XMPP Service Operators - 2023-10-25

> at this point github has gotten so bad we need a alternative frontend project for it like invidious, nitter, and bibliogram https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/gh I like gh.

singpolyma: > certspotter: > 504 Gateway Time-out > nginx/1.18.0

In the case of the last incident about Jabber.ru, I came across this post. https://github.com/redsolution/xabber-android/issues/540#issuecomment-394668241 The Xabber developer said with much fire that OMEMO encryption was usless back in the days.

dryan: old news

The Xabber devs moved to Estonia because unencrypted is fine...lol

> I have to enable javascript even to see the menus. It is pretty bad. The requirements for hosting a gitlab instance are crazy high too lol

Try gitea or forgejo

Isn't xabber dead anyway?

> In the case of the last incident about Jabber.ru, I came across this post. > https://github.com/redsolution/xabber-android/issues/540#issuecomment-394668241 > The Xabber developer said with much fire that OMEMO encryption was usless back in the days. This made me chuckle lol

> The Xabber devs moved to Estonia because unencrypted is fine...lol 😅

In some conversations on xmpp I cant send message.It just says u r not participating I am using conversations on android (I cant send message to their room as I get same issue there) Any help

itsaj26744, some public channels restrict new participants to prevent spam

So how should I join them?

I've just granted you permission to speak in the conversations channel, as I happen to be an admin there

Send a private message to a moderator/admin usually

itsaj26744: ^^^

Thanks

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Can I nominate someone for the block list? There's an troll being racist (N-word username posting N-word) in the dino public chat.

diane, they were blocked long ago, but the Dino chat does not use the list

ah ok.

I wish dino prioritized some of the moderation tools

thank you MattJ

np

diane, try finding out if the operators can be enabled to do so. Maybe it's a matter of time/money/resources that can be provided by someone else?

MattJ: > diane, they were blocked long ago, but the Dino chat does not use the list And the server does not block once banned and it rains outside, etc

Wow that's quite the nick in the Dino chat "I sell citizenships and new identities". I don't suppose there's a way of encouraging the dino chat owner to pick some more moderators?

diane: dino is a crap client anyway honestly

I would hope that events like this would (but it's not the first time)

techmetx11, no thanks

oh sorry

i thought the "i sell citizenships and new identities" guy was a dino mod

i misread

Yeah the dino chat is not what I'd call well moderated.

diane, it's clear they're away from the keyboard at the moment, but hopefully they'll sort it out when they're back

It's a large chat and there's only one owner, and that's a rough situation.

I wonder if it'd be possible to identify and somehow vet a pool of xmpp community members who might make good candidates for helping to provide MUC moderation assistance? I see a bunch of the same people in several MUCs

propose it to the current owner, I'd suggest.

Woohoo, modern channel binding coming to ejabberd: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4105#issuecomment-1779703369

diane: > It's a large chat and there's only one owner, and that's a rough situation. There are 2 mods

I feel like the slowness in moderation suggests they could use some more though.

True

Speaking of channel binding, I just implemented it in xmpp-rs! https://gitlab.com/xmpp-rs/xmpp-rs/-/merge_requests/224

Only for TLS 1.3 for now, but it’s the most widely used version atm.

Yay, happy to see the adoption :)

Thanks Hetzner, for driving up the adoption!

_The ecosystem has moved_ again, but we gotta stop using these reasons..e

Evolution needs a driving pressure

https://upload.jabberfr.org/jwVWCXpdZjhi5tODFqd82snq/UI_EmotionIcon19.png

Something with an LLM that forces humans to communicate only via memes?

https://burtrum.org/up/d1439e88-3908-401c-b55b-a3724facca47/zb2rhgK3RAEbYGbqHEyQjSmjqhrw7hZomL2WB1zSZ8cg3SHic.jpg

https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/O9ucZTNmoY0qvu86chub451OXzy9JzyMeVfpTlWy/NC73_8eURPmYkTmCE1G3yg.jpg

> _The ecosystem has moved_ again, but we gotta stop using these reasons..e Moxie appreciates your continued use of his self servicing marketing.

I've actually stopped using this meme, I only pull it off when it truly matters, also, this is old skool stuff and noobs don't get the reference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

someday, i'll learn how to use xmpp

> <deimos> someday, i'll learn how to use xmpp make that day today

it's most dino, i can never tell which nick it has in which muc

without looking through the entire roster

deimos <3 json over rest F that $hit

haha, clearly not me

Sorry user "hello" does

uh huh