XMPP Service Operators - 2026-02-17

Did they ever fix bifrost spamming malformed xml at xmpp servers?

I've had to ban bifrost federation because of it

What did it cause?

i remember a similar situation but inverse. jabjab.de was spamming matrix servers which garbage

Seems to be a general issue with XMPP/Matrix bridging, mod_matrix_gateway from ejabberd also does that, it sends a "join" around every second, so Matrix users complain that they see "@user:example.org made no changes" (as it is already in the room), although clients shouldn't show that unless enabled in dev mode settings, but the issues have been open for years. Ejabberd seems to do everything right, but it is still too disruptive to actually use. I'd really like to use something like that for the very few Matrix chats I'm part of (mostly my hackerspace), but those events have already lead to very long discussions. So... idk (if there are bridges/transports/gateways other than Matridge and the seemingly abandoned Parsee, please let me know, even if it is something public that is not Bifrost, which generally seems pretty buggy, unfortunately... I ran one of those for a while)

Bifrost was spamming join/leave events on Matrix side. Non buggy Matrix gateways are very hard to find nowadays (that room admin doesn't have to set up)

Yeah, but unfortunately the Hackint bridge stopped working for my hackerspace, so now I'm trying to bridge directly to Matrix. I used to be able to just use the XMPP connection that hackint provides.

erebion: Slidge?

Yeah, I've resorted to slidge. It's been reliable and doesn't spam channels from what I can tell

> erebion: Slidge? Yeah, I use that as well, but am looking for something that allows bridging two chats so people can choose what they like and... XMPP reaches world domination :D

Matterbridge works. It's not great, but it's reliable

I would speak to Nicoco if you are having issues with slidge, hes very helpful

Yes, indeed

wait erebion, why didnt you stick around for XMPP dinner on Sunday

sure you would have a lot to discuss

Nope

I had to leave around lunchtime

Oh, misread

Overlooked "why"

Yeah, should have been there, but a couple hours on the train and work next day... In the end I got home around 23:00 that day...

Maybe next FOSDEM, if they improve the event

"improve the event"?

(Considering they want to make it more political, I'm hopeful)

Just give people room to stand in the hallway

that isnt happening, its FOSDEM it will only get more and more crowded

FOSDEM really needs more space

its not going to happen

Easiest would be large tents on the grass in front of K

if you dont like the crowds go to another conf instead

I think daniel will be at FROSCON

Annoying thing is: I wanted to talk to people, but most of the time it was too crowded to get to them, the other times it was too loud to understand each other.

I might also come if there is an XMPP presence

> Annoying thing is: I wanted to talk to people, but most of the time it was too crowded to get to them, the other times it was too loud to understand each other. yes thats just FOSDEM, FOSDEM is probably my least favourite conf ↺

Same, I have only been there because XMPP

And some Linux phone stuff

Definitely going to be at FrOSCon again, I've been a volunteer there since around 2013, I think

> Definitely going to be at FrOSCon again, I've been a volunteer there since around 2013, I think oh damn ↺

I considered going but a lot of it is in German, and although they all speak English still

Some talks also are

idk last year it would have cost me £500 to attend and I didnt want to spend that much when the talks I wanted to see was all German

But yet, there are always some English only people there

so I would come either to:

oops

didnt mean to send

I would come to: - Help out with XMPP - Do a talk in English about something but I prob wouldnt come for the talks, simply because 50%+ are German

> > erebion: Slidge? > Yeah, I use that as well, but am looking for something that allows bridging two chats so people can choose what they like and... XMPP reaches world domination :D erebion, its not ready for use, but im working on one such bridge ↺

You go to such events to talk to people anyway

> erebion, its not ready for use, but im working on one such bridge Oh great ↺

Make a PoC, set up LiberaPay and I'll set up a donation :p

so far it does text, i just need to move some addresses from being hardcoded to at very least in the config though eventually i want it to be a publicly configurable bridge (perhaps as an enableable option)

