XMPP Service Operators - 2023-06-03

Hey is the admin of jabbers.one here?

We have a spam/transphobia problem at the news channel and all the accounts come from there

huxxer: ^

ah, you found it ✏

Yeah the accounts are deleted

And we put the news channel in moderated mode for now

Yes the Accounts were eliminated

“conference.conversations.im” publishes creater's XMPP user address by default?

☭Mike Yellow: where?

There was a bug in ejabberd, maybe it does not have that fix? Holger

I can see it in Gajim join dialog.

Ref https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3609

Yes, Gajim showed that

Not all ejabberd servers do it.

Yes, those updated to 21.xx or later won't

Thank you. Maybe I should teach users to use another account as owner for daily management, or teach them to use XEP-0016 when the owners are too famous. (^_^)

Why not just teach them to run up to date software? 🤔

> Why not just teach them to run up to date software? 🤔 You mean server software?

Found the Arch user ;) Not that I disagree with your solution

All software

savagepeanut: it's not an Arch thing. Even Debian Stable has 22.xx or 23.xx in Backports

Or run a container with podman

iirc conversations.im has a custom patched version so I guess Holger needs to add another patch and restart a beam or smth

You can't be running out of date servers on the internet until we can start writing code without bugs, and it ain't looking good :P

> All software We are still working on the XMPP user manual. But my small organization has not plan to study how to build, host, manage server softwares.

We paid much energy to learn and write a manual. We have no the ability to keep the manual up-to-date duly, so we can only choose a specific version to teach.

While I don't tweak my setup these days, ejabberd is slowly moving compared to prosody let's say, it does need to tend to the stuff around it, sslh, certs, storage, kernel, OS updates, etc.

You can set and forget but...

Errr... I guess “user” is a ambiguous word here beacause here are client software users and server software users. :P

Licaon_Kter: Thankfully, things like certs and Linux updates are a lot easier than they used to be

You're new here? Certs are the #1 hosters enemy :))

Been using Let's Encrypt automated renewal for years... hardly an enemy :-) ]

Yea works great until it doesn't

I guess I'm one of the lucky many, then

It is still easier then before. It fails for some people sometimes isn't a contradiction

☭Mike Yellow: > Errr... I guess “user” is a ambiguous word here beacause here are client software users and server software users. > :P You know this is XMPP-Server-Owner-MUC ? Have a look in Chatdetails, MUC is named "XMPP-Service *Operators*" 😉