XMPP Summit - 2013-10-22


  1. Simon

    Peter just announced beer-o-clock

  2. winfried

    bed-o-clock here ;-)

  3. Ash

    It's bed-o-clock over this side of the pond

  4. winfried

    :-)

  5. sergey.dobrov

    I've never drunk beer in bed

  6. winfried

    That is quite cool in matter of fact (won't go into details)

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  9. winfried

    thank you

  10. winfried

    have a nice beer!

  11. ralphm

    bye

  12. Ash

    See you then everyone! Enjoy your beers!

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  14. Ash

    It's 1am here

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  24. Neustradamus

    :)

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  81. Dave Cridland

    Morning ralphm

  82. ralphm set the topic to

    Summit 14, Portland | http://piratepad.net/L89H3Q8rao | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a32d9c8156bb3900829d01ac3d80b6d8b361d910

  83. winfried

    Morning...

  84. ralphm

    hi

  85. m&m

    what technical difficulties are we working through?

  86. ralphm

    Not sure

  87. ralphm

    Peter says he's done

  88. sergey.dobrov

    Morning guys

  89. Dave Cridland

    m&m, The main technical difficulty is that we're all a bit slow this morning.

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  91. m&m

    and who said "I miss you" earlier?

  92. sergey.dobrov

    but were fast enough last evening :)

  93. Franklin, Wayne

    Fritzy

  94. m&m

    Dave Cridland: I thought the solution to that problem is caffeine

  95. winfried

    Can you plz type the agenda for today here? Still having dinner....

  96. Dave Cridland

    Agenda.

  97. ralphm

    winfried: undecided

  98. Dave Cridland

    Right.

  99. ralphm

    Agenda item 1: Think up an agenda

  100. Dave Cridland

    We have a bunch of stuff on the flipchart, but it's not clear that we're actually going to follow that as an agenda.

  101. sergey.dobrov

    the world's first recursive agenda

  102. ralphm

    Summit 15: January 30/31, FOSDEM February 1/2

  103. m&m

    got it

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  105. ralphm

    I just made this up, so I am sure we'll stick to these dates

  106. ralphm

    (like we did with this summit)

  107. m&m

    I vaguely recall general consensus to have the summit *BEFORE* FOSDEM

  108. m&m

    since after is too draining

  109. m&m

    if I recall the discussions

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  111. ralphm

    m&m: indeed, so we're set

  112. stpeter

    XMPP Summit #15 - January 30 + 31

  113. Dave Cridland

    The list is:

  114. Dave Cridland

    - components / trust

  115. Dave Cridland

    - service delegation

  116. Dave Cridland

    - XMPP-inna-browser

  117. Dave Cridland

    - delegating pubsub publishing

  118. Dave Cridland

    - source control / contrib

  119. Dave Cridland

    - pubsub problems

  120. Dave Cridland

    - mobile / SIFT / etc

  121. ralphm

    What Dave says, except that most of it likely will not be actual discussion items

  122. ralphm

    current topic: XMPP in the browser

  123. winfried

    thanks for keeping me posted

  124. stpeter

    Summt #16 in Toronto right before IETF - July 19 & 20, 2014?

  125. m&m

    +1

  126. m&m

    lost audio and active video

  127. Dave Cridland

    I can still see you. guess it's bandwidth.

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  129. m&m

    and Ralph drops

  130. Dave Cridland

    Right. Nudged.

  131. m&m

    Since we're already using proprietary services, maybe we could spin up a webex session

  132. ralphm

    My 24 hours were up

  133. ralphm

    fixed

  134. ralphm

    (from the hotel)

  135. stpeter

    or hold a Summit right before IETF 91 in Honolulu ;-)

  136. m&m

    (-:

  137. darkrain

    +1

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  141. sergey.dobrov

    dog and cake were much prettier

  142. Dave Cridland

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k93zr4gd9eje9bv/GRn-0e0D-t were my slides from RealTimeConf last year. (Assuming I got that link right)

  143. m&m

    there are active conversations near my cubicle

  144. winfried

    you can mute yourself...

  145. m&m

    just did

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  147. m&m

    didn't realize I wasn't muted

  148. Tobias

    can't join yet..still busy with university stuff

  149. m&m

    I might have to drop for the day soon, too )-:

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  155. MattJ

    https://etherpad.mozilla.org/SimplePush

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  157. MattJ

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush/Meetings/2013-02-26

  158. MattJ

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush/Meetings/2013-02-27

  159. MattJ

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Services/Notifications/Push/API

  160. Simon

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush

  161. fritzy@netflint.net

    Hello, my voice is my password.

  162. darkrain

    Please verify you?

  163. stpeter

    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI/Simple_Push

  164. Zash

    What is this I don't even

  165. m&m

    gotta join the audio

  166. m&m

    I've got various docs to work on today, so I think I'll be dropping for the session

  167. stpeter

    m&m: ok! have fun

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  169. MattJ

    Zash, https://talky.io/xmpp

  170. MattJ

    But we're about to break

  171. waqas

    What's a good name? xhtml-im.js? xhtmlim-sanitizer.js?

  172. waqas

    xep-0071.js? :)

  173. waqas pokes Lance, darkrain

  174. Lance

    is this xhtml-im specific? or generally useable?

