XMPP Summit - 2014-01-30

Good morning.

hi

Is there already a broadcasting channel to join?

We had a bit of a internet problem, everybody should be joining the next minutes

are we doing notes somewhere

If anyone wants to scribe, that'd be most appreciated

Morning folks.

Moin

Good morning.

I am doing something that comes close to being a scribe

XSF Dinner Menu Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?usp=drive_web&formkey=dFJ5Q3N4Q1ZWT3B0aWhBcklnb002eEE6MA#gid=0

bear: And we are grateful, thank you.

is there a youtube broadcast or similar?

http://stanza.io

https://github.com/legastero/stanza.io

ta

http://otalk.im/

Tobias: we're a little under-organized this year, even for us.

hildjj, ahh...ok

I forgot to bring my webcam, too

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daboo-aggregated-service-discovery-03

Hey

hi valerian

Hi ;) Thanks for the invitation zeank

hi :)

Hi :)

Any talk going on about JSJaC plugin system, zeank?

no, that would be up to us I guess ;)

FYI https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/demo (to get playing quickly)

okay, let's discuss that after the summit then ;)

yes :)

Oh by the way we released Jappix One there, with full Jingle audio/video support :)

If you guys want to test, it's all running on https://jappix.com/ + downloadable/forkable on https://github.com/jappix/jappix

It's working great, just that we did not took time to handle restrictive NAT for now, with TURN servers

(y)

Speaking of volunteers, can I borrow a Dutch speaker down by the beanbags? :-)

dave: ?

https://join.tryacano.com/invited.sf?id=182834436

please comment edit and change the http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2014 page make the projects intresting

sorry to those that haven't been around for a long time. This part of the discussion is always hard to get into for newbies.

We were talking about http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html before everything got super-meta.

hildjj, Super-meta would be if I pointed out that the XSF had had a formal vote on what the best pizza was. (We decided "meat").

http://www.dnspython.org/docs/1.10.0/html/dns.dnssec-module.html (posted in xsf muc)

Kev, that link seems to require camera permissions...wonder if that's due to chromes maybe just returning no media if one denies camera

Anyone here on this list: https://xmpp.net/reports.php#dnssecsrv

?

Tobias: yes, I believe that's the case

Simon: Depends on your definition of "here" :)

Tobias: you can mute your camera once you've joined

paulwitty, thanks...but it crashes for me all the time

Chrome does?

the website...it reloads at some point

stalling at Loading media

what browser are you using?

chrome

Version 33.0.1750.46 beta

hmm, that should be good

I'm not in a good position here to be able to do much debugging of it

bear, do you scribe in a public place?

no sadly - I started doing this when the wifi was off

ah..ok

so it's a text file that I just put notes and comments into

ah, the xsf way of discussing these issues is so ... well... yea, :)

I'll take the video/audio link into the Summit down now, to stop it taking up our bandwidth

if anyone remote wants it back (to join with WebRTC), let me know and I'll bring it back

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xmpp/current/msg03084.html

To join the list:

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp

Is someone going to care if I post "just put a bunch of PEM encoded certificates in a file"

Zash, does PEM allow commenting?

Zash: feel free. The question at the moment is whether that doc is the *starting* point.

If it's a plain text file with PEM certs in, and declare that anything between them are to be ignored.

apparently, there's at least one person that wants comments.

Warning: as chair, i'm likely to ask you to produce an ID if you're serious. :)

ID... identification or Internet Draft?

Internet Draft

It's really quite easy if you start here: http://www.ipv.sx/draftr/

Write Markdown, which then generates text and XML.

Fancy

What after that? As someone who has never submitted an ID, is there an overview of the process for first-timers?

hang on. looking.

while i'm looking, the next step is you submit the .txt and .xml here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/

which does an email auth dance

Is there a URL for the proposed whiteboarding XEP?

MattJ, be careful in what you're getting into :)

hildjj, thanks :)

lloyd.watkin, somewhere around github.com/remko?

lloyd.watkin: https://github.com/remko/xeps/blob/master/whiteboarding.md

Regarding whiteboarding, does anyone know how this project is doing it? http://coccinella.im/

"Planning to write an Internet Draft?" http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=125

thanks

Thanks hildjj :)

cool! shake and bake XMPP

how's that compatible with cats?

http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0132.html

zeank: Internet of Cats

:-P

I just wonder how shaking is suitable for initiating a friendship request

My cats don’t like it.

Depends on the type of friendship you're after.

lol

It can include claws.

you shake the cat and a lightbulb at the same time. Now, whenever the cat enters the room, the lights change to something complementary to its mood, and your stereo plays the cat's theme song.

(y)

Speaking of which, there was an action from last year I think to split XEP-0060

Ash: ha ha.. yes

Maybe worth picking up again tomorrow

I know XEP-0060 fairly well, so would be happy to help with that

Ash: this is my action point

it just needs to be done

:-)

ralph, if ash is willing to take a first crack at it, maybe you could edit from there?

forward progress > perfection

Ash: would be great to do something about this soonish

Yeah. Do we have the notes from the discussion last year?

I think so, but let's chat for a few minutes

:)

I'd be interested in at least listening in.

I’m in too.

sounds awesome

IoB.

shall we arrange to meet at the hotel at some time to get food & beer?

yes that would be good!

is there a short-track-procedure for becoming a member when attending the summit?

time to go to the bar?#

:-P

I'm still naked! *waiiiiit* :D

NO DONT WAIT!

:-D

:-|

I'll be down in 2 min.

woah

where did people end up?