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simon.schwantzer
Good morning.
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ralphm
hi
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simon.schwantzer
Is there already a broadcasting channel to join?
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winfried
We had a bit of a internet problem, everybody should be joining the next minutes
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jabberjocke
are we doing notes somewhere
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ralphm
If anyone wants to scribe, that'd be most appreciated
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Dave Cridland
Morning folks.
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intosi
Moin
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simon.schwantzer
Good morning.
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bear
I am doing something that comes close to being a scribe
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Dave Cridland
XSF Dinner Menu Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?usp=drive_web&formkey=dFJ5Q3N4Q1ZWT3B0aWhBcklnb002eEE6MA#gid=0
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Kev
bear: And we are grateful, thank you.
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Tobias
is there a youtube broadcast or similar?
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bear
http://stanza.io
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hildjj
https://github.com/legastero/stanza.io
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intosi
ta
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intosi
http://otalk.im/
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hildjj
Tobias: we're a little under-organized this year, even for us.
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Tobias
hildjj, ahh...ok
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ralphm
I forgot to bring my webcam, too
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hildjj
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daboo-aggregated-service-discovery-03
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valerian
Hey
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Tobias
hi valerian
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valerian
Hi ;) Thanks for the invitation zeank
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zeank
hi :)
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valerian
Hi :)
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valerian
Any talk going on about JSJaC plugin system, zeank?
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zeank
no, that would be up to us I guess ;)
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lloyd.watkin
FYI https://xmpp-ftw.jit.su/demo (to get playing quickly)
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valerian
okay, let's discuss that after the summit then ;)
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zeank
yes :)
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valerian
Oh by the way we released Jappix One there, with full Jingle audio/video support :)
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valerian
If you guys want to test, it's all running on https://jappix.com/ + downloadable/forkable on https://github.com/jappix/jappix
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valerian
It's working great, just that we did not took time to handle restrictive NAT for now, with TURN servers
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zeank
(y)
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Dave Cridland
Speaking of volunteers, can I borrow a Dutch speaker down by the beanbags? :-)
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remko
dave: ?
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Kev
https://join.tryacano.com/invited.sf?id=182834436
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jabberjocke
please comment edit and change the http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2014 page make the projects intresting
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hildjj
sorry to those that haven't been around for a long time. This part of the discussion is always hard to get into for newbies.
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hildjj
We were talking about http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html before everything got super-meta.
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Dave Cridland
hildjj, Super-meta would be if I pointed out that the XSF had had a formal vote on what the best pizza was. (We decided "meat").
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bear
http://www.dnspython.org/docs/1.10.0/html/dns.dnssec-module.html (posted in xsf muc)
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Tobias
Kev, that link seems to require camera permissions...wonder if that's due to chromes maybe just returning no media if one denies camera
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Simon
Anyone here on this list: https://xmpp.net/reports.php#dnssecsrv
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Simon
?
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paulwitty
Tobias: yes, I believe that's the case
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Zash
Simon: Depends on your definition of "here" :)
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paulwitty
Tobias: you can mute your camera once you've joined
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Tobias
paulwitty, thanks...but it crashes for me all the time
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paulwitty
Chrome does?
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Tobias
the website...it reloads at some point
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Tobias
stalling at Loading media
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paulwitty
what browser are you using?
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Tobias
chrome
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Tobias
Version 33.0.1750.46 beta
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paulwitty
hmm, that should be good
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paulwitty
I'm not in a good position here to be able to do much debugging of it
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Tobias
bear, do you scribe in a public place?
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bear
no sadly - I started doing this when the wifi was off
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Tobias
ah..ok
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bear
so it's a text file that I just put notes and comments into
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bear
ah, the xsf way of discussing these issues is so ... well... yea, :)
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paulwitty
I'll take the video/audio link into the Summit down now, to stop it taking up our bandwidth
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paulwitty
if anyone remote wants it back (to join with WebRTC), let me know and I'll bring it back
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hildjj
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xmpp/current/msg03084.html
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hildjj
To join the list:
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hildjj
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp
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Zash
Is someone going to care if I post "just put a bunch of PEM encoded certificates in a file"
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Tobias
Zash, does PEM allow commenting?
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hildjj
Zash: feel free. The question at the moment is whether that doc is the *starting* point.
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Zash
If it's a plain text file with PEM certs in, and declare that anything between them are to be ignored.
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hildjj
apparently, there's at least one person that wants comments.
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hildjj
Warning: as chair, i'm likely to ask you to produce an ID if you're serious. :)
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MattJ
ID... identification or Internet Draft?
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hildjj
Internet Draft
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hildjj
It's really quite easy if you start here: http://www.ipv.sx/draftr/
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hildjj
Write Markdown, which then generates text and XML.
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MattJ
Fancy
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MattJ
What after that? As someone who has never submitted an ID, is there an overview of the process for first-timers?
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hildjj
hang on. looking.
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hildjj
while i'm looking, the next step is you submit the .txt and .xml here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/
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hildjj
which does an email auth dance
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lloyd.watkin
Is there a URL for the proposed whiteboarding XEP?
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Tobias
MattJ, be careful in what you're getting into :)
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MattJ
hildjj, thanks :)
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Tobias
lloyd.watkin, somewhere around github.com/remko?
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remko
lloyd.watkin: https://github.com/remko/xeps/blob/master/whiteboarding.md
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Ash
Regarding whiteboarding, does anyone know how this project is doing it? http://coccinella.im/
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hildjj
"Planning to write an Internet Draft?" http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=125
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lloyd.watkin
thanks
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MattJ
Thanks hildjj :)
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Steffen Larsen
cool! shake and bake XMPP
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zeank
how's that compatible with cats?
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hildjj
http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0132.html
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hildjj
zeank: Internet of Cats
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zeank
:-P
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zeank
I just wonder how shaking is suitable for initiating a friendship request
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Link Mauve
My cats don’t like it.
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intosi
Depends on the type of friendship you're after.
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zeank
lol
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Link Mauve
It can include claws.
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hildjj
you shake the cat and a lightbulb at the same time. Now, whenever the cat enters the room, the lights change to something complementary to its mood, and your stereo plays the cat's theme song.
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zeank
(y)
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Ash
Speaking of which, there was an action from last year I think to split XEP-0060
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Steffen Larsen
Ash: ha ha.. yes
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Ash
Maybe worth picking up again tomorrow
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Ash
I know XEP-0060 fairly well, so would be happy to help with that
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ralphm
Ash: this is my action point
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ralphm
it just needs to be done
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ralphm
:-)
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hildjj
ralph, if ash is willing to take a first crack at it, maybe you could edit from there?
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hildjj
forward progress > perfection
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ralphm
Ash: would be great to do something about this soonish
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Ash
Yeah. Do we have the notes from the discussion last year?
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ralphm
I think so, but let's chat for a few minutes
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Ash
:)
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intosi
I'd be interested in at least listening in.
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Link Mauve
I’m in too.
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ralphm
sounds awesome
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hildjj
IoB.
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paulwitty
shall we arrange to meet at the hotel at some time to get food & beer?
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jabberjocke
yes that would be good!
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Ge0rG
is there a short-track-procedure for becoming a member when attending the summit?
- winfried winks
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paulwitty
time to go to the bar?#
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zeank
:-P
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zeank
I'm still naked! *waiiiiit* :D
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winfried
NO DONT WAIT!
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winfried
:-D
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zeank
:-|
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ralphm
I'll be down in 2 min.
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zeank
woah
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hildjj
where did people end up?