XMPP Service Operators - 2024-05-24


  1. devilz

    Polarian: pls msg me the user(s) ๐Ÿ˜ก

  2. ernst.on.tour

    FYI https://gultsch.social/@daniel/112494632379451042 Downtime at Saturday for conversations.im As I know he also host some additional domains

  3. Polarian

    > Polarian: pls msg me the user(s) ๐Ÿ˜ก rewt@anonym.im

  4. Polarian

    I lost the other ones

  5. Polarian

    I can't check my blocklist right now, I will grab them when I casn

  6. Polarian

    I can't check my blocklist right now, I will grab them when I can

  7. Polarian

    As a note, I have pretty much confirmed the spammer(s) is not RewtKid... its impersonation... I think Rewt has been targeted...

  8. Polarian

    devilz, niggeri@anonym.im and orrram@anonym.im as well

  9. Polarian

    thanks :)

  10. devilz

    Polarian: done โœŒ

  11. Polarian

    > Polarian: done โœŒ Thanks :)

  12. worlio.com

    ยป [05:35:43] <Polarian> As a note, I have pretty much confirmed the spammer(s) is not RewtKid... its impersonation... I think Rewt has been targeted... I have confirmed the contrary. If it is impersonation, it is people who act just like him in every way.

  13. worlio.com

    The terms and phrases they use is on par with the actual rewtkid.

  14. Menel

    It really doesn't matter. Because it changes nothing on what you'll want to block. (IPs and names) Unless you have enough evidence to go to their ISP and press charges.

  15. worlio.com

    Gathering that.

  16. worlio.com

    Nevermind, one of the spammers in my MUC said they were rewtkid which immediately means it isn't true, so this is just an impersonator who has spent too much time studying the bad shit rewtkid has done and turned it up to 11.

  17. Polarian

    > It really doesn't matter. Because it changes nothing on what you'll want to block. (IPs and names) > Unless you have enough evidence to go to their ISP and press charges. it kinda does... defamation is bad and pointing fingers at a user in front of all the other operators without hard evidence they did wrong is wrong

  18. worlio.com

    But there is hard evidence against his previous actions before this current spam, so it made sense given his grudges and prior actions that he would be behind this.

  19. worlio.com

    That is to say people should still remain on alert of a 'rewtkid', but he isn't the current priority of concern.

  20. nuegia.net

    worlio.com, if your going to press charges please share with me.

  21. nuegia.net

    My network was also attacked multiple times

  22. worlio.com

    I would like to but the chances of being able to is slim.

  23. Polarian

    This is bullying

  24. Polarian

    you have no proof it was him

  25. Polarian

    because someone signs up with the username rewtkid doesn't make it rewtki

  26. Polarian

    because someone signs up with the username rewtkid doesn't make it rewtkid

  27. worlio.com

    I don't think you're understanding that I'm not basing his admission of guilt from someone signed up as rewtkid.

  28. worlio.com

    The very JID he had when he operate b1t.rip has admitted to DDoSing services.

  29. Polarian

    This is insane, pressing charges because some spammer is annoying you

  30. worlio.com

    No, I would like to press charged because rewtkid has been responsible for DDoS attacks.

  31. Polarian

    Under what country laws? do you have his name? nationality? any identifier to be able to bring him to court?

  32. Polarian

    do you have lawyers?

  33. Polarian

    do you have thousands to pay for lawsuit?

  34. worlio.com

    Are you really here defending a serial DDoSer?

  35. Polarian

    no I am slapping you with reality

  36. worlio.com

    Okay, the reality is your friend is a DDoSer and has admitted to the crime.

  37. Menel

    The strange part is you talking about that here. Really nobody not involved can say anything for or against it. There are only people telling stories. Nothing of evidence. And even if there were more then words. this is no curt. I would suggesting you do what you want to do, and if it is something to learn from in the end, tell of the experiences when it's all done

  38. Polarian

    He is not my friend, nor do I particularly like the guy considering I found him quite rude and offensive. However you have attempted to turn every operator against rewtkid without objective proof they did anything wrong, every story has two sides and your continuous attempt at discrediting makes me feel like this issue is more a rewtkid v worlio and nuegia, than actual widescale abuse...

