XMPP Service Operators - 2024-01-16

wsup ppls, finally got my gitea to work

not that i have millions of repos

does anybody host xmpp on the darknet? namely i2p?

suppose you'd never admit it would ya

aha

No idea about i2p, but there are xmpp services on onion domains.

Should be doable, think i heard about gitea on i2p/onion too ✏

> No idea about i2p, but there are xmpp services on onion domains. just services? like http upload or s2s? that would be neat but I doubt it's possible for some reason

Services meant the xmpp service as a whole

oh, k check

i tried, and succeeded (i think), at hosting on i2p. Was definitely a difficult setup learning from knowing nothing about it. Didn't stick around cuz I had no idea how to find i2p jabbers

unfortunately didn't save the keys tho, so I'm sad cuz I ended up getting a *.i2p domains, now they're lost forever

Hi there! It's my first time running XMPP server :)

Madiator2011: great, come back in 25 years :)

Is it that bad?

If you use it for 25 years means it's good.

Madiator2011, hi, welcome :)

I was suprised that I wasnt able to reach external server SRV records are so confusing

Madiator2011: context https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp/111699229188608479

https://connect.xmpp.net/ can help ensure you've got everything set up correctly

(starttls should be available for both, direct tls is optional, but increasingly popular)

Direct TLS fails for me :)

I think many clients support direct TLS now, but it's currently rare on server-to-server links

Madiator2011, congrats!! :d

prosody? ejabberd?

for me most issue came that I could connect with client but weren't able to do s2s

openfire :D

openfire, ahh, I tried that one first also

I like Java based softwares

that's an oracle thing iirc, can't be sure i'm remembering that correctly

for me it was most easy to use and also one I could get to work :D

noice

Hosted on Linux?

Alma Linux dedicated machine

noice

if you host any MUCs lemme know, I'd be happy to chat :P

Wubuntu

MUCs?

Multi User Chats

Nope I'm alone :_

The xmpp nerd name for grpupchat

group chats, basically, like for example: xmpp:coding@chat.toofast.vip?join

nerd name, lool

had to setup my own server cause my friend one has only client connection and not s2s enabled

Kinda obscure question does servers store all messages from other servers? Example if I'm here does my server cache messages or they all being stored on server hosting that room?

They are only stored on the server that runs the room (and your client)

(they can be stored, most do, but it is not mandatory, having "mam" message archive management)

hmm intresting so I have send message from my friend server without s2s and I got message but sending reply back message wont arrive :)

If you received a message on a client, that's not on your friends sever, and got a message from them, then they *do* have s2s

Maybe something wrong configured tho, if it doesn't work back

on tester friend server has only Client connectivity on StarTLS working

Generally it's quite easy. Have valid certificates and a DNS record and an open port 5269.

port :5269 is s2s for XMPP, is required for federation, and federation is still happening if c2s reaches a different host

> on tester friend server has only Client connectivity on StarTLS working That explains why it doesn't work in that direction. Something wrong configured ↺

Like if they don't have the port open but s2s enabled. Would connect in one direction

Ye though I said it was reason for me to make my server

If you both have very small installs, and feel overwhelmed of the config options.... Did you read about https://snikket.org/ ? All the modern xmpp features setup in the right way...

at the same time doing it to finish up my Master Thesis

Problem with snikket for me was that they force they automated container for getting certs and it was causing issues with my reverse proxy setup

only good thing were IOS notifications

r.i.p.

And now cloudflare messed up certbot for .cloud domain they blocked api access

Menel, i prefer prosody, and ejabberd for features

.cloud, hmm.. never heard of that one b4

`xmpp.bot` :D

I mean for me best server is: run inside docker, modern usable web ui, not complex setup

Seems like snikket then🙂

nope it has modern ui but lack options you cant import certs manually

But if you're already happy, there is no rush to change a running system of course

I mean snikket was my first xmpp server before I had to purge my whole linux machine

I recommend having backups with versions. Regardless of the software

I had to build own custom docker container to update openfire as it last got updated 7 months ago

I'm not sure how to change my avatar here

That depends on your client. Should be in some account setting

I'm using Gajim

Make sure to use an up to date version, it's had a lot of improvements past year or so

im on latest 1.8.4