debacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown
Zash
Or message ids
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melvo
> debacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown
Do you know the reason for not using MAM here?
Zash
Becasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade
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Tobias
ralphm: I wonder if epics XMPP problems are just due to implementation issues or whether there are possible protocol changes to XMPP, that could improve things for them
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ralphm
Maybe, but I mostly liked the fact that they've written better copy to promote XMPP than we have, in a post-mortem
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Tobias
Ahh
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Zash
Haha
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> Becasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade
how can we make this happen?
mathieui
Alex: MattJ plans to upgrade xmpp.org soon-ish
MattJ
Yeeeeah
MattJ
I was going to do it today but I don't think I will
MattJ
Internet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down
MattJ
Feels like the worst possible time to do it :)
MattJ
Maybe next weekend or something
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ralphm
I suggest picking a date that doesn't coincide with Council, Board meetings, announce it, and then just do it.
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mathieui
pep., donβt forget to speak loud because even though there are microphones, they are only for recording
pep.
*no pressure*
mathieui
no pressure at all
mathieui
I can clap at the end of each sentence if you want
mathieui
(seriously though, the sound in this room is quite bad)
mathieui
everything is lost if someone opens the door or pulls a tablet
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melvo
> Yeeeeah
> I was going to do it today but I don't think I will
> Internet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down
> Feels like the worst possible time to do it :)
> Maybe next weekend or something
Thanks.
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vanitasvitae
Good bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit!
I hope you'll all get home safe.
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alameyo
does anyone missing a bag?
Guus
> Good bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit!
> I hope you'll all get home safe.
Likewise!
Guus
I am already battling cancelled trains. π
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jonasβ
oh dear
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Guus
Found an alternative.
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Zash
Snow chaosbin Sweden apparently, nodes well for the flight home
Zash
SNOW CHAOS!!!
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mathieui
Mine is not cancelled yet
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MattJ
Pizza π
Zash
Time?
MattJ
We just arrived, but the Cisco delegation are not here just yet
Zash
At the place?
MattJ
Yes
ralphm
We're there at 18:52.
MattJ
Ack π
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I'm going to rest a bit and then decide where to eat
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Zash
Seems to take a few minutes by bus to get there. Why have I been walking everywhere?
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MattJ
You can blame me if you want
Zash
Also tram line straight from outside this hotel to ULB and I walked through the rain and snow
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyemQTRW0AEHB2j.jpg
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Link Mauve
β16:09:35 mathieui> They did say that they did not want to run an xmpp server
16:10:49 mathieui> but then they apparently considered writing a matrix server for some reason, since a matrix developer had to advise against thatβ, IIRC from talking with NextCloud people, they wanted to NIH absolutely everything that wasnβt already written in PHP.
Link Mauve
Except for LibreOffice it seems.
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flow
It was again very nice to meet you all. Especially thanks to the ppl running the booth and to everyone did a talk.
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Syndace
Yes it was an amazing first Summit + FOSDEM, thank you all!
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π
Alex
π
Link Mauve
Yup, thanks all!
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Link Mauve, let's write an XMPP server in PHP. Someone. Not me.
mathieui
π
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debacle
I didn't make it to the talk about Matrix over an 100 bit/s channel, but I've been told, that it was very good. Reminds me of XEP-0365. Is that in use?
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alameyo
they did use Constrained Application Protocol rfc7252 and changed TLS to Noise encryption protocol, I don't know yet xep365 so I can't compare