XMPP Summit - 2014-01-30

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07:16:32 simon.schwantzer Good morning.
07:18:36 ralphm hi
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09:31:37 winfried We had a bit of a internet problem, everybody should be joining the next minutes
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09:40:51 jabberjocke are we doing notes somewhere
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09:41:57 ralphm If anyone wants to scribe, that'd be most appreciated
09:42:44 Dave Cridland Morning folks.
09:42:59 intosi Moin
09:45:09 simon.schwantzer Good morning.
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09:55:51 bear I am doing something that comes close to being a scribe
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10:10:56 Dave Cridland XSF Dinner Menu Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?usp=drive_web&formkey=dFJ5Q3N4Q1ZWT3B0aWhBcklnb002eEE6MA#gid=0
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10:13:27 Kev bear: And we are grateful, thank you.
10:16:13 Tobias is there a youtube broadcast or similar?
10:17:02 bear http://stanza.io
10:17:20 hildjj https://github.com/legastero/stanza.io
10:17:35 intosi ta
10:17:49 intosi http://otalk.im/
10:17:50 hildjj Tobias: we're a little under-organized this year, even for us.
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10:18:14 Tobias hildjj, ahh...ok
10:19:09 ralphm I forgot to bring my webcam, too
10:19:52 hildjj http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daboo-aggregated-service-discovery-03
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10:23:52 valerian Hey
10:24:18 Tobias hi valerian
10:24:43 valerian Hi ;) Thanks for the invitation zeank
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10:26:11 zeank hi :)
10:26:20 valerian Hi :)
10:26:37 valerian Any talk going on about JSJaC plugin system, zeank?
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10:27:29 zeank no, that would be up to us I guess ;)
10:28:02 lloyd.watkin FYI https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/demo (to get playing quickly)
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10:30:31 valerian okay, let's discuss that after the summit then ;)
10:31:41 zeank yes :)
10:32:27 valerian Oh by the way we released Jappix One there, with full Jingle audio/video support :)
10:32:51 valerian If you guys want to test, it's all running on https://jappix.com/ + downloadable/forkable on https://github.com/jappix/jappix
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10:33:25 valerian It's working great, just that we did not took time to handle restrictive NAT for now, with TURN servers
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10:35:08 zeank (y)
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10:42:44 Dave Cridland Speaking of volunteers, can I borrow a Dutch speaker down by the beanbags? :-)
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10:43:00 remko dave: ?
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11:08:02 Kev https://join.tryacano.com/invited.sf?id=182834436
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11:11:01 jabberjocke please comment edit and change the http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2014 page make the projects intresting
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11:35:07 hildjj sorry to those that haven't been around for a long time. This part of the discussion is always hard to get into for newbies.
11:36:07 hildjj We were talking about http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html before everything got super-meta.
11:38:18 Dave Cridland hildjj, Super-meta would be if I pointed out that the XSF had had a formal vote on what the best pizza was. (We decided "meat").
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12:46:05 bear http://www.dnspython.org/docs/1.10.0/html/dns.dnssec-module.html (posted in xsf muc)
12:46:33 Tobias Kev, that link seems to require camera permissions...wonder if that's due to chromes maybe just returning no media if one denies camera
12:47:02 Simon Anyone here on this list: https://xmpp.net/reports.php#dnssecsrv
12:47:03 Simon ?
12:47:25 paulwitty Tobias: yes, I believe that's the case
12:47:37 Zash Simon: Depends on your definition of "here" :)
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13:11:26 paulwitty Tobias: you can mute your camera once you've joined
13:15:22 Tobias paulwitty, thanks...but it crashes for me all the time
13:15:32 paulwitty Chrome does?
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13:18:10 Tobias the website...it reloads at some point
13:18:48 Tobias stalling at Loading media
13:18:57 paulwitty what browser are you using?
13:19:02 Tobias chrome
13:19:20 Tobias Version 33.0.1750.46 beta
13:20:21 paulwitty hmm, that should be good
13:21:43 paulwitty I'm not in a good position here to be able to do much debugging of it
13:22:09 Tobias bear, do you scribe in a public place?
