XMPP Summit - 2013-10-22

00:03:29 Simon Peter just announced beer-o-clock
00:03:50 winfried bed-o-clock here ;-)
00:03:53 Ash It's bed-o-clock over this side of the pond
00:04:04 winfried :-)
00:04:25 sergey.dobrov I've never drunk beer in bed
00:04:46 winfried That is quite cool in matter of fact (won't go into details)
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00:10:04 winfried thank you
00:10:08 winfried have a nice beer!
00:10:12 ralphm bye
00:10:15 Ash See you then everyone! Enjoy your beers!
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01:46:27 Neustradamus :)
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16:38:33 Dave Cridland Morning ralphm
16:38:48 ralphm set the topic to Summit 14, Portland | http://piratepad.net/L89H3Q8rao | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a32d9c8156bb3900829d01ac3d80b6d8b361d910
16:38:48 winfried Morning...
16:38:51 ralphm hi
16:38:52 m&m what technical difficulties are we working through?
16:39:03 ralphm Not sure
16:39:07 ralphm Peter says he's done
16:39:11 sergey.dobrov Morning guys
16:39:15 Dave Cridland m&m, The main technical difficulty is that we're all a bit slow this morning.
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16:39:25 m&m and who said "I miss you" earlier?
16:39:36 sergey.dobrov but were fast enough last evening :)
16:39:40 Franklin, Wayne Fritzy
16:39:44 m&m Dave Cridland: I thought the solution to that problem is caffeine
16:42:08 winfried Can you plz type the agenda for today here? Still having dinner....
16:42:48 Dave Cridland Agenda.
16:42:49 ralphm winfried: undecided
16:42:51 Dave Cridland Right.
16:43:05 ralphm Agenda item 1: Think up an agenda
16:43:23 Dave Cridland We have a bunch of stuff on the flipchart, but it's not clear that we're actually going to follow that as an agenda.
16:43:33 sergey.dobrov the world's first recursive agenda
16:45:08 ralphm Summit 15: January 30/31, FOSDEM February 1/2
16:45:36 m&m got it
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16:46:22 ralphm I just made this up, so I am sure we'll stick to these dates
16:46:30 ralphm (like we did with this summit)
16:46:49 m&m I vaguely recall general consensus to have the summit *BEFORE* FOSDEM
16:46:55 m&m since after is too draining
16:47:04 m&m if I recall the discussions
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16:47:28 ralphm m&m: indeed, so we're set
16:47:39 stpeter XMPP Summit #15 - January 30 + 31
16:48:07 Dave Cridland The list is:
16:48:13 Dave Cridland - components / trust
16:48:20 Dave Cridland - service delegation
16:48:28 Dave Cridland - XMPP-inna-browser
16:48:40 Dave Cridland - delegating pubsub publishing
16:48:47 Dave Cridland - source control / contrib
16:48:53 Dave Cridland - pubsub problems
16:49:00 Dave Cridland - mobile / SIFT / etc
16:49:14 ralphm What Dave says, except that most of it likely will not be actual discussion items
16:49:27 ralphm current topic: XMPP in the browser
16:50:18 winfried thanks for keeping me posted
16:51:15 stpeter Summt #16 in Toronto right before IETF - July 19 & 20, 2014?
16:51:25 m&m +1
16:51:59 m&m lost audio and active video
16:52:17 Dave Cridland I can still see you. guess it's bandwidth.
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16:52:29 m&m and Ralph drops
16:52:38 Dave Cridland Right. Nudged.
16:53:07 m&m Since we're already using proprietary services, maybe we could spin up a webex session
16:54:18 ralphm My 24 hours were up
16:54:19 ralphm fixed
16:54:34 ralphm (from the hotel)
16:55:24 stpeter or hold a Summit right before IETF 91 in Honolulu ;-)
16:55:51 m&m (-:
16:56:00 darkrain +1
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17:06:59 m&m waits for Dave Cridland to be given a pirate hat
17:07:26 sergey.dobrov dog and cake were much prettier
17:14:27 Dave Cridland https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k93zr4gd9eje9bv/GRn-0e0D-t were my slides from RealTimeConf last year. (Assuming I got that link right)
17:17:03 m&m there are active conversations near my cubicle
17:17:21 winfried you can mute yourself...
17:17:25 m&m just did
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17:17:34 m&m didn't realize I wasn't muted
17:18:04 Tobias can't join yet..still busy with university stuff
17:18:24 m&m I might have to drop for the day soon, too )-:
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17:39:58 MattJ https://etherpad.mozilla.org/SimplePush
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17:40:41 MattJ https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush/Meetings/2013-02-26
17:40:53 MattJ https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush/Meetings/2013-02-27
17:41:00 MattJ https://wiki.mozilla.org/Services/Notifications/Push/API
17:41:16 Simon https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush
17:41:40 fritzy@netflint.net Hello, my voice is my password.
17:41:45 darkrain Please verify you?
17:41:48 stpeter https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI/Simple_Push
17:41:57 Zash What is this I don't even
17:42:09 m&m gotta join the audio
17:43:32 m&m I've got various docs to work on today, so I think I'll be dropping for the session
17:44:40 stpeter m&m: ok! have fun
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17:45:24 MattJ Zash, https://talky.io/xmpp
17:45:31 MattJ But we're about to break
17:52:13 waqas What's a good name? xhtml-im.js? xhtmlim-sanitizer.js?