> Make a PoC, set up LiberaPay and I'll set up a donation :p he has a POC ↺

> Make a PoC, set up LiberaPay and I'll set up a donation :p im a broke college student, i will take you up on this offer =P ↺

I might throw it a tenner or something...

is there a test room I can join with both protocols and have a look?:D

ill make it configurable and usable before i e-beg

But do ping me

> is there a test room I can join with both protocols and have a look?:D yes... but you have to ignore the contents of the room because its insane lol ↺

> ill make it configurable and usable before i e-beg ping me when you do ↺

I will throw some cash

it wont be much though, I am not that well off :)

xmpp:chaos@group.pain.agency?join / #chaos:matrix.org

chaso was still available?!

> chaso was still available?! like 4 years ago atp, i had a different alias, i think #spam-offtopic:matrix.org and then i found #chaos was being hoarded by some greybeard, and he gave it up because he felt like it was a good use ↺

ive also gone and clamed #chaos on many other public servers

seems you're pure chaos :p

XMPP operators piss up when?

oh also icebound.dev, erebion, you may wish to read the readme, it explains what is there and what i plan to do https://github.com/jjj333-p/koishi

GitHub 🤮

for those who do not know what a piss up is (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/piss-up)

> GitHub 🤮 It's so jover ↺

> GitHub 🤮 ... like I agree but... ↺

its their choice

> XMPP operators piss up when? although I do think this would be fun... ↺

most of the operators are in Germany...

> its their choice Supporting one's freedom to choose doesn't mean I can't also think their decisions are stupid 😀 ↺

we need a German to agree to host a piss up somewhere, set a date and all hope over to Germany to hang out

It's so annoying when I agree with people but not with the way they act on their opinion; also not factoring in that they might not know enough to decide whether the opinion has a good basis and makes sense.

> we need a German to agree to host a piss up somewhere, set a date and all hope over to Germany to hang out operators-only ↺

> we need a German to agree to host a piss up somewhere, set a date and all hope over to Germany to hang out if only i wasnt on literally the opposite side of the world lmao ↺

> if only i wasnt on literally the opposite side of the world lmao Let me guess... North Korea? :p ↺

> if only i wasnt on literally the opposite side of the world lmao maybe if you e-beg enough, someone will donate a flight? :p ↺

> Let me guess... North Korea? :p no hes American ↺

You know what a joke is? :p

> You know what a joke is? :p oh. ↺

erebion, you could host an xmpp operators meetup prob... you are German, and tick all the requirements :p

jjj333_p [pain.agency], can I DM you to ask you things about your bridge? :D

> erebion, you could host an xmpp operators meetup prob... you are German, and tick all the requirements :p I don't drink beer. ↺

> jjj333_p [pain.agency], can I DM you to ask you things about your bridge? :D yeah sure, though beware i am in a class so i am between 3 things lol ↺

> I don't drink beer. doesnt mean you cant host it? ↺

I don't know any Germans that are technically inclined and drink.

> doesnt mean you cant host it? I could, perhaps ↺

> Let me guess... North Korea? :p hawaii lmao. im not even in the sticks and rocks, im in the water and rocks ↺

If it isn't too large, it could be at one of my two hackerspaces

> I don't know any Germans that are technically inclined and drink. wtf... ↺

beer and pizza? literally the two requirements for most FOSS software :p

shit I spilt beer on my keyboard

gtg though.

but anyways it would be nice to speak to other operators and discuss stuff irl

> yeah sure, though beware i am in a class so i am between 3 things lol just realized you might need my jid, though i think its in my vcard. jjj333@pain.agency ↺

> beer and pizza? literally the two requirements for most FOSS software :p Club Mate and Pizza ↺

The gaucho FLOSS developer diet is based on room temperature pizza and mate

oh, first diet I'd try

> for those who do not know what a piss up is (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/piss-up) right icebound.dev, when are we off to spoons ↺