XMPP Summit - 2019-02-03

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08:23:07 debacle Tobias, did you say "True" twice? Because I see it twice in Gajim. With four seconds distance.
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08:29:50 MattJ He said it once
08:30:01 Zash Looks like once in the log: http://logs.xmpp.org/summit/2019-02-02/#22:47:33
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08:36:13 debacle XMPP is borked.
08:39:11 debacle I see his true at 22:47:33, but also four seconds before, 22:47:29. Can Gajim look into the future? But only four seconds?
08:40:31 debacle should become an XMPP based stock broker. In four seconds to wealth.
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08:51:53 ralphm dwd: https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/postmortem-of-service-outage-at-3-4m-ccu
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08:54:14 MattJ debacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown
08:56:29 Zash Or message ids
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09:58:55 melvo > debacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown Do you know the reason for not using MAM here?
10:00:13 Zash Becasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade
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10:18:32 Tobias ralphm: I wonder if epics XMPP problems are just due to implementation issues or whether there are possible protocol changes to XMPP, that could improve things for them
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10:39:32 ralphm Maybe, but I mostly liked the fact that they've written better copy to promote XMPP than we have, in a post-mortem
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10:41:55 Tobias Ahh
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11:17:35 Alex > Becasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade how can we make this happen?
11:26:16 mathieui Alex: MattJ plans to upgrade xmpp.org soon-ish
11:30:44 MattJ Yeeeeah
11:30:52 MattJ I was going to do it today but I don't think I will
11:31:09 MattJ Internet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down
11:31:15 MattJ Feels like the worst possible time to do it :)
11:31:24 MattJ Maybe next weekend or something
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13:01:11 ralphm I suggest picking a date that doesn't coincide with Council, Board meetings, announce it, and then just do it.
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14:49:45 mathieui pep., don’t forget to speak loud because even though there are microphones, they are only for recording
14:50:54 pep. *no pressure*
14:50:59 mathieui no pressure at all
14:51:07 mathieui I can clap at the end of each sentence if you want
14:51:53 mathieui (seriously though, the sound in this room is quite bad)
14:52:16 mathieui everything is lost if someone opens the door or pulls a tablet
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16:14:16 melvo > Yeeeeah > I was going to do it today but I don't think I will > Internet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down > Feels like the worst possible time to do it :) > Maybe next weekend or something Thanks.
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16:27:04 vanitasvitae Good bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit! I hope you'll all get home safe.
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16:46:08 alameyo does anyone missing a bag?
16:46:41 Guus > Good bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit! > I hope you'll all get home safe. Likewise!
16:47:07 Guus I am already battling cancelled trains. 😃
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16:47:39 jonas’ oh dear
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16:53:54 Guus Found an alternative.
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17:02:51 Zash Snow chaosbin Sweden apparently, nodes well for the flight home
17:03:37 Zash SNOW CHAOS!!!
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17:07:40 mathieui Mine is not cancelled yet
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17:42:03 MattJ Pizza 🍕
17:42:48 Zash Time?
17:43:21 MattJ We just arrived, but the Cisco delegation are not here just yet
17:43:36 Zash At the place?
17:44:08 MattJ Yes
17:44:31 ralphm We're there at 18:52.
17:45:13 MattJ Ack 👍
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17:47:00 Zash I'm going to rest a bit and then decide where to eat
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17:51:58 Zash Seems to take a few minutes by bus to get there. Why have I been walking everywhere?
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17:52:40 MattJ You can blame me if you want
17:53:45 Zash Also tram line straight from outside this hotel to ULB and I walked through the rain and snow
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18:23:50 Zash https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyemQTRW0AEHB2j.jpg
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19:59:01 Link Mauve “16:09:35 mathieui> They did say that they did not want to run an xmpp server 16:10:49 mathieui> but then they apparently considered writing a matrix server for some reason, since a matrix developer had to advise against that”, IIRC from talking with NextCloud people, they wanted to NIH absolutely everything that wasn’t already written in PHP.
19:59:06 Link Mauve Except for LibreOffice it seems.
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20:22:05 flow It was again very nice to meet you all. Especially thanks to the ppl running the booth and to everyone did a talk.
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20:25:32 Syndace Yes it was an amazing first Summit + FOSDEM, thank you all!
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20:25:45 Zash 👍
20:26:03 Alex 👍
20:32:03 Link Mauve Yup, thanks all!
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21:23:06 debacle Link Mauve, let's write an XMPP server in PHP. Someone. Not me.
21:23:18 mathieui 👍
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21:29:30 debacle I didn't make it to the talk about Matrix over an 100 bit/s channel, but I've been told, that it was very good. Reminds me of XEP-0365. Is that in use?
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21:35:21 alameyo they did use Constrained Application Protocol rfc7252 and changed TLS to Noise encryption protocol, I don't know yet xep365 so I can't compare
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21:46:56 debacle interesting!
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22:22:57 melvo Thanks for all the interesting discussions.
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