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Good morning.
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hi
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Is there already a broadcasting channel to join?
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We had a bit of a internet problem, everybody should be joining the next minutes
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are we doing notes somewhere
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If anyone wants to scribe, that'd be most appreciated
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Morning folks.
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Moin
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Good morning.
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I am doing something that comes close to being a scribe
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XSF Dinner Menu Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?usp=drive_web&formkey=dFJ5Q3N4Q1ZWT3B0aWhBcklnb002eEE6MA#gid=0
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bear: And we are grateful, thank you.
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is there a youtube broadcast or similar?
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http://stanza.io
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https://github.com/legastero/stanza.io
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ta
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http://otalk.im/
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Tobias: we're a little under-organized this year, even for us.
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hildjj, ahh...ok
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I forgot to bring my webcam, too
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http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daboo-aggregated-service-discovery-03
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Hey
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hi valerian
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Hi ;) Thanks for the invitation zeank
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hi :)
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Hi :)
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Any talk going on about JSJaC plugin system, zeank?
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no, that would be up to us I guess ;)
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FYI https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/demo (to get playing quickly)
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okay, let's discuss that after the summit then ;)
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yes :)
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Oh by the way we released Jappix One there, with full Jingle audio/video support :)
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If you guys want to test, it's all running on https://jappix.com/ + downloadable/forkable on https://github.com/jappix/jappix
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It's working great, just that we did not took time to handle restrictive NAT for now, with TURN servers
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(y)
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Speaking of volunteers, can I borrow a Dutch speaker down by the beanbags? :-)
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dave: ?
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https://join.tryacano.com/invited.sf?id=182834436
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please comment edit and change the http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2014 page make the projects intresting
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sorry to those that haven't been around for a long time. This part of the discussion is always hard to get into for newbies.
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We were talking about http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html before everything got super-meta.
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hildjj, Super-meta would be if I pointed out that the XSF had had a formal vote on what the best pizza was. (We decided "meat").
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http://www.dnspython.org/docs/1.10.0/html/dns.dnssec-module.html (posted in xsf muc)
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Kev, that link seems to require camera permissions...wonder if that's due to chromes maybe just returning no media if one denies camera
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Anyone here on this list: https://xmpp.net/reports.php#dnssecsrv
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?
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Tobias: yes, I believe that's the case
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Simon: Depends on your definition of "here" :)
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Tobias: you can mute your camera once you've joined
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paulwitty, thanks...but it crashes for me all the time
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Chrome does?
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the website...it reloads at some point
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stalling at Loading media
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what browser are you using?
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chrome
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Version 33.0.1750.46 beta
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hmm, that should be good
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I'm not in a good position here to be able to do much debugging of it
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bear, do you scribe in a public place?
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no sadly - I started doing this when the wifi was off
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ah..ok
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so it's a text file that I just put notes and comments into
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ah, the xsf way of discussing these issues is so ... well... yea, :)
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I'll take the video/audio link into the Summit down now, to stop it taking up our bandwidth
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if anyone remote wants it back (to join with WebRTC), let me know and I'll bring it back
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http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xmpp/current/msg03084.html
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To join the list:
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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp
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Is someone going to care if I post "just put a bunch of PEM encoded certificates in a file"
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Zash, does PEM allow commenting?
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Zash: feel free. The question at the moment is whether that doc is the *starting* point.
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If it's a plain text file with PEM certs in, and declare that anything between them are to be ignored.
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apparently, there's at least one person that wants comments.
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Warning: as chair, i'm likely to ask you to produce an ID if you're serious. :)
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ID... identification or Internet Draft?
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Internet Draft
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It's really quite easy if you start here: http://www.ipv.sx/draftr/
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Write Markdown, which then generates text and XML.
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Fancy
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What after that? As someone who has never submitted an ID, is there an overview of the process for first-timers?
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hang on. looking.
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while i'm looking, the next step is you submit the .txt and .xml here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/
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which does an email auth dance
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Is there a URL for the proposed whiteboarding XEP?
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MattJ, be careful in what you're getting into :)
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hildjj, thanks :)
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lloyd.watkin, somewhere around github.com/remko?
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lloyd.watkin: https://github.com/remko/xeps/blob/master/whiteboarding.md
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Regarding whiteboarding, does anyone know how this project is doing it? http://coccinella.im/
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"Planning to write an Internet Draft?"
http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=125
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thanks
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Thanks hildjj :)
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cool! shake and bake XMPP
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how's that compatible with cats?
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http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0132.html
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zeank: Internet of Cats
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:-P
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I just wonder how shaking is suitable for initiating a friendship request
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My cats don’t like it.
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Depends on the type of friendship you're after.
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lol
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It can include claws.
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you shake the cat and a lightbulb at the same time. Now, whenever the cat enters the room, the lights change to something complementary to its mood, and your stereo plays the cat's theme song.
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(y)
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Speaking of which, there was an action from last year I think to split XEP-0060
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Ash: ha ha.. yes
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Maybe worth picking up again tomorrow
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I know XEP-0060 fairly well, so would be happy to help with that
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Ash: this is my action point
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it just needs to be done
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:-)
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ralph, if ash is willing to take a first crack at it, maybe you could edit from there?
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forward progress > perfection
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Ash: would be great to do something about this soonish
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Yeah. Do we have the notes from the discussion last year?
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I think so, but let's chat for a few minutes
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:)
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I'd be interested in at least listening in.
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I’m in too.
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sounds awesome
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IoB.
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shall we arrange to meet at the hotel at some time to get food & beer?
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yes that would be good!
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is there a short-track-procedure for becoming a member when attending the summit?
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winks
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time to go to the bar?#
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:-P
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I'm still naked! *waiiiiit* :D
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NO DONT WAIT!
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:-D
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:-|
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I'll be down in 2 min.
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woah
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where did people end up?
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