goffidebacle: yes I know, and first one is really early when everybody will be partying the night before :-/
debaclegoffi, very good: people will party til 9, then they go to your talk and then they will sleep
debacleand dream of SàT
goffiah ah
debacleThere are also some M.A.T.R.I.X. related talks:
Saturday 14:00 Matrix in the French State
Saturday 16:15 Displaying other Application data into a Wiki
Sunday 10:40 Breaking the 100 bits per second barrier with Matrix
Link Mauve100 bits per second? :|
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debacleProbably some kind of joke.
oli100 bits per second, try that with XMPP ...
debacleOT, again: Can somebody please make an XMPP enabled version of ConfClerk? It's nice that I mark the talks I like to see, but it would be much nicer, if I could share my selection with my colleagues, so that we can coordinate ourselves.
olidebacle: not a joke
oli"Matrix has always theoretically supported alternative transports, and we finally got an excuse to build one and push it to a ludicrous extreme - to try to operate usably over links as low as 100bps, as high as 4s latency, and up to 40% jitter"
debacleoli, with XMPP it's: <bit role="mostsignificantbit">1</bit> etc.
Link Mauvedebacle, ITYM https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0239.html
oli"Meet COI (Chat over IMAP) - a powerful contender for WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and other proprietary messengers."
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oli> “What about XMPP and Matrix.org?” – glad you asked! We love XMPP and Matrix.org because they provide a great solution – this only solves the problem in theory though. With XMPP and Matrix.org-based services you would still need to convince everyone to join your new network. Easy in theory, very complex in practice!
ZashChat over email also sounds nice in theory. But in practice... good luck.
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Link MauveThere was already DeltaChat which attempted something similar.
Link MauveA comrade of mine is a proponent of it, but I haven’t heard any sound argument so far.
oliZash: it's chat over imap, might be without the smtp stuff
olii don't know
oliif this involves full blown email shit, good look in convincing people to install their own servers.
Zasholi: then you're in extension hell. enjoy.
oliemail is hell
Zashcan you submit email over imap yet?
oliZash: yes and no, no standard for this
olibut workarounds that work
ZashWasn't there an extension?
olimaybe
ZashAnd then there's the crowd trying to kill IMAP and replace it with JSON and HTTP
olijmap
Zashyes
oliit's quite cool
ZashNo
olianyway, the speaker's company is developing the dovecot imap server.
oliZash: JMAP has a better design than IMAP in my oppinion
oliWe should ask the fastmail guys how to do chat over it 😂
pep."debacle> There is also a talk about OTR4", probably similar to the one at CCC?
