XMPP Service Operators - 2023-06-22

Ty

Is the poez.io admin here? The certificate expired yesrerday

I forwarded your message to their MUC

Thanks.

huxxer, should be fixed now

Thanks i will Tell it my uswr

User

The blacklist you're contributing to here, is it https://xmppbl.org/ ?

dora71: maybe :)

Licaon_Kter: Then maybe I know how to integrate it into prosody :)

dora71: you do

> After reviewing chunk is the handle for some other person who is harrassing other people around, but is probably someone other than the gore posting xmpp hater? Yep diane , definitely not the same as gore poster ↺

Thanks mopartisthebest

I can only guess at motivations of these people. The one thing that I can imagine is that it gives them some kind of satisfaction to see us react to their actions. To deny them that, we might want to keep any communication about them as private as possible.

Yes, if nobody would answer to them in the channels after posting something, it would become boring fast, I would guess too.

I guess that's why some forum software has a "corn field" mode where it doesn't tell someone they've been banned, it's just they're the only one who can see what they posted. ✏

I think the term nowadays is "shadow banning" but I like yours better, isn't that from the twilight zone?

Yep. I think vBulliten might be the one who was using it that way.

But absolutely inspired by twillight zone

And the vbulletin term might've been different, it might've been some user name, I don't quite remember

> I guess that's why some forum software has a "corn field" mode where it doesn't tell someone they've been banned, it's just they're the only one who can see what they posted. that's so fucked up, that should be illegal

Why?

because the oppurtunity for something like that to be abused is too great

it's psychological abuse

if somebody is banned, just tell them their banned don't play games like this.

don't be deceptive

it's not ok when bigtech does it so it's not ok when we do it either

it's unethical

In terms of the principle of minimal effort, a shadow-ban can be more effective than a full ban against an unsophisticated moderation challenge.

A less serious implementation can be used for users who make valuable contributions but are also troublesome (don't auto-approve their posts)

I don't think shadowbanning should be used as the first option. Maybe use it for users that are trying to circumvent bans, letting them think they succeeded