  39. nuegia.net

    Polarian, which server do you administrate?

  40. worlio.com

    I'm not the one DDoSing.

  41. Polarian

    don't confuse personal drama with something which all operators should act on, all I know is the widespread spamming currently is not rewtkid, its the horny spammer which spammed porn in this channel a month or so ago

  42. Polarian

    nuegia.net, I do not need to answer that

  43. worlio.com

    Whatever personal drama it is, I am not involved with it directly, so it doesn't matter what "drama" this is, rewtkid has shown abuse.

  44. Polarian

    and I will not considering your drama seems to include denial of service

  45. nuegia.net

    your on the operators chat

  46. kapad

    >> i think a discuss start again about persons, and not jid, even more going like the other time end in room moderation

  47. nuegia.net

    yet you won't disclose what you operate

  48. Polarian

    I will gladly disclose it to the staff... I will not to someone I deem a threat.

  49. worlio.com

    To consider it nothing but "personal drama" is insane because I have done nothing to him while me and my services have been endlessly attacked.

  50. kapad

    i think it's name must be on admin-addresses of the jid, right ?

  51. nuegia.net

    sus

  52. Polarian

    kapad, what do you mean?

  53. worlio.com

    Do you not see someone willing to go to such great lengths as DDoSing a public service for no other reason than their own as a problem?

  54. Polarian

    how come its only you and nuegia reporting it? and again... you have not showed any proof that it happened... if other operators start reporting denial of service then it might be a good idea to investigate... but a one off attack against one server? that could be anyone in the world!

  55. kapad

    Polarian: i mean, that the server you admin, have your jid in their admin-addresses... That's the rule here

  56. worlio.com

    Polarian: I am not showing proof because is isn't my place to. If any charges were to occure, the evidence would be included.

  57. moparisthebest

    Polarian: so you think the person he thinks it is might not be the person it is? I guess the main question is why you feel the need to say anything in this case... Just stop.

  58. worlio.com

    I am more concerned with the fact you seem inclined to defend the actions of one because of of "personal drama". I have no idea what you mean by that, but regardless of if it was "personal drama" or not, a user who stoops to such a level shouldn't be trusted in the first place.

  59. worlio.com

    Take my claims with a grain of salt if you want to, but to claim I am of a threat because of my statements should make you no better than myself.

  60. Polarian

    I thought it would be important to clarify that it seems like an impersonation seen as I was targetted last night, and part of that I tried to differentiate who it could be causing the trouble to aid in moderation, it was not meant to erupt into an argument whether rewtkid was a nice guy or not... but the spammer definitely isn't him, and unfortunately anonym.im seems to be the target currently (as reported today)

  61. worlio.com

    I clearly said I agreed the spammer wasn't him, but you attached onto the part of my statement where I said he wasn't a nice guy.

  62. Polarian

    lets just end the conversation, its completely off-topic

  63. worlio.com

    I highly recommend reading the entire message you attempt to argue with before making a response.

  64. worlio.com

    Very well.

  65. nuegia.net

    it's not an attack on one server

  66. nuegia.net

    it's at least 3 xmpp servers have been attempted ddosed

  67. nuegia.net

    what i've seen is that there is a harassment campaign related to it

  68. nuegia.net

    a user or group of users get banned for being bigots so they stalk and harass a muc moderator

  69. nuegia.net

    across multiple servers

  70. nuegia.net

    eventually get banned for harassment on another server

  71. nuegia.net

    eventually when they have a difficult time getting past moderation they try ddosing the whole server (a crime)

  72. nuegia.net

    unfortunately for them, that wasn't very effective on my network.

  73. nuegia.net

    my guess, having worked at an ISP before and having been a victum of group-stalking myself that this is also part of their harassment campaign to try to get service operators to drop the victums as 'too much trouble'.

  74. nuegia.net

    it's not going to work. I won't let that happen here.

  75. moparisthebest

    They'll get tired and go away, attackers always do

  76. nuegia.net

    except cliniclly insane people. They hold irrational grudges for years.

  77. Polarian

    > They'll get tired and go away, attackers always do _I've got tired and went away :P_

  78. nuegia.net

    most do get bored after a while.