  175. Lance

    i'd for for xhtml-im.js

  176. Lance

    i'd go for for xhtml-im.js

  177. waqas

    xhtml-im specific. It's a sanitizer with a builtin dictionary for the allowed tags, attributes and css from the XHTML-IM spec

  178. waqas

    k

  179. darkrain

    Yeah, I'd agree (I don't mind xhtmlim-sanitizer.js, either)

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  182. MattJ

    Zash, can you hear the conversation ok?

  183. Zash

    MattJ, there are people here talking so it's not easy

  184. MattJ

    :)

  185. darkrain

    Yell at them!

  186. Zash

    I had a headset yesterday but not with me

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  188. waqas

    https://github.com/zeen/xhtml-im.js/blob/master/xhtml-im.js

  189. waqas

    darkrain, Lance ^

  190. Lance

    \o/

  191. waqas

    Code review, etc appreciated. While the santization part is well-tested, I haven't tested the define/export support for nodejs/AMD.

  192. waqas

    Also, this used to be typescript (to catch any type issues), I wasn't sure whether to commit the original source, or continue it in js from now.

  193. waqas

    And I never noticed how indent was 8 spaces...

  194. Lance

    i'll play with it and make prs if needed for the packaging bit

  195. waqas

    k, thnaks

  196. Lance

    i'd say continue in js

  197. sergey.dobrov

    btw, are there any unit testing frameworks for js that are supporting AMD and code coverage?

  198. winfried

    got to go, will be back later

  199. MattJ

    See you winfried

  200. winfried

    cu

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  204. stpeter

    http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7033

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  207. Simon

    spec: https://github.com/buddycloud/buddycloud-pusher

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  210. Tobias

    who's speaking?

  211. Lance

    sergey

  212. Tobias

    ah..ok

  213. Ash

    Was that you knocking over the water Ralph?

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  216. Lance

    it was

  217. ralphm

    yes

  218. ralphm

    on the keyboard

  219. Ash

    D'oh!

  220. ralphm

    the machine appears to be fine, though

  221. Ash

    So if we suddenly lose the feed then we know why, eh? ;)

  222. Ash

    Nipping away for a bit. Back soon :)

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  224. Ash

    What's for lunch over there?

  225. sergey.dobrov

    sandwiches, cookies, chips

  226. sergey.dobrov

    aaand APPLE!

  227. Ash

    Hmm. I'm getting really peckish.

  228. sergey.dobrov

    we have ate apple for lunch, haha

  229. sergey.dobrov

    no more iphones

  230. Zash

    Oh lawd

  231. Florob

    So... three laptops left?

  232. jabberjocke

    LoL

  233. jabberjocke

    evening sandwich here

  234. Ash

    Mmm. Fruit Salad sweets! Yum!

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  236. jabberjocke

    I would be interested in feedback on the IoT xep's have anybody tried them?

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  244. jabberjocke

    http://iea.sust.se/2013/10/18/viessmann-installation/

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  246. jabberjocke

    https://github.com/joachimlindborg/SleekXMPP/tree/xep_0323_325/examples

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  248. lloyd

    xmpp-ftw will run on an arduino (have started work on this). Not proper XMPP but it is a low memory interface.

  249. Lance

    lloyd +1

  250. ralphm

    http://lanyrd.com/2013/thingmonk/

  251. bear

    redmonk is organizing an IOT conference in the UK Dec 3rd

  252. jabberjocke

    http://gogonetlive.com/gogonetlive-agenda.asp

  253. Zash

    IPv6 \o/

  254. Ash

    I think I'll duck out too, unless there's anything productive I can help with from here.

  255. jabberjocke

    yes same here. Thanks for the time

  256. ralphm

    Ash: nah

  257. ralphm

    Thanks for participating remotely!

  258. Simon

    bye ash

  259. jabberjocke

    worked fine next time through xmpp and Jingle I hope

  260. Ash

    Cool. Sorry I missed most of today's sessions! Have a great rest of the day everyone!

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  270. Lance

    Dave Cridland: quick first draft: http://legastero.github.io/customxeps/extensions/push.html

  271. Lance

    alternatively, we could define a well-known pubsub-on-a-jid node to send this stuff out on

  272. Lance

    and require the legacy push service to subscribe to it, triggering an approval request for the user to ok it

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  274. ralphm

    intosi: sorry, but we're done for the day

  275. ralphm

    https://trac.mediamatic.nl/anyxmpp/

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  280. intosi

    ralphm: thanks for letting me know.

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  284. fippo

    :w

  285. ralphm set the topic to

    Summit 14, Portland | http://piratepad.net/L89H3Q8rao | We're done for the day, the hangout has been shutdown

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  299. bear

    http://redis.io/commands/lrange

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  301. winfried

    Have a nice day!

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  304. jabberjocke

    started a FOSDEM proposal https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM14/event/1760 

  305. jabberjocke

    sorry not public yet :(

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  307. bear

    http://熊.cc

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    http://www.google.com/

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    http://www.google.com

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  312. waqas

    ormation you can add that too, in place of any. share <http://stackoverflow.com/a/13252853>|improve this answer <http://stackoverflow.com/posts/13252853/edit>

  313. waqas

    https://talky.io/xmpp