17:52:40 waqas xep-0071.js? :)
17:52:49 waqas pokes Lance, darkrain
17:53:11 Lance is this xhtml-im specific? or generally useable?
17:53:25 Lance i'd for for xhtml-im.js
17:53:29 Lance i'd go for for xhtml-im.js
17:53:39 waqas xhtml-im specific. It's a sanitizer with a builtin dictionary for the allowed tags, attributes and css from the XHTML-IM spec
17:53:44 waqas k
17:56:18 darkrain Yeah, I'd agree (I don't mind xhtmlim-sanitizer.js, either)
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17:57:46 MattJ Zash, can you hear the conversation ok?
17:59:00 Zash MattJ, there are people here talking so it's not easy
17:59:06 MattJ :)
17:59:57 darkrain Yell at them!
17:59:58 Zash I had a headset yesterday but not with me
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18:11:53 waqas https://github.com/zeen/xhtml-im.js/blob/master/xhtml-im.js
18:11:58 waqas darkrain, Lance ^
18:12:10 Lance \o/
18:12:50 waqas Code review, etc appreciated. While the santization part is well-tested, I haven't tested the define/export support for nodejs/AMD.
18:13:25 waqas Also, this used to be typescript (to catch any type issues), I wasn't sure whether to commit the original source, or continue it in js from now.
18:14:55 waqas And I never noticed how indent was 8 spaces...
18:15:06 Lance i'll play with it and make prs if needed for the packaging bit
18:15:16 waqas k, thnaks
18:15:20 Lance i'd say continue in js
18:16:10 sergey.dobrov btw, are there any unit testing frameworks for js that are supporting AMD and code coverage?
18:16:20 winfried got to go, will be back later
18:16:26 MattJ See you winfried
18:16:48 winfried cu
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18:38:12 stpeter http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7033
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18:52:01 Simon spec: https://github.com/buddycloud/buddycloud-pusher
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19:06:24 Tobias who's speaking?
19:06:38 Lance sergey
19:06:43 Tobias ah..ok
19:17:44 Ash Was that you knocking over the water Ralph?
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19:19:06 Lance it was
19:19:11 ralphm yes
19:19:16 ralphm on the keyboard
19:19:19 Ash D'oh!
19:19:22 ralphm the machine appears to be fine, though
19:19:58 Ash So if we suddenly lose the feed then we know why, eh? ;)
19:20:42 Ash Nipping away for a bit. Back soon :)
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19:38:40 Ash What's for lunch over there?
19:39:10 sergey.dobrov sandwiches, cookies, chips
19:39:14 sergey.dobrov aaand APPLE!
19:39:33 Ash Hmm. I'm getting really peckish.
19:39:38 sergey.dobrov we have ate apple for lunch, haha
19:39:43 sergey.dobrov no more iphones
19:39:56 Zash Oh lawd
19:40:29 Florob So... three laptops left?
19:40:34 jabberjocke LoL
19:40:56 jabberjocke evening sandwich here
19:41:45 Ash Mmm. Fruit Salad sweets! Yum!
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19:55:17 jabberjocke I would be interested in feedback on the IoT xep's have anybody tried them?
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20:21:15 jabberjocke http://iea.sust.se/2013/10/18/viessmann-installation/
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20:24:57 jabberjocke https://github.com/joachimlindborg/SleekXMPP/tree/xep_0323_325/examples
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20:29:10 lloyd xmpp-ftw will run on an arduino (have started work on this). Not proper XMPP but it is a low memory interface.
20:30:47 Lance lloyd +1
20:33:46 ralphm http://lanyrd.com/2013/thingmonk/
20:33:47 bear redmonk is organizing an IOT conference in the UK Dec 3rd
20:34:47 jabberjocke http://gogonetlive.com/gogonetlive-agenda.asp
20:35:46 Zash IPv6 \o/
20:43:07 Ash I think I'll duck out too, unless there's anything productive I can help with from here.
20:44:02 jabberjocke yes same here. Thanks for the time
20:44:08 ralphm Ash: nah
20:44:17 ralphm Thanks for participating remotely!
20:44:37 Simon bye ash
20:44:44 jabberjocke worked fine next time through xmpp and Jingle I hope
20:44:55 Ash Cool. Sorry I missed most of today's sessions! Have a great rest of the day everyone!
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21:12:08 Lance Dave Cridland: quick first draft: http://legastero.github.io/customxeps/extensions/push.html
21:12:34 Lance alternatively, we could define a well-known pubsub-on-a-jid node to send this stuff out on
21:13:02 Lance and require the legacy push service to subscribe to it, triggering an approval request for the user to ok it
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21:20:33 ralphm intosi: sorry, but we're done for the day
21:21:26 ralphm https://trac.mediamatic.nl/anyxmpp/
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21:32:14 intosi ralphm: thanks for letting me know.
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21:35:48 fippo :w
21:36:12 ralphm set the topic to Summit 14, Portland | http://piratepad.net/L89H3Q8rao | We're done for the day, the hangout has been shutdown
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22:21:57 bear http://redis.io/commands/lrange
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22:36:31 winfried Have a nice day!
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23:03:26 jabberjocke started a FOSDEM proposal https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM14/event/1760
23:04:11 jabberjocke sorry not public yet :(
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23:06:16 bear http://熊.cc
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23:17:20 waqas ormation you can add that too, in place of any. share <http://stackoverflow.com/a/13252853>|improve this answer <http://stackoverflow.com/posts/13252853/edit>
23:18:17 waqas https://talky.io/xmpp