XMPP Service Operators - 2023-08-28

The older generation were generally taught from young to be more aware of potential issues that could jeopardise the security/privacy/freedom of future generations.

junaid, not really, the people in 1851 didn't expect an innocent registry to be responsible for their descendants to be killed ~90 years later https://jacquesmattheij.com/if-you-have-nothing-to-hide/ but it is good for us to learn from that history

They do as much as they understand in their present time, true.

moparisthebest, thanks! That's an excellent write-up with a nothing-2-hide lesson to be learnt. However, in my opinion, it's still distant from my thought which was more related to what the education system in my country taught me compared to what it seems to teach these days. Books in my days were chosen specifically to teach students more (long term) life lessons than simply learning a language etc etc. I admit that maybe that wasn't the case elsewhere in the world.

junaid, makes sense, that may or may not being a function of being further from the events in that blog, people forget...

They kinda skizo cycle between _"that would never happen here"_ and _"omg X person is literally hitler"_ Selective memory?

Hi Maranda, are you available?

Sorta, what's up?

Maranda: Any know issues with the support muc? I cannot join it

emus: LW's? No I'm in

Hmmm

Maranda: Any clue why the compliance tester changes the rating frequently for you server?

Long story short: because it sucks and it's unmantained it should not be used

The tester or your server? *scnr*

And it doesn't like not being able to create rooms on MUCs

Martin: the tester

And tramples on Bifrost where it's not supposed to create rooms

I asked to rectify the MAM MUC tests, answer was "I'm not adding code to it anymore"

Martin "scnr" btw

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> And it doesn't like not being able to create rooms on MUCs make an ACL for tester user ↺

and problem solved

TheCoffeMaker: I'm not adding exceptions for a buggy tool and / or hiding Bifrost from Disco.

👍 ... it worked for my use case, just wanted to share

It's unmantained and unreliable, and I threat It as such.

I'm not sure how well it stacks up to the comliance tester, but Gajim has a built in XEP checklist. It doesn't cover the XEPs for VoIP calls, but it's been enough for my use cases