kingupep.: I hope it is similar to the ones at CCC
pep.Not it's a bit different
pep.I'm sorry I don't recognize your nick, are a user? dev? operator? allofit? :)
pep.We're going to discuss specifications. Issues with some of the existing ones, new ideas (and getting input from others), etc.
pep.Maybe show-casing specific implementations etc..
pep.The target public is mostly developers, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily all developers, maybe also directions etc. where does the XSF want to go (that's a big maybe?)
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moparisthebestAm I missing the time the summit starts on https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Conferences/Summit_24 ? I plan on joining the WebEx some
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moparisthebesthttps://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/summit/2020-January/001927.html says 10, I assume CET ? What about Friday?
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pep.moparisthebest: should be about the same I think
pep.Guus: at what time can we infiltrate the venue?
pep.I'm arriving at 8:30 at Brussel north, I might go there right away
pep.moparisthebest: and yes CET
moparisthebestThanks pep. !
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GuusI don't know how late it opens. I'm assuming 8:30 is fine
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GuusWe will start around 10, yes
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jonas’yo, I’m here
jonas’(remotely, that is)
GuusYou're a tad early.
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pep.Reminds me of JC at our sprint in Cambridge. he was early and there was TZ lag :p
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Alexwho is taking the train from the Thon hotel?
when should we meet in the lobby to walk to the station?
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MattJSure, what time?
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kingupep.: I am a linguist, have tried to improved the clients I am aware of. Maybe you could send any draft specifications to me, and I could try to find improvements from here (Brussels Rue de Trone if anyone wants to come visit)
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MattJThere's a 9:30 train from the station about 10min walk from Thon
kinguI also do some UI and design, which I saw there was a planned discussion for
HolgerStill nobody at the airport right now I guess?
kingupep.: I think you might have met me at the first GPG conf
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pep.kingu: topics get decided on the day. If you want to have a peek you might have to ask Guus first to see if you can still get in the venue :)
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GuusI'm actually back to bed. I don't feel to well.
GuusPlease coordinate with Ralph
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HolgerGuus: D'oh, what a timing 😱 Word snel beter!
GuusTx
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Alexlet's meet at 9 in the lobby
jonas’I wish for a summit where nobody has to stay at home/hotel for sickness :(
jonas’get well soon, Guus
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flowI assume the topic will be updated once a pad for the 2020 summit has been established?
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jonas’and A/V please
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MattJIt's being worked on
jonas’as usual :)
pep.jonas’ / remote people, any topics to propose?
jonas’pep., "How to get A/V ready"? ;)
pep.heh
jonas’I’d be interested in discussion smart MAM and Inbox related things
MattJSpeaking of UX, what on earth do these symbols me?
MattJOk, I can guess most, but... the middle one?
MattJ*mean
ZashBlurrycam?
Tobiasthey mean you should try to get a steady hand
KevCooled, as it comes, fizzy?
MattJOh yeah, blurrier than it looked when I took it
KevYes, I assumed the water cooler itself wasn't blurry.
jonas’so I’m not getting audio or video from the room, only from other non-muted guests
KevJust because the water cooler didn't look blurry to you, doesn't mean that the photo won't be if you're in the middle of playing rugby with the camera while taking it. 😂
jonas’aha, I get the dreaded "video not available due to local computer conditions"
jonas’I now get audio, but it’s reaaaaly hard to understand
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MattJThere is no central discussion happening right now, maybe why?
jonas’ok
MattJCan you hear Dave?
jonas’maybe
Tobias yes
jonas’I don’t recognize the voices, and it’s hard to understand
Tobiasbut we can't see the topics
jonas’that too
Tobiasjonas’, it's dave talking
MattJI sent a photo with the topics
TobiasMattJ, indeed you did :)
MattJNot the blurry one
Tobiasta
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ralphmCan you remotes hear Kev?
Tobiasyes
jonas’yes
goffiHi, so webex is working? for me it's telling on Firefox that I should download the app on an other OS (may be due to my extensions), and on Chromium it's telling me that the meeting will be started when the organiser will arrive :-/
ZashWorks here
jonas’goffi, you need to use the link from the wikip age
jonas’Intosi, not sure if it’s a luxury, the audio is hard to understand without headphones sometimes :)
IntosiThis is true in the room as well ;)
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goffiI've never used Whatsapp, or Instagram, it's difficult to follow the discussion about what they are doing.
ralphmXEP-0060 already defines a pubsub#item_expire node config option.
ralphmKev ^
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jonas’of course it does
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goffiEnjoy your meal. Can you ping on this room when it starts again?
jonas’yes please
jonas’I didn’t even notice you were going to lunch :D
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vanitasvitaeRemarks from the internet regarding the status topic:
> @vanitasvitae fix me if I wrong, but statuses are describes statuses of recourses, not device. Currently, if desktop client is "away" and phone status is "online", you will see both statuses simultaneously. I do not see any issues here
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vanitasvitaeActually I have one more topic that we could talk about: An Entity Capabilities equivalent with support for offline devices.
jonas’Account Capabilities?
jonas’I recall that this was discussed in past events.
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Zashpublish disco#info to PEP?
jonas’what about stale devices?
jonas’oh, I learnt about pubsub#item_expire today ;)
hantu.sc"The id of the message is the ID from the MAM archive and NOT the id used by the sender."
dwd@dave.cridland.netmoparisthebest, We actually have two different items here. This is "MIX - When?"
flowI'd really love to see the annotations in a common specified container element, akin to what was discussed wrt bookmarks. Something like:
<item jid='romeo@example.net'>
<server-annotation xmlns='jabber:iq:roster:annotation'>
<channel xmlns='urn:xmpp:mix:roster:0' participant-id='123456'/>
<identity xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'
category='conference' type='mix'/>
</server-annotation>
</item>
flowThen we could potentially even get rid of the extension of the standard roster request with <annotate xmlns='urn:xmpp:mix:roster:0'/>
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ralphmFor the XSF Dinner, please gather at 19:15 CET in the lobby of Hotel Thon EU.
moparisthebestgot it thanks dwd@dave.cridland.net !
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vanitasvitaeThon Hotel was Rue de LA Loi 75 right?
KevSounds at least approximately right.
GuusIt is
GuusNear Maelbeek metro station
vanitasvitaeYeah I just noticed that Maalbeek would have been closer :P