13:22:27 bear no sadly - I started doing this when the wifi was off
13:22:40 Tobias ah..ok
13:22:48 bear so it's a text file that I just put notes and comments into
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13:37:01 bear ah, the xsf way of discussing these issues is so ... well... yea, :)
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13:39:31 paulwitty I'll take the video/audio link into the Summit down now, to stop it taking up our bandwidth
13:39:52 paulwitty if anyone remote wants it back (to join with WebRTC), let me know and I'll bring it back
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13:56:34 hildjj http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xmpp/current/msg03084.html
13:57:10 hildjj To join the list:
13:57:11 hildjj https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp
13:59:54 Zash Is someone going to care if I post "just put a bunch of PEM encoded certificates in a file"
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14:01:10 Tobias Zash, does PEM allow commenting?
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14:01:35 hildjj Zash: feel free. The question at the moment is whether that doc is the *starting* point.
14:01:43 Zash If it's a plain text file with PEM certs in, and declare that anything between them are to be ignored.
14:01:45 hildjj apparently, there's at least one person that wants comments.
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14:02:12 hildjj Warning: as chair, i'm likely to ask you to produce an ID if you're serious. :)
14:04:34 MattJ ID... identification or Internet Draft?
14:04:40 hildjj Internet Draft
14:05:25 hildjj It's really quite easy if you start here: http://www.ipv.sx/draftr/
14:05:45 hildjj Write Markdown, which then generates text and XML.
14:05:51 MattJ Fancy
14:06:16 MattJ What after that? As someone who has never submitted an ID, is there an overview of the process for first-timers?
14:06:27 hildjj hang on. looking.
14:06:56 hildjj while i'm looking, the next step is you submit the .txt and .xml here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/
14:07:10 hildjj which does an email auth dance
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14:08:21 lloyd.watkin Is there a URL for the proposed whiteboarding XEP?
14:08:29 Tobias MattJ, be careful in what you're getting into :)
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14:08:36 MattJ hildjj, thanks :)
14:08:37 Tobias lloyd.watkin, somewhere around github.com/remko?
14:09:19 remko lloyd.watkin: https://github.com/remko/xeps/blob/master/whiteboarding.md
14:09:25 Ash Regarding whiteboarding, does anyone know how this project is doing it? http://coccinella.im/
14:09:26 hildjj "Planning to write an Internet Draft?" http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=125
14:09:28 lloyd.watkin thanks
14:09:38 MattJ Thanks hildjj :)
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14:25:06 Steffen Larsen cool! shake and bake XMPP
14:25:29 zeank how's that compatible with cats?
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14:26:38 hildjj http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0132.html
14:26:53 hildjj zeank: Internet of Cats
14:27:35 zeank :-P
14:28:07 zeank I just wonder how shaking is suitable for initiating a friendship request
14:28:51 Link Mauve My cats don’t like it.
14:28:57 intosi Depends on the type of friendship you're after.
14:29:20 zeank lol
14:29:27 Link Mauve It can include claws.
14:29:49 hildjj you shake the cat and a lightbulb at the same time. Now, whenever the cat enters the room, the lights change to something complementary to its mood, and your stereo plays the cat's theme song.
14:30:01 zeank (y)
14:33:14 Ash Speaking of which, there was an action from last year I think to split XEP-0060
14:33:49 Steffen Larsen Ash: ha ha.. yes
14:33:56 Ash Maybe worth picking up again tomorrow
14:34:09 Ash I know XEP-0060 fairly well, so would be happy to help with that
14:34:43 ralphm Ash: this is my action point
14:34:53 ralphm it just needs to be done
14:34:57 ralphm :-)
14:35:06 hildjj ralph, if ash is willing to take a first crack at it, maybe you could edit from there?
14:35:15 hildjj forward progress > perfection
14:35:16 ralphm Ash: would be great to do something about this soonish
14:35:38 Ash Yeah. Do we have the notes from the discussion last year?
14:35:54 ralphm I think so, but let's chat for a few minutes
14:36:05 Ash :)
14:36:07 intosi I'd be interested in at least listening in.
14:36:26 Link Mauve I’m in too.
14:37:12 ralphm sounds awesome
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14:51:38 hildjj IoB.
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14:52:58 paulwitty shall we arrange to meet at the hotel at some time to get food & beer?
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15:04:30 jabberjocke yes that would be good!
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15:36:23 Ge0rG is there a short-track-procedure for becoming a member when attending the summit?
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17:05:35 winfried winks
17:05:56 paulwitty time to go to the bar?#
17:06:14 zeank :-P
17:06:22 zeank I'm still naked! *waiiiiit* :D
17:06:34 winfried NO DONT WAIT!
17:06:40 winfried :-D
17:06:45 zeank :-|
17:09:45 ralphm I'll be down in 2 min.
17:09:54 zeank woah
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