MattJdebacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown
ZashOr message ids
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melvo> debacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown
Do you know the reason for not using MAM here?
ZashBecasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade
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Tobiasralphm: I wonder if epics XMPP problems are just due to implementation issues or whether there are possible protocol changes to XMPP, that could improve things for them
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ralphmMaybe, but I mostly liked the fact that they've written better copy to promote XMPP than we have, in a post-mortem
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TobiasAhh
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Alex> Becasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade
how can we make this happen?
mathieuiAlex: MattJ plans to upgrade xmpp.org soon-ish
MattJYeeeeah
MattJI was going to do it today but I don't think I will
MattJInternet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down
MattJFeels like the worst possible time to do it :)
MattJMaybe next weekend or something
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ralphmI suggest picking a date that doesn't coincide with Council, Board meetings, announce it, and then just do it.
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mathieuipep., donβt forget to speak loud because even though there are microphones, they are only for recording
pep.*no pressure*
mathieuino pressure at all
mathieuiI can clap at the end of each sentence if you want
mathieui(seriously though, the sound in this room is quite bad)
mathieuieverything is lost if someone opens the door or pulls a tablet
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melvo> Yeeeeah
> I was going to do it today but I don't think I will
> Internet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down
> Feels like the worst possible time to do it :)
> Maybe next weekend or something
Thanks.
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vanitasvitaeGood bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit!
I hope you'll all get home safe.
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alameyodoes anyone missing a bag?
Guus> Good bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit!
> I hope you'll all get home safe.
Likewise!
GuusI am already battling cancelled trains. π
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jonasβoh dear
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GuusFound an alternative.
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ZashSnow chaosbin Sweden apparently, nodes well for the flight home
ZashSNOW CHAOS!!!
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mathieuiMine is not cancelled yet
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MattJPizza π
ZashTime?
MattJWe just arrived, but the Cisco delegation are not here just yet
ZashAt the place?
MattJYes
ralphmWe're there at 18:52.
MattJAck π
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ZashI'm going to rest a bit and then decide where to eat
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ZashSeems to take a few minutes by bus to get there. Why have I been walking everywhere?
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MattJYou can blame me if you want
ZashAlso tram line straight from outside this hotel to ULB and I walked through the rain and snow
Link Mauveβ16:09:35 mathieui> They did say that they did not want to run an xmpp server
16:10:49 mathieui> but then they apparently considered writing a matrix server for some reason, since a matrix developer had to advise against thatβ, IIRC from talking with NextCloud people, they wanted to NIH absolutely everything that wasnβt already written in PHP.
Link MauveExcept for LibreOffice it seems.
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flowIt was again very nice to meet you all. Especially thanks to the ppl running the booth and to everyone did a talk.
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SyndaceYes it was an amazing first Summit + FOSDEM, thank you all!
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Alexπ
Link MauveYup, thanks all!
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debacleLink Mauve, let's write an XMPP server in PHP. Someone. Not me.
mathieuiπ
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debacleI didn't make it to the talk about Matrix over an 100 bit/s channel, but I've been told, that it was very good. Reminds me of XEP-0365. Is that in use?
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alameyothey did use Constrained Application Protocol rfc7252 and changed TLS to Noise encryption protocol, I don't know yet xep365 so I can't compare