XMPP Service Operators - 2024-05-26


  1. taba

    we need a better centralized server than C.im

  2. Menel

    Best no centralized server. But until now it had an extremely good uptime. Now it seems like a big bad luck, with two ssds breaking after the whole upgrade, on a Sunday

  3. taba

    i suggest xmpp.gtk.ge because it satisfies all the requirements: 1. is owned by me

  4. taba

    also gtk.ge has a bigger uptime than C.im

  5. Guus

    One of the key strenghts of XMPP is that we're not dependent on one centralized server.

  6. moparisthebest

    Yes taba everyone should use such a server, one that is owned by themselves

  7. moparisthebest

    Makes me laugh every time though, a server like conversations has perfect uptime for near a decade, and problems over 1 weekend and people are already "we need something better" 🤣 chill out

  8. moparisthebest

    What do the kids say these days? "Touch grass" ?

  9. praskovia

    иди потрогай траву

  10. edhelas

    > What do the kids say these days? "Touch grass" ? Meanwhile Facebook/Tiktok/whatever have a global downtime of half a day "welll lets wait, they must have a little issue, no big deal"

  11. taba

    > Yes taba everyone should use such a server, one that is owned by themselves moparisthebest: will never happen

  12. worlio.com

    We need something better (AKA I'm super elite and should be trusted with everything because I'm awesome).

  13. taba

    why we need servers with sone amount if centralization

  14. taba

    > We need something better (AKA I'm super elite and should be trusted with everything because I'm awesome). i agree

  15. moparisthebest

    > why we need servers with sone amount if centralization Hard disagree

  16. taba

    > One of the key strenghts of XMPP is that we're not dependent on one centralized server. Guus: did your c.im contacts suddenly disappear?

  17. moparisthebest

    Don't get me wrong I'm very glad great big servers like conversations exist to get people hooked, but the end goal should be everyone on a tiny server ran by themselves or someone they know

  18. worlio.com

    The solution is to make a good client with a bundled xmpp server that runs through tor so we add everyone via onion urls.

  19. MattJ

    And so that you can't send messages when one of you is offline? 🙂

  20. MattJ

    Without the tongue in cheek, I guess I mean to say that such systems do already exist

  21. MattJ

    I've always been glad that they exist, but also that XMPP fulfils a different set of requirements

  22. taba

    > Don't get me wrong I'm very glad great big servers like conversations exist to get people hooked, but the end goal should be everyone on a tiny server ran by themselves or someone they know moparisthebest: > or someone they know centralization

  23. moparisthebest

    > The solution is to make a good client with a bundled xmpp server that runs through tor so we add everyone via onion urls. Yes

  24. moparisthebest

    (assuming infinite phone battery)

  25. Guus

    Championing centralization in an XMPP operator chatroom is a bit like trying to convince Italians to put pineapple on their pizza, I believe.

  26. moparisthebest

    Woah Italians don't like that?

  27. roughnecks

    no :)

  28. Mari0

    Vade retro ... 🤣

  29. moparisthebest

    I guess the difference there is centralization is bad while pineapple on pizza is good sometimes 🤣

  30. Mari0

    > I guess the difference there is centralization is bad while pineapple on pizza is good sometimes 🤣 Pineapple on pizza is offtopic 🤣🤣

  31. Guus

    well played, Mari0

  32. TheCoffeMaker

    pineapple in pizza is not pizza

  33. taba

    usa citizenship revoked

  34. nuegia.net

    it's hawaiian

  35. nuegia.net

    it is pizza

  36. nuegia.net

    hawaii is usa now

  37. Guus

    (I can't resist this off-topic): Hawaii is also where spam is considered a delicacy.

  38. moparisthebest

    Technically correct

  39. TheCoffeMaker

    > usa citizenship revoked I just don't care abt usa customs

  40. Mari0

    lol