I didn't realize cloudflare required you to hand over your dns servers to protect you from attacks
nuegia.net
thought it was a simple 'point a cname here to protect service'
MattJ
It's been a while (like, 10 years?) since I used it, but I think they support both. Could well have changed though.
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from documentation i'm seeing they support what their calling 'partial dns' but they require you to pay an extra 200 dollars a month for it.
nuegia.net
Are there better reverse proxy services out there to protect against attacks?
nuegia.net
preferably ones that work with xmpp or generic tcp
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MattJ
nuegia.net, my advice: don't worry about it. There aren't really any alternatives to Cloudflare, or at least none that someone trying to avoid Cloudflare would be happy with. Being able to sink DDoS traffic is something only large entities with significant network control/influence can achieve.
MattJ
Outside of such organizations, your best option is just being on good terms with your hosting provider (who also does not want to be affected by DDoS)
jonas’
protecting against attacks doesn't stop at protecting against DDoS tho
MattJ
For example, OVH have automated DDoS protection: https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/security/anti-ddos/
jonas’
(any provider of non-trivial size likely has these days)
MattJ
Indeed
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MattJ
You're right, I guess I read "attacks" as "DDoS attacks" because that's the context Cloudflare usually comes up in
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TheCoffeMaker
Seems someone is spamming carrots, do we have his jid to ban in advance?
MattJ
They're using multiple JIDs, their accounts are on the RTBL and deleted already
TheCoffeMaker
Mm didnt have a chance to deploy the rtbl bot yet
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TheCoffeMaker: don't forget to target `carrot`
TheCoffeMaker
🤣️
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TheCoffeMaker
rtbl bot added ... MattJ how can I help to make it available for arm64 ?
MattJ
I probably just need to update my release build script
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great ... just asking ... added the bot to the only x86 running on my infra 😅️ ... connected to rooms right away ... how can I check if it works?
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No easy way right now, though I've been considering setting up a test channel
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TheCoffeMaker
Will ping you later on jdev witha few ideas
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00c
Is it possible to configure my server so I can send people text messages through my XMPP client?
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Trung
00c: what you mean?
00c
Do you happen to familiar with Signal?
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jonas’
you mean an SMS gateway
jonas’
there is jmp.chat and/or https://cheogram.com/ for this kind of stuff
Which is funny because Google and Facebook are still at it
00c
Please explain.
ben
Their messaging apps do SMS
Trung
my nokia does SMS just fine 😁
00c
I do my best to avoid google and facebook. I only use google for my university's email.
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How do their apps communicate SMS? Can I implement this into my XMPP server?
jonas’
they probably talk to the APIs on the phone directly.
jonas’
as they need access to the SIM card to send SMS from your own number✎
jonas’
as they need access to the SIM card to send/receive SMS with your own number ✏
jonas’
so nothing server-side at all
00c
I've gotten phising text's from JIDs.
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I ignore them.
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00c, if you're looking for a SMS gateway you might want to look at https://jmp.chat/ it's a small FOSS company that bridges the traditional phone network to XMPP.
00c
Cheogram looks like a fork of Conversations.
diane
I think I've also seen some sms/xmpp gateway code but that'd need to run on a device with a mobile network modem.
Menel
It is 00c, you'll find much more if you look longer
00c
Does this mean that I'll have to move my XMPP server to a phone or sim enabled laptop?
Menel
No. That's all via internet.
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00c
Thank you so much for all of your answers and help.
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00c
I have difficulty explaining myself. I want to be able to type my contacts phone number into XMPP and send them an SMS message.
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00c: jmp.chat will help you with that
00c
I also want my contacts to be able to text my JID and I get an XMPP message.
Menel
Same answer
Menel
Well, text your phone number
Menel
Texting your jid they do with an xmpp client
00c
If my contact has an XMPP client, I want them to send me OMEMO encrypted messages.
Licaon_Kter
00c: Send an xmpp message they get an sms
They send an SMS you get an xmpp message
00c
YES.
Menel
That works with something like jmp.chat yes
diane
00c, you're looking for something kind of like signal where you find each other by phone number, but if both sides support it the message is upgraded to an encrypted message?
00c
Diane , Yes. That's exactly it.
Menel
xmpp:discuss@conference.soprani.ca?join
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00c:
> If my contact has an XMPP client, I want them to send me OMEMO encrypted messages.
Your first message then should be _"hey, I'm cutting down my SMS usage, we can talk on XMPP, I can help you set up"_
Menel
No automatic upgrade tho
Menel
That would require an app that can do SMS and xmpp
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Licaon_Kter
00c: if they use Android just tell them to install Quicksy from their app store (F-Droid, Play)
Licaon_Kter
For iOS they need to create an account with Monal from App Store (for now)✎
Licaon_Kter
For iOS they need to create an account with Monal from App Store (for now)
https://eversten.net/en/blog/monal/ ✏
Licaon_Kter
Anyway, we've gonne offtopic here
00c
What is this channels topic?
Licaon_Kter
00c: menu - details - read?
00c
I'm an XMPP server operator.
00c
I'm a beginner who needs help.
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Licaon_Kter
We've over that already, for SMS stuff go to xmpp:discuss@conference.soprani.ca?join
Licaon_Kter
Any other subjects you need help with as an operator?
Licaon_Kter
Did you setup cron to regen your certificates?
00c
No. I do it manually every 90 days.
00c
It's not worth setting up right now. I plan on moving servers by the end of the month.
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sudo systemctl enable certbot-renew.service --now
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00c
Goodbye. It was nice chatting with you. Thank you so much for all of your help and answers.
00c: bookmark this room so you come back next time. ✏
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Trung
> Connection from trung.fun to jabber.de failed !
> Cert hash: 94944b9707b14f2b07992dff393a1f0dd185b2c3
> Error: Error with certificate 0: unable to get local issuer certificate, unable to verify the first certificate.
Menel
Same for me
Menel
Just now
Martin
> x509: certificate signed by unknown authority
Yep, probably not using the fullchain.pem…
Martin
Oh, jabber.de is operated by a new team: https://www.jabber.de/
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Martin
> Currently we do not support registering new accounts through our webpage. If you want to create a new account on Jabber.de, please do so directly from your preferred client. A list of Jabber-clients can be found here.
https://www.jabber.de/?page_id=49
I hope they have some precautions to not turn into a spam server… :-/