XMPP Summit - 2014-01-30

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  10. simon.schwantzer

    Good morning.

  11. ralphm


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  17. simon.schwantzer

    Is there already a broadcasting channel to join?

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  26. winfried

    We had a bit of a internet problem, everybody should be joining the next minutes

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  28. jabberjocke

    are we doing notes somewhere

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  31. ralphm

    If anyone wants to scribe, that'd be most appreciated

  32. Dave Cridland

    Morning folks.

  33. intosi


  34. simon.schwantzer

    Good morning.

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  36. bear

    I am doing something that comes close to being a scribe

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  46. Dave Cridland

    XSF Dinner Menu Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?usp=drive_web&formkey=dFJ5Q3N4Q1ZWT3B0aWhBcklnb002eEE6MA#gid=0

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  52. Kev

    bear: And we are grateful, thank you.

  53. Tobias

    is there a youtube broadcast or similar?

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  58. hildjj

    Tobias: we're a little under-organized this year, even for us.

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  60. Tobias

    hildjj, ahh...ok

  61. ralphm

    I forgot to bring my webcam, too

  62. hildjj


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  66. Tobias

    hi valerian

  67. valerian

    Hi ;) Thanks for the invitation zeank

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  71. zeank

    hi :)

  72. valerian

    Hi :)

  73. valerian

    Any talk going on about JSJaC plugin system, zeank?

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  76. zeank

    no, that would be up to us I guess ;)

  77. lloyd.watkin

    FYI https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/demo (to get playing quickly)

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  79. valerian

    okay, let's discuss that after the summit then ;)

  80. zeank

    yes :)

  81. valerian

    Oh by the way we released Jappix One there, with full Jingle audio/video support :)

  82. valerian

    If you guys want to test, it's all running on https://jappix.com/ + downloadable/forkable on https://github.com/jappix/jappix

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  84. valerian

    It's working great, just that we did not took time to handle restrictive NAT for now, with TURN servers

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  88. Dave Cridland

    Speaking of volunteers, can I borrow a Dutch speaker down by the beanbags? :-)

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  90. remko

    dave: ?

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  106. jabberjocke

    please comment edit and change the http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2014 page make the projects intresting

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  119. hildjj

    sorry to those that haven't been around for a long time. This part of the discussion is always hard to get into for newbies.

  120. hildjj

    We were talking about http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html before everything got super-meta.

  121. Dave Cridland

    hildjj, Super-meta would be if I pointed out that the XSF had had a formal vote on what the best pizza was. (We decided "meat").

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  153. bear

    http://www.dnspython.org/docs/1.10.0/html/dns.dnssec-module.html (posted in xsf muc)

  154. Tobias

    Kev, that link seems to require camera permissions...wonder if that's due to chromes maybe just returning no media if one denies camera

  155. Simon

    Anyone here on this list: https://xmpp.net/reports.php#dnssecsrv

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  157. paulwitty

    Tobias: yes, I believe that's the case

  158. Zash

    Simon: Depends on your definition of "here" :)

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  161. paulwitty

    Tobias: you can mute your camera once you've joined

  162. Tobias

    paulwitty, thanks...but it crashes for me all the time

  163. paulwitty

    Chrome does?

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  167. Tobias

    the website...it reloads at some point

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    stalling at Loading media

  169. paulwitty

    what browser are you using?

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  171. Tobias

    Version 33.0.1750.46 beta

  172. paulwitty

    hmm, that should be good

  173. paulwitty

    I'm not in a good position here to be able to do much debugging of it

  174. Tobias

    bear, do you scribe in a public place?

  175. bear

    no sadly - I started doing this when the wifi was off

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  177. bear

    so it's a text file that I just put notes and comments into

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  180. bear

    ah, the xsf way of discussing these issues is so ... well... yea, :)

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  183. paulwitty

    I'll take the video/audio link into the Summit down now, to stop it taking up our bandwidth

  184. paulwitty

    if anyone remote wants it back (to join with WebRTC), let me know and I'll bring it back

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  199. hildjj

    To join the list:

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  201. Zash

    Is someone going to care if I post "just put a bunch of PEM encoded certificates in a file"

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  203. Tobias

    Zash, does PEM allow commenting?

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  205. hildjj

    Zash: feel free. The question at the moment is whether that doc is the *starting* point.

  206. Zash

    If it's a plain text file with PEM certs in, and declare that anything between them are to be ignored.

  207. hildjj

    apparently, there's at least one person that wants comments.

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  209. hildjj

    Warning: as chair, i'm likely to ask you to produce an ID if you're serious. :)

  210. MattJ

    ID... identification or Internet Draft?

  211. hildjj

    Internet Draft

  212. hildjj

    It's really quite easy if you start here: http://www.ipv.sx/draftr/

  213. hildjj

    Write Markdown, which then generates text and XML.

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  215. MattJ

    What after that? As someone who has never submitted an ID, is there an overview of the process for first-timers?

  216. hildjj

    hang on. looking.

  217. hildjj

    while i'm looking, the next step is you submit the .txt and .xml here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/

  218. hildjj

    which does an email auth dance

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  220. lloyd.watkin

    Is there a URL for the proposed whiteboarding XEP?

  221. Tobias

    MattJ, be careful in what you're getting into :)

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  223. MattJ

    hildjj, thanks :)

  224. Tobias

    lloyd.watkin, somewhere around github.com/remko?

  225. remko

    lloyd.watkin: https://github.com/remko/xeps/blob/master/whiteboarding.md

  226. Ash

    Regarding whiteboarding, does anyone know how this project is doing it? http://coccinella.im/

  227. hildjj

    "Planning to write an Internet Draft?" http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=125

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  229. MattJ

    Thanks hildjj :)

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  235. Steffen Larsen

    cool! shake and bake XMPP

  236. zeank

    how's that compatible with cats?

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  239. hildjj

    zeank: Internet of Cats

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  241. zeank

    I just wonder how shaking is suitable for initiating a friendship request

  242. Link Mauve

    My cats don’t like it.

  243. intosi

    Depends on the type of friendship you're after.

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  245. Link Mauve

    It can include claws.

  246. hildjj

    you shake the cat and a lightbulb at the same time. Now, whenever the cat enters the room, the lights change to something complementary to its mood, and your stereo plays the cat's theme song.

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  248. Ash

    Speaking of which, there was an action from last year I think to split XEP-0060

  249. Steffen Larsen

    Ash: ha ha.. yes

  250. Ash

    Maybe worth picking up again tomorrow

  251. Ash

    I know XEP-0060 fairly well, so would be happy to help with that

  252. ralphm

    Ash: this is my action point

  253. ralphm

    it just needs to be done

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  255. hildjj

    ralph, if ash is willing to take a first crack at it, maybe you could edit from there?

  256. hildjj

    forward progress > perfection

  257. ralphm

    Ash: would be great to do something about this soonish

  258. Ash

    Yeah. Do we have the notes from the discussion last year?

  259. ralphm

    I think so, but let's chat for a few minutes

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  261. intosi

    I'd be interested in at least listening in.

  262. Link Mauve

    I’m in too.

  263. ralphm

    sounds awesome

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    shall we arrange to meet at the hotel at some time to get food & beer?

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    yes that would be good!

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    is there a short-track-procedure for becoming a member when attending the summit?

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  330. winfried winks

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    time to go to the bar?#

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  333. zeank

    I'm still naked! *waiiiiit* :D

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    I'll be down in 2 min.

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  357. hildjj

    where did people end up?

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