I'm sorry I don't recognize your nick, are a user? dev? operator? allofit? :)
pep.
We're going to discuss specifications. Issues with some of the existing ones, new ideas (and getting input from others), etc.
pep.
Maybe show-casing specific implementations etc..
pep.
The target public is mostly developers, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily all developers, maybe also directions etc. where does the XSF want to go (that's a big maybe?)
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moparisthebest
Am I missing the time the summit starts on https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Conferences/Summit_24 ? I plan on joining the WebEx some
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https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/summit/2020-January/001927.html says 10, I assume CET ? What about Friday?
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pep.
moparisthebest: should be about the same I think
pep.
Guus: at what time can we infiltrate the venue?
pep.
I'm arriving at 8:30 at Brussel north, I might go there right away
pep.
moparisthebest: and yes CET
moparisthebest
Thanks pep. !
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Guus
I don't know how late it opens. I'm assuming 8:30 is fine
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We will start around 10, yes
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yo, I’m here
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(remotely, that is)
Guus
You're a tad early.
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pep.
Reminds me of JC at our sprint in Cambridge. he was early and there was TZ lag :p
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Alex
who is taking the train from the Thon hotel?
when should we meet in the lobby to walk to the station?
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MattJ
Sure, what time?
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kingu
pep.: I am a linguist, have tried to improved the clients I am aware of. Maybe you could send any draft specifications to me, and I could try to find improvements from here (Brussels Rue de Trone if anyone wants to come visit)
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MattJ
There's a 9:30 train from the station about 10min walk from Thon
kingu
I also do some UI and design, which I saw there was a planned discussion for
Holger
Still nobody at the airport right now I guess?
kingu
pep.: I think you might have met me at the first GPG conf
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kingu: topics get decided on the day. If you want to have a peek you might have to ask Guus first to see if you can still get in the venue :)
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Guus
I'm actually back to bed. I don't feel to well.
Guus
Please coordinate with Ralph
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Guus: D'oh, what a timing 😱 Word snel beter!
Guus
Tx
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Alex
let's meet at 9 in the lobby
jonas’
I wish for a summit where nobody has to stay at home/hotel for sickness :(
jonas’
get well soon, Guus
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flow
I assume the topic will be updated once a pad for the 2020 summit has been established?
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jonas’
and A/V please
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MattJ
It's being worked on
jonas’
as usual :)
pep.
jonas’ / remote people, any topics to propose?
jonas’
pep., "How to get A/V ready"? ;)
pep.
heh
jonas’
I’d be interested in discussion smart MAM and Inbox related things
Speaking of UX, what on earth do these symbols me?
MattJ
Ok, I can guess most, but... the middle one?
MattJ
*mean
Zash
Blurrycam?
Tobias
they mean you should try to get a steady hand
Kev
Cooled, as it comes, fizzy?
MattJ
Oh yeah, blurrier than it looked when I took it
Kev
Yes, I assumed the water cooler itself wasn't blurry.
jonas’
so I’m not getting audio or video from the room, only from other non-muted guests
Kev
Just because the water cooler didn't look blurry to you, doesn't mean that the photo won't be if you're in the middle of playing rugby with the camera while taking it. 😂
jonas’
aha, I get the dreaded "video not available due to local computer conditions"
jonas’
I now get audio, but it’s reaaaaly hard to understand
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MattJ
There is no central discussion happening right now, maybe why?
jonas’
ok
MattJ
Can you hear Dave?
jonas’
maybe
Tobias
yes
jonas’
I don’t recognize the voices, and it’s hard to understand
Tobias
but we can't see the topics
jonas’
that too
Tobias
jonas’, it's dave talking
MattJ
I sent a photo with the topics
Tobias
MattJ, indeed you did :)
MattJ
Not the blurry one
Tobias
ta
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Can you remotes hear Kev?
Tobias
yes
jonas’
yes
goffi
Hi, so webex is working? for me it's telling on Firefox that I should download the app on an other OS (may be due to my extensions), and on Chromium it's telling me that the meeting will be started when the organiser will arrive :-/
Zash
Works here
jonas’
goffi, you need to use the link from the wikip age
Intosi, not sure if it’s a luxury, the audio is hard to understand without headphones sometimes :)
Intosi
This is true in the room as well ;)
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goffi
I've never used Whatsapp, or Instagram, it's difficult to follow the discussion about what they are doing.
ralphm
XEP-0060 already defines a pubsub#item_expire node config option.
ralphm
Kev ^
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of course it does
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goffi
Enjoy your meal. Can you ping on this room when it starts again?
jonas’
yes please
jonas’
I didn’t even notice you were going to lunch :D
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vanitasvitae
Remarks from the internet regarding the status topic:
> @vanitasvitae fix me if I wrong, but statuses are describes statuses of recourses, not device. Currently, if desktop client is "away" and phone status is "online", you will see both statuses simultaneously. I do not see any issues here
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vanitasvitae
Actually I have one more topic that we could talk about: An Entity Capabilities equivalent with support for offline devices.
"The id of the message is the ID from the MAM archive and NOT the id used by the sender."
dwd@dave.cridland.net
moparisthebest, We actually have two different items here. This is "MIX - When?"
flow
I'd really love to see the annotations in a common specified container element, akin to what was discussed wrt bookmarks. Something like:
<item jid='romeo@example.net'>
<server-annotation xmlns='jabber:iq:roster:annotation'>
<channel xmlns='urn:xmpp:mix:roster:0' participant-id='123456'/>
<identity xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'
category='conference' type='mix'/>
</server-annotation>
</item>
flow
Then we could potentially even get rid of the extension of the standard roster request with <annotate xmlns='urn:xmpp:mix:roster:0'/>
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For the XSF Dinner, please gather at 19:15 CET in the lobby of Hotel Thon EU.
moparisthebest
got it thanks dwd@dave.cridland.net !
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vanitasvitae
Thon Hotel was Rue de LA Loi 75 right?
Kev
Sounds at least approximately right.
Guus
It is
Guus
Near Maelbeek metro station
vanitasvitae
Yeah I just noticed that Maalbeek would have been closer :P