XMPP Summit - 2020-02-03


  1. MattJ

    Ah yes, thanks pep. for all your effort on the minutes :)

  2. MattJ

    And vanitasvitae for being our fediverse presence - it really helps

  3. Steven Roose

    > And vanitasvitae for being our fediverse presence - it really helps 🙏

  4. Alex

    Was a great and very productive summit. Also very good conversations and feedback at FOSDEM. Thanks to everyone attending and helping at FOSDEM 👍

  5. ralphm

    What Alex said!

  6. jonas’

    +1

  7. jonas’

    also, I’m now garbage collecting this room to reclaim some space in my tab list

  8. ralphm waves

  9. ivucica

    > <MattJ> Can't tell if joking Very much joking, don't worry. The XEP itself is joking, and so am I

  10. pep.

    I'm missing pictures of the lightening talks board at summit, anybody got that?

  11. Guus

    Good to hear that lots of people had fun and a productive time in Brussels. My time also had a silver lining: I lost 3kg and am back on track for my diet! 😉

  12. Guus

    I'd love for someone(s) to generate content from all of this: obviously (proto)XEPs, as discussed in the summit, but maybe also blogposts and the like, and making the various collab notes more permanent (in the wiki?). Are such efforts already under way?

  13. dwd@dave.cridland.net

    I've a PR open now for Inbox (though I think some of the stuff about clients managing unread wasn't captured and I'm not clear what was decided if anything).

  14. pep.

    I'm compiling the minutes today

  15. dwd@dave.cridland.net

    I've also written up my discussions with Matthew@Matrix.

  16. pep.

    and I'll reach out to people because there are missing pieces

  17. pep.

    it won't be out today

  18. Guus

    Thanks guys, that's awesome!

  19. vanitasvitae

    BTW I talked to some matrix guys how they do stickers. Basically a sticker set is another room where the user posts stickers to. By sharing the room, a user can share sets around and users that want to fetch stickers join the room and download the stickers which are simple events.

  20. MattJ

    room == pubsub/PEP!

  21. vanitasvitae

    More or less yeah

  22. ralphm

    Given what I saw at their FOSDEM booth, I wouldn't trust Matrix on their skills with stickers.

  23. vanitasvitae

    What I find curious is that they use this "block chain" (I don't want to use the term actually) for messages. Like every message is signed and references to its predecessor. However when messages are deleted, they are replaced with a new message. That however breaks the signature chain, so I don't get why they do it in the first place :D

  24. ralphm

    I.e. they had sticker sets with (confusingly) all identical stickers.

  25. ralphm

    And then had to use a cutting machine to get individual dies to hand out.

  26. vanitasvitae

    Badum tzzz

  27. ralphm

    vanitasvitae, you're welcome. For real though, why didn't they just order die cut stickers like everyone else?

  28. vanitasvitae

    Who knows :D

  29. pep.

    Cheaper

  30. pep.

    And if they have the machine, it's not like it takes a lot of time to do in a context like fosdem

  31. pep.

    Judging by the number of people they had at the booth

  32. ralphm

    I don't know, if the whole idea behind octagon-shaped stickers is that they all neatly align into a mosaic, then hand-cutting them seems counter-productive.

  33. ralphm

    And looks silly.

  34. pep.

    I'm listing summit participant in the minutes. Who wants to appear as fullname, who as nickname? :x

  35. pep.

    I count 18(?) over the two days

  36. pep.

    Anybody wants to appear a remote participant in the minutes?

  37. pep.

    Zash, goffi? I'll poke jonas

  38. Guus

    I suggest that you go with full name, unless explicitly asked to do differently. Maybe look at the wiki page to get an idea who prefers what.

  39. pep.

    Yeah I was looking

  40. Zash

    pep.: full name is fine

  41. Holger

    Same here.

  42. goffi

    pep.: yes you can add me as remote participant, even if I was not there 100% of the time.

  43. Link Mauve

    pep., either is fine for me.