XMPP Service Operators - 2023-10-17

‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:52 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: liquid.oftc.net: You are banned from this server- autokilled: Possible spambot. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this is in error. (2023-10-16 22:53:51): Unspecified error ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:54 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: Connecting to irc.oftc.net:6697 (encrypted) ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:54 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: Connected to IRC server (encrypted). ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:54 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: helix.oftc.net: *** Looking up your hostname... ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:54 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: helix.oftc.net: *** Checking Ident ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:54 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: helix.oftc.net: *** Got Ident response ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:54 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: helix.oftc.net: *** Found your hostname ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:54 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: helix.oftc.net: *** Banned autokilled: Possible spambot. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this is in error. (2023-10-16 22:53:51) ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:55 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: ERROR: Closing Link: jabberfr.org (Banned) ‎17.10.2023 | 01:53:55 ‎irc.oftc.net‎: ERROR: Connection closed.

I got this from my connection via jabberfr bridge to oftc irc.

This is not really nice to ban random servers due to war spam?

Or do you think some nerd spammed the IRC via jabberfr 😄️? Honestly, I don't

But who knows ...

Who here is jabberfr?

eevvoor: it happens, irc server bans bridge, retry...

They tell to mail support, I would do that.

eevvoor, oftc has some "badwords" which may get you spambanned.

I saw good people getting banned by this, you should contact support (or ask maybe jabberfr for support, it's not clear whether this affects you or everyone via that bridge)

If jabberfr has an open identd_port they should be able to ban more granular then just the server

Some IRC channels require the identd_port, that is true.

jonas’, I have not used bad words, for the last months I posted only a single line via oftc, that was about booting via efi or legacy.

Is here someone using oftc via jabberfr bridge?

eevvoor, I did not mean bad words like the f-word or n-word or stuff like that, it's more complicated than that and I won't go into the details publicly because it's part of their antispam measures. In any case, contact support, they'll be able to tell you what happened. Worst case you need to then ask jabberfr support for assistance.

I am not.

though, thinking of it: contact jabberfr support first

they can contact oftc on your behalf, makes more sense IMO

Yes, I did not mean obvious stuff, but also with complicated spam rules a cone liner about boot errors can not trigger the spam filter.

the ban kicks in right after the message. did you get banned right after your oneliner or was there a delay?

no, several days later

then it wasn't you and it's probably the entire bridge which got burned

contact jabberfr about it

thx jonas’

Link Mauve: about biboumi From fdroid irc: > if you're trying to use jabberfr, it's currently banned because their config sucks; I still need to yell at them about that > (it got banned automatically because their broken config tripped an antispam measure) Seems it is about channels not beeing persistent and too many joining and leaving.

I already contacted them about the issue fwiw.

Didn’t get a reply yet.

We rely on users setting the persistency because when we were setting it by default some users were angry that after connecting once their nickname would be used for months even if they didn’t connect again.

dwfreed said they are writing a mail rn

So if you routinely use irc.jabberfr.org and want to stay in the channels even when your last client is offline, please toggle persistent.

Cool. :)

I can understand both sides of the issue 🙂

Maybe biboumi needs a "persistent for X days" setting

Biboumi probably needs a maintainer.

it does indeed

or a RIIR!

with card games and entertainment!

Thanks for volunteering :)

MattJ, it's been on my mind for a while, but I haven't yet gotten the hang of xmpp-rs sufficiently to actually tackle it, unfortunately.

> So if you routinely use irc.jabberfr.org and want to stay in the channels even when your last client is offline, please toggle persistent. Because that's soooo easy I forgot how the next second...

> about biboumi > From fdroid irc: I've put it in the F-Droid About page, should I remove it?

Add a line and tell users to change their rooms to persistent via ad-hoc commands.

Licaon_Kter, how can we make that easier?

Maybe I've got it wrong, but I need a(nother) client with ad-hoc, to send those messages to configure it, yes?

Yes.

Are there still clients which don’t support ad-hoc commands? :|

Only the popular ones, Dino, Siskin, Monal, Conversations. Converse does? Profanity? Poezio? Those are not in F-Droid...

you don't need ad-hoc for persistence

it is covered in the normal MUC configuration form.

Most #fdroid members come via matrix bridge, I bet that does not need ad-hoc (well I know they record everything and keep users even when long gone, but that's another sad story)

jonas’: what's "normal muc what" ?

it works with Dino

Yup, I stand corrected

Dino can

For some reason (for my local biboumi) the Persistent toggle does not stay "on" but yeah ✏

Licaon_Kter, we can enable persistency by default, but then users will complain that their nickname stays online even when they aren’t, and forgot they were even using our service, and that other people think they are available despite that.

Yup, got it

> Seems it is about channels not beeing persistent and too many joining and leaving. Why are they doing that though?

mobile networks.

Ah, and IRC gets join/leaves

exactly

Because this user probably didn’t configure it as their bouncer.