XSF Discussion - 2010-05-06

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  35. Alex

    hi @all

  36. Alex

    room is crowded today

  37. Tobias

    did we hit the maximum occupancy already? shall i leave? ;)

  38. Neustradamus

    hi all

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  47. zooldk@gmail.com

    Toumas is too exited.. ;-)

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  49. zooldk@gmail.com

    you keep logging in and out.. ;-)

  50. koski

    yes, my psi got crazy... sorry for the noise

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  55. Alex

    ok, lets start the meeting

  56. Alex bangs the gavel

  57. Alex

    here is our agenda for today: http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2010-05-06.shtml

  58. Alex

    1) Call for Quorum

  59. Alex

    as you can see 41 members voted via proxy

  60. Alex

    we have 62 members, so we have a quorum on this vote

  61. Alex

    2) Items Subject to a Vote

  62. Alex

    new and returning members, you can see all applicants here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_April_2010

  63. Alex

    3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting

  64. Alex

    does anybody want to vote in the meeting?

  65. Kev

    Not I.

  66. Tobias

    if we can vote twice: yeah :)

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  68. Alex

    ok, then I prepare the results

  69. Alex

    hold on

  70. Alex

    4) Announcement of Voting Results

  71. Alex

    if you reload the webpage you can see the results

  72. Alex


  73. Alex

    all new and returning members ae accepted

  74. Alex

    congrats to all new members

  75. zooldk@gmail.com

    *KLAP* *KLAP*

  76. Alex

    5) Any Other Business?

  77. Jehan

    So is there some alcohol now?

  78. Jehan

    Like a party after the vote for welcoming new members?

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  80. Alex

    I have a beer next to me ;-) so scheers

  81. Neustradamus

    congrats !

  82. Jehan

    That's what is missing in XMPP: a XEP to send liquids through the network.

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  84. Alex

    6) Formal Adjournment

  85. Alex

    I motion that we adjourn

  86. zooldk@gmail.com

    Jehan: If you publish a beer, I'd like to subscribe!'

  87. Steven Parkes

    somebody has to second? i second

  88. Alex


  89. Alex


  90. Jehan

    Yeah I would prefer to publish a whisky as for I zooldk@gmail.com.

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  92. Kev

    Thanks Alex.

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  94. Steven Parkes

    thanks alex

  95. zooldk@gmail.com

    Jerhan: merci!

  96. zooldk@gmail.com

    thanks Alex

  97. zooldk@gmail.com

    great work.. and welcome to all the new members! :-)

  98. Alex

    I have another meeting in some minutes, so I will add all new members tomorrow

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  102. Jehan

    No party then. Very disappointing meeting.

  103. stpeter

    hmph, I missed all the fun

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  105. Kev

    Nevermind :)

  106. stpeter

    ok, about this review of the file transfer XEPs, it looks like I'll need to start individually poking members of the technical review team...

  107. Jehan

    Hi stpeter. Yeah, there was no fun, don't worry.

  108. Kev

    stpeter: yes, I have no time to look at that outside what I need to do for Council atm.

  109. stpeter

    while at lunch I wrote up a to-do list with 30+ items on it -- I have a lot to do :)

  110. Kev


  111. stpeter

    Kev: understood

  112. Kev

    I have exactly the same time as everyone else.

  113. Kev

    I just have excess things to do in it.

  114. stpeter

    hey, I got myself into this IESG thing :P

  115. stpeter

    Kