 🤓

  29. msavoritias

    agreed