XMPP Summit - 2019-02-03

Tobias, did you say "True" twice? Because I see it twice in Gajim. With four seconds distance.

He said it once

Looks like once in the log: http://logs.xmpp.org/summit/2019-02-02/#22:47:33

XMPP is borked.

I see his true at 22:47:33, but also four seconds before, 22:47:29. Can Gajim look into the future? But only four seconds?

dwd: https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/postmortem-of-service-outage-at-3-4m-ccu

debacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown

Or message ids

> debacle: This room doesn't have MAM (yet), and the alternative is to hack it with timestamps, which sometimes causes duplicates to be shown Do you know the reason for not using MAM here?

Becasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade

ralphm: I wonder if epics XMPP problems are just due to implementation issues or whether there are possible protocol changes to XMPP, that could improve things for them

Maybe, but I mostly liked the fact that they've written better copy to promote XMPP than we have, in a post-mortem

Ahh

Haha

> Becasue nobody gave me admin access so I could update Prosody to features from this decade how can we make this happen?

Alex: MattJ plans to upgrade xmpp.org soon-ish

Yeeeeah

I was going to do it today but I don't think I will

Internet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down

Feels like the worst possible time to do it :)

Maybe next weekend or something

I suggest picking a date that doesn't coincide with Council, Board meetings, announce it, and then just do it.

pep., don’t forget to speak loud because even though there are microphones, they are only for recording

*no pressure*

no pressure at all

I can clap at the end of each sentence if you want

(seriously though, the sound in this room is quite bad)

everything is lost if someone opens the door or pulls a tablet

> Yeeeeah > I was going to do it today but I don't think I will > Internet is super slow, and e.g. this room will go down > Feels like the worst possible time to do it :) > Maybe next weekend or something Thanks.

Good bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit! I hope you'll all get home safe.

does anyone missing a bag?

> Good bye and thanks to everyone who was at the summit! > I hope you'll all get home safe. Likewise!

I am already battling cancelled trains. 😃

oh dear

Found an alternative.

Snow chaosbin Sweden apparently, nodes well for the flight home

SNOW CHAOS!!!

Mine is not cancelled yet

Pizza 🍕

Time?

We just arrived, but the Cisco delegation are not here just yet

At the place?

Yes

We're there at 18:52.

Ack 👍

I'm going to rest a bit and then decide where to eat

Seems to take a few minutes by bus to get there. Why have I been walking everywhere?

You can blame me if you want

Also tram line straight from outside this hotel to ULB and I walked through the rain and snow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyemQTRW0AEHB2j.jpg

“16:09:35 mathieui> They did say that they did not want to run an xmpp server 16:10:49 mathieui> but then they apparently considered writing a matrix server for some reason, since a matrix developer had to advise against that”, IIRC from talking with NextCloud people, they wanted to NIH absolutely everything that wasn’t already written in PHP.

Except for LibreOffice it seems.

It was again very nice to meet you all. Especially thanks to the ppl running the booth and to everyone did a talk.

Yes it was an amazing first Summit + FOSDEM, thank you all!

👍

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Yup, thanks all!

Link Mauve, let's write an XMPP server in PHP. Someone. Not me.

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I didn't make it to the talk about Matrix over an 100 bit/s channel, but I've been told, that it was very good. Reminds me of XEP-0365. Is that in use?

they did use Constrained Application Protocol rfc7252 and changed TLS to Noise encryption protocol, I don't know yet xep365 so I can't compare

interesting!

Thanks for all the interesting discussions.