XMPP Summit - 2014-01-30


  1. simon.schwantzer

    Good morning.

  2. ralphm

    hi

  3. simon.schwantzer

    Is there already a broadcasting channel to join?

  4. winfried

    We had a bit of a internet problem, everybody should be joining the next minutes

  5. jabberjocke

    are we doing notes somewhere

  6. ralphm

    If anyone wants to scribe, that'd be most appreciated

  7. Dave Cridland

    Morning folks.

  8. intosi

    Moin

  9. simon.schwantzer

    Good morning.

  10. bear

    I am doing something that comes close to being a scribe

  11. Dave Cridland

    XSF Dinner Menu Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?usp=drive_web&formkey=dFJ5Q3N4Q1ZWT3B0aWhBcklnb002eEE6MA#gid=0

  12. Kev

    bear: And we are grateful, thank you.

  13. Tobias

    is there a youtube broadcast or similar?

  14. bear

    http://stanza.io

  15. hildjj

    https://github.com/legastero/stanza.io

  16. intosi

    ta

  17. intosi

    http://otalk.im/

  18. hildjj

    Tobias: we're a little under-organized this year, even for us.

  19. Tobias

    hildjj, ahh...ok

  20. ralphm

    I forgot to bring my webcam, too

  21. hildjj

    http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daboo-aggregated-service-discovery-03

  22. valerian

    Hey

  23. Tobias

    hi valerian

  24. valerian

    Hi ;) Thanks for the invitation zeank

  25. zeank

    hi :)

  26. valerian

    Hi :)

  27. valerian

    Any talk going on about JSJaC plugin system, zeank?

  28. zeank

    no, that would be up to us I guess ;)

  29. lloyd.watkin

    FYI https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/demo (to get playing quickly)

  30. valerian

    okay, let's discuss that after the summit then ;)

  31. zeank

    yes :)

  32. valerian

    Oh by the way we released Jappix One there, with full Jingle audio/video support :)

  33. valerian

    If you guys want to test, it's all running on https://jappix.com/ + downloadable/forkable on https://github.com/jappix/jappix

  34. valerian

    It's working great, just that we did not took time to handle restrictive NAT for now, with TURN servers

  35. zeank

    (y)

  36. Dave Cridland

    Speaking of volunteers, can I borrow a Dutch speaker down by the beanbags? :-)

  37. remko

    dave: ?

  38. Kev

    https://join.tryacano.com/invited.sf?id=182834436

  39. jabberjocke

    please comment edit and change the http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2014 page make the projects intresting

  40. hildjj

    sorry to those that haven't been around for a long time. This part of the discussion is always hard to get into for newbies.

  41. hildjj

    We were talking about http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html before everything got super-meta.

  42. Dave Cridland

    hildjj, Super-meta would be if I pointed out that the XSF had had a formal vote on what the best pizza was. (We decided "meat").

  43. bear

    http://www.dnspython.org/docs/1.10.0/html/dns.dnssec-module.html (posted in xsf muc)

  44. Tobias

    Kev, that link seems to require camera permissions...wonder if that's due to chromes maybe just returning no media if one denies camera

  45. Simon

    Anyone here on this list: https://xmpp.net/reports.php#dnssecsrv

  46. Simon

    ?

  47. paulwitty

    Tobias: yes, I believe that's the case

  48. Zash

    Simon: Depends on your definition of "here" :)

  49. paulwitty

    Tobias: you can mute your camera once you've joined

  50. Tobias

    paulwitty, thanks...but it crashes for me all the time

  51. paulwitty

    Chrome does?

  52. Tobias

    the website...it reloads at some point

  53. Tobias

    stalling at Loading media

  54. paulwitty

    what browser are you using?

  55. Tobias

    chrome

  56. Tobias

    Version 33.0.1750.46 beta

  57. paulwitty

    hmm, that should be good

  58. paulwitty

    I'm not in a good position here to be able to do much debugging of it

  59. Tobias

    bear, do you scribe in a public place?

  60. bear

    no sadly - I started doing this when the wifi was off

  61. Tobias

    ah..ok

  62. bear

    so it's a text file that I just put notes and comments into

  63. bear

    ah, the xsf way of discussing these issues is so ... well... yea, :)

  64. paulwitty

    I'll take the video/audio link into the Summit down now, to stop it taking up our bandwidth

  65. paulwitty

    if anyone remote wants it back (to join with WebRTC), let me know and I'll bring it back

  66. hildjj

    http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xmpp/current/msg03084.html

  67. hildjj

    To join the list:

  68. hildjj

    https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp

  69. Zash

    Is someone going to care if I post "just put a bunch of PEM encoded certificates in a file"

  70. Tobias

    Zash, does PEM allow commenting?

  71. hildjj

    Zash: feel free. The question at the moment is whether that doc is the *starting* point.

  72. Zash

    If it's a plain text file with PEM certs in, and declare that anything between them are to be ignored.

  73. hildjj

    apparently, there's at least one person that wants comments.

  74. hildjj

    Warning: as chair, i'm likely to ask you to produce an ID if you're serious. :)

  75. MattJ

    ID... identification or Internet Draft?

  76. hildjj

    Internet Draft

  77. hildjj

    It's really quite easy if you start here: http://www.ipv.sx/draftr/

  78. hildjj

    Write Markdown, which then generates text and XML.

  79. MattJ

    Fancy

  80. MattJ

    What after that? As someone who has never submitted an ID, is there an overview of the process for first-timers?

  81. hildjj

    hang on. looking.

  82. hildjj

    while i'm looking, the next step is you submit the .txt and .xml here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/

  83. hildjj

    which does an email auth dance

  84. lloyd.watkin

    Is there a URL for the proposed whiteboarding XEP?

  85. Tobias

    MattJ, be careful in what you're getting into :)

  86. MattJ

    hildjj, thanks :)

  87. Tobias

    lloyd.watkin, somewhere around github.com/remko?

  88. remko

    lloyd.watkin: https://github.com/remko/xeps/blob/master/whiteboarding.md

  89. Ash

    Regarding whiteboarding, does anyone know how this project is doing it? http://coccinella.im/

  90. hildjj

    "Planning to write an Internet Draft?" http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=125

  91. lloyd.watkin

    thanks

  92. MattJ

    Thanks hildjj :)

  93. Steffen Larsen

    cool! shake and bake XMPP

  94. zeank

    how's that compatible with cats?

  95. hildjj

    http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0132.html

  96. hildjj

    zeank: Internet of Cats

  97. zeank

    :-P

  98. zeank

    I just wonder how shaking is suitable for initiating a friendship request

  99. Link Mauve

    My cats don’t like it.

  100. intosi

    Depends on the type of friendship you're after.

  101. zeank

    lol

  102. Link Mauve

    It can include claws.

  103. hildjj

    you shake the cat and a lightbulb at the same time. Now, whenever the cat enters the room, the lights change to something complementary to its mood, and your stereo plays the cat's theme song.

  104. zeank

    (y)

  105. Ash

    Speaking of which, there was an action from last year I think to split XEP-0060

  106. Steffen Larsen

    Ash: ha ha.. yes

  107. Ash

    Maybe worth picking up again tomorrow

  108. Ash

    I know XEP-0060 fairly well, so would be happy to help with that

  109. ralphm

    Ash: this is my action point

  110. ralphm

    it just needs to be done

  111. ralphm

    :-)

  112. hildjj

    ralph, if ash is willing to take a first crack at it, maybe you could edit from there?

  113. hildjj

    forward progress > perfection

  114. ralphm

    Ash: would be great to do something about this soonish

  115. Ash

    Yeah. Do we have the notes from the discussion last year?

  116. ralphm

    I think so, but let's chat for a few minutes

  117. Ash

    :)

  118. intosi

    I'd be interested in at least listening in.

  119. Link Mauve

    I’m in too.

  120. ralphm

    sounds awesome

  121. hildjj

    IoB.

  122. paulwitty

    shall we arrange to meet at the hotel at some time to get food & beer?

  123. jabberjocke

    yes that would be good!

  124. Ge0rG

    is there a short-track-procedure for becoming a member when attending the summit?

  125. winfried winks

  126. paulwitty

    time to go to the bar?#

  127. zeank

    :-P

  128. zeank

    I'm still naked! *waiiiiit* :D

  129. winfried

    NO DONT WAIT!

  130. winfried

    :-D

  131. zeank

    :-|

  132. ralphm

    I'll be down in 2 min.

  133. zeank

    woah

  134. hildjj

    where did people end up?