XMPP Service Operators - 2023-03-11

diane: I always had a good experience with Element

but also I serve it on localhost to make it go a tiny bit faster

> moparisthebest wrote: > Also your prosody server doesn't "have OMEMO", that's a client feature out of your control It can, however, block the OMEMO arbitrary data ✏

OMEMO needs the server to implement pep to work properly

for key storage and other things

https://compliance.conversations.im/test/xep0163/

Right, but if servers started blocking that clients would find a way, go back to otr maybe

unless the client developer deprecated all the oher e2e methods and removed them from recent versions of the client.

I'm talking about some theoretical future where laws require servers to block e2e

It's an arms race and the blockers will lose, I'm not worried about it

benk, i also have several slack workspaces open, and am running out of ram... so there's many ways things could be going wrong.

Yes

Petition against chat control. Join in! https://civicrm.edri.org/stop-scanning-me

I'm in favor

benk: of the petition or of the scanning?

If you sign, they send to you a link to a nice video which explains quite well the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA

> benk: of the petition or of the scanning? Petition

👍

Hm. Sending links over a centralized platform of a well known abusive monopolist to fight a good cause in support for privacy? 🤷 ✏

well we dont live in a perfect world so..

https://piped.video/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA

> <msavoritias> well we dont live in a perfect world so.. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_voting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_voting

If you are afraid of Google: https://piped.video/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA

Oh sorry, wrong room. We just had a very long talk in another room about why you should not use such a proxy to justify continuing to use the same monopolist. But I think it is off-topic on this MUC.

> > <msavoritias> well we dont live in a perfect world so.. > > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_voting > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_voting these things are myths. but yeah feel free to go to that other room. its offtopic here anyway :) ↺

Hehe, guys, this is funny: Right now, in parallel in a German MUC, some people complain that the petition is English only. And you complain about YouTube-Links. 🙃 But the petition is actually about a different and a really serious topic. So please consider signing the petition and try to forget about language and YouTube for a second. Thanks! 🤓

agreed