XMPP Service Operators - 2023-07-03


  1. sagaracharya

    But that's good right? You shouldn't be able to open a socket on my server

  2. sagaracharya

    How do I add libevent?

  3. sagaracharya

    I did apk add libevent

  4. sagaracharya

    That must be enough right?

  5. moparisthebest

    You don't want libevent, you want epoll

  6. sagaracharya

    It requires luaevent which isn't packaged for alpine

  7. MattJ

    sagaracharya [06:33]: > But that's good right? You shouldn't be able to open a socket on my server How can anyone send you a message then?

  8. Maranda

    > <sagaracharya> It requires luaevent which isn't packaged for alpine grab it from luaforge and use docker, problem solved.

  9. sagaracharya

    By using the socket, not creating one

  10. Menel

    That message meant one can't connect to your server sagaracharya

  11. Menel

    It jsut won't work

  12. Menel

    It just won't work

  13. Menel

    Also see yourself at https://connect.xmpp.net/ No checkmark means no successful connection

  14. sagaracharya

    Menel: yes, I'm getting issues there

  15. sagaracharya

    Which is the best hardware for data stability?

  16. sagaracharya

    SSD, HDD, flash?

  17. duncan

    Backups

  18. sagaracharya

    Both storing on live disk and backup

  19. sagaracharya

    I'm currently using all flash drives

  20. jonas’

    backups, on different devices by different vendors

  21. jonas’

    bought on different dates

  22. jonas’

    to minimize the chance of a common production hardware issue breaking your stuff

  23. jonas’

    so backups and raid, obviously

  24. jonas’

    (raid does not replace backups, and vice versa)

  25. sagaracharya

    I do not use any cloud at all

  26. duncan

    You're using usb thumb sticks for storing all your data?

  27. jonas’

    sagaracharya, what's your solution for off-site backups?

  28. Licaon_Kter

    Unplug the stick :)

  29. sagaracharya

    Which is the best one among ssd and hdd for storage?

  30. sagaracharya

    Long term?

  31. jonas’

    define "long term"

  32. jonas’

    and by "long term", do you mean cold storage (not accessed and powered for long periods of time) or warm storage (not actively used, but connected to power and stuff, may get regular scrubs)

  33. jonas’

    and by "long term", do you mean cold storage (not accessed and powered for long periods of time) or warm storage (not actively used, but connected to power and stuff, may get regular scrubs)?

  34. sagaracharya

    There's something called TBW rating, SSDs are way better

  35. jonas’

    sagaracharya, fwiw, if you want help or answers, I expect you to answer questions for clarification.

  36. sagaracharya

    Both, so active one connected to a server will be warm

  37. sagaracharya

    And the other will be cold

  38. sagaracharya

    Which has backups

  39. jonas’

    how long are you talking? months, years, decades?

  40. jonas’

    how long of a cold term are you talking? months, years, decades?

  41. sagaracharya

    Decades

  42. sagaracharya

    controlling the element of cost ofc

  43. jonas’

    no clue

  44. sagaracharya

    I'm not looking for $10000 drive , something pocket friendly

  45. jonas’

    at the scale of decades, all electronic media suck AFAIK

  46. sagaracharya

    :P

  47. jonas’

    except maybe PROM

  48. sagaracharya

    Then tell me about years

  49. jonas’

    flash *should* work for years, but look for studies on your own if it's important to you.

  50. jonas’

    CDs should also work for years

  51. sagaracharya

    SSDs are good. I have used flash drives for 7 years

  52. jonas’

    SSDs are also flash.

  53. sagaracharya

    You asked a lot of questions and then didn't answer mine

  54. sagaracharya

    What kind of expert opinion is that?!

  55. jonas’

    I'm not an expert in long-term data durability. I researched the topic a year ago and came to the conclusion that for my use-case, paper as a backup next to a flash pendrive for convenience was the best choice.

  56. sagaracharya

    I feel the best cheap option is internal HDD with a lot of storage. After 10 years, SSDs will be cheap

  57. sagaracharya

    So shift to SSD then

  58. Trung

    paper don't have cookies nor javascript to gather data for UX thus it's completely rubbish

  59. jonas’

    Trung, :D

  60. Trung

    😜

  61. Trung

    hi jonas’

  62. sagaracharya

    Would y'all be open to attend an online Jitsi meet arranged by me?

  63. sagaracharya

    Which timezone do most members here belong to?

  64. jonas’

    I don't do synchronous meetings.

  65. Guus is trying to imagine what jonas’s asynchronous birthday parties look like.

  66. jonas’

    Guus, I don't do birthday parties either ;P

  67. mirux

    Forbidding insecure connection to/from p2.siacs.eu because its certificate has expired

  68. mirux

    someone here from siacs.eu?

  69. jonas’

    paging Holger: 11:24:41 mirux> Forbidding insecure connection to/from p2.siacs.eu because its certificate has expired

  70. jonas’

    (not sure if he's the right one, but I'd hope that he can get hold of daniel rather quickly)

  71. mirux

    👍️

  72. moparisthebest

    sagaracharya: you don't need libevent at all, use the native prosody epoll support instead

  73. sagaracharya

    moparisthebest: +1 sure, I will try it

  74. sagaracharya

    moparisthebest: Have you read the code of prosody?

  75. moparisthebest

    Some of it here and there