Summits, Conferences and Meetups workgroup - 2019-09-12

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  5. pep.

    The stickers I got, that go on *the budget* then?

  6. daniel


  7. pep.

    Ok, it'd be cool if we had something to visualize all that. I think

  8. daniel

    like a spreadsheet?

  9. pep.

    I've spent short of 400$, so we've got the rest to spend for CCC!

  10. pep.

    Or we can actually use that for the coming sprints

  11. pep.

    Food etc.

  12. pep.

    daniel, we can try and more or less organize things for at least the stockholm sprint and get this approved within the team?

  13. daniel

    not sure there is another one coming this year

  14. daniel

    oh forgot about stockholm :-)

  15. pep.

    Yeah I'm not entirely sure either after stockholm. I am interested though in gathering and working on specific things (that could also be called sprints, but maybe not with the numbers)

  16. daniel

    yes snacks and drinks (from the supermarket so not really expensive) is probably something to think about

  17. pep.

    I really think we should try to encourage small "working groups"

  18. pep.

    Not big-ish events like we're doing

  19. pep.

    3-4 people is already good and can be a lot more productive than 10

  20. daniel

    it's complicated(tm)

  21. daniel

    because if you let scam handle it and announce it then people actually want to come

  22. daniel

    which is a good thing obviously

  23. daniel

    but then you can’t limit it to 3 people

  24. pep.

    Yeah. Maybe we can organise more at the same time in different places to try and confuse the enemi

  25. pep.

    Yeah. Maybe we can organise more at the same time in different places to try and confuse the enemy

  26. daniel

    i mean when i sat down with marvin in berlin that was super productive. so i get the 3-4 people thing

  27. pep.

    I'm fine splitting the small group of people that always goes to sprints for some time, if it allows us to do this more often

  28. daniel

    but that's outside of what scam can do i'm afraid

  29. pep.

    What I don't want is that all resolves around me organizing things :/

  30. pep.

    Because that's not going to go forever (as much as I like it)

  31. pep.

    And yeah otherwise spreadshit or equivalent for the budget would be good

  32. daniel

    yeah dunno. it'll work out. berlin is already done by another team

  33. pep.

    (yes it's on purpose)

  34. daniel

    maybe ralphm and Guus do the netherlands and some point

  35. pep.

    I might be planning to be in Japan early next year (and I just remembered about Summit/FOSDEM, gotta be careful), I wanted to try and do something there, but I know no one

  36. pep.

    I mean, devs in FOSS

  37. pep.

    I'll try to ask around

  38. daniel

    so should we officially ask scam for a budget of up to x (80 Euro?) to buy snacks and non alcoholic beverages for the 2.5 days of the stockholm sprint?

  39. pep.

    In Cambridge I had 400GBP, I think I spent not even half of that

  40. daniel

    buy you were also buying 'real food'

  41. daniel


  42. pep.


  43. daniel

    i wouldn’t go so far to do this for this sprint yet. start small (just snacks and drinks) and if that is a good experience for scam we do more for the next one

  44. pep.

    Sure. 80EUR of snacks surely is a lot of snacks

  45. pep.

    Fortunately we have a car!

  46. daniel

    it's sweden

  47. pep.

    Does that mean stuff is expensive? Or that there's no konbini at the corner?

  48. pep.

    Or that we'll be hungry? :P

  49. daniel

    but we are also 10 people. 8 euro per person for a weekend doesn’t sound too much

  50. daniel

    all of the above

  51. pep.


  52. pep.

    Yeah worksforme

  53. daniel

    i was mostly thinking of sweden being expensive

  54. pep.

    Nÿco, what do you have in mind for POSS?

  55. pep.

    I guess there will be people in Paris at that time

  56. pep.

    Might be good indeed to have a booth, and all the other things you mention on the card :)

  57. Nÿco

    booth, talks, meetup, sprint, whatever

  58. Nÿco

    Smile is organising

  59. Nÿco

    we need to hurry up

  60. Nÿco

    two years ago we had a booth but we shared it with Goffi and me (MongooseIM at that time)

  61. Nÿco

    that was not enough

  62. daniel

    not enough in what regard?

  63. Nÿco

    we might apply for a track, a half day of conferences

  64. Nÿco

    not enough impact

  65. Nÿco

    not enough material: flyers, stickers, etc.

  66. daniel

    i can’t find a call for paper on the POSS website. how does that work?

  67. daniel

    oh it's only linked from the banner

  68. daniel


  69. Nÿco

    three years ago with Erlang Solutions, we came for MongooseIM, it was cool, had time and budget, with true flyers, stickers, rollerbanner, aaand apples

  70. ralphm

    pep. If we run out of budget, we can just ask Board for moar

  71. Nÿco

    daniel : if you find an interesting track for you, then cool but we may create a special track decentralisation? instant messaging? real-time web? whatever, provided we fill it and it is valuable for the organisers

  72. Nÿco

    oh, one precision:

  73. pep.

    ralphm, we? Are you in SCAM because you're in board? :P

  74. pep.

    (note, I'm happy you're doing $things)

  75. ralphm

    No because I do much on Summit / FOSDEM

  76. Nÿco

    the POSS booths are organised in two halves: the village, which is communities, so non-profit the business, you know what it means

  77. Nÿco

    the business booth is $$$ the village booth is free, gratis

  78. Nÿco

    I can suggest we go for a booth in the village, for free, as the XSF this booth can host non-profit projects also, we can suggest a track to the organisers

  79. daniel

    cfp doesn’t really look like my talk fits in. and they have no 'other' section

  80. Nÿco

    nevermind, we can make your conf fit, or fit a track for your conf

  81. Nÿco

    what is it?

  82. Nÿco

    (I know people...)

  83. daniel

    I would have offered to give my 'state of the xmpp community' talk

  84. daniel

    slightly modified to explain more what xmpp is before i dive in

  85. Nÿco


  86. Nÿco

    what other talks can we have to shape a full track?

  87. Nÿco

    I can do something around Team Chat

  88. daniel

    do those side tracks get an audience? is there any chance we can just get 1 or two talks into main?

  89. Nÿco

    that's gonna be difficult, given the current lack of traction of XMPP

  90. Nÿco

    small tracks are usually in room like classes, 20 to 40 people, rarely full, because the program is heavily loaded

  91. Nÿco

    last year I organised a track around open source startups, it went very well

  92. Nÿco

  93. Nÿco

    ok, gotta go

  94. daniel

    who tweeted that you need to . prefix the @

  95. daniel

    otherwise it is a mention and wont show up in other peoples streams

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  98. Nÿco


  99. Nÿco

    what is "you need to . prefix the @"?

  100. Nÿco

    it is not only a mention, it is a retweet with comment

  101. daniel

    Twitter treats that as a mention

  102. Nÿco

    btw that's Twitter, that should be a conversation to have on the commTeam room, not in this SCAM room... unless we consider the fusion is already effective :)

  103. daniel

    A reply I mean

  104. Nÿco

    a retweet it is

  105. daniel

    Yes. But as a reply to xabber

  106. Nÿco

    as a retweet

  107. Nÿco

    which has a good engagement rate so far

  108. ralphm

    There's no merge

  109. ralphm

    Please indeed do this in the other place

  110. daniel

    Not sure where comm is. But don't care. I was just trying to help

  111. Nÿco

    good, thx, just the tone

  112. Nÿco

    what do you think: should I untweet and re-retweet without the mention? or any other fix?

  113. daniel

    That was just meant as "for future reference" that's how Twitter works.

  114. daniel

    Probably not worth while fixing the old

  115. daniel

    Especially if it has likes and RTs

  116. Nÿco

    right, so...

  117. Nÿco

    thanks very much Daniel

  118. ralphm

    Indeed thanks. Also, commteam@

  119. daniel

    Thanks. I was trying comm@

  120. Nÿco

    so, do we fusion or not? ;-)

  121. ralphm

    Nÿco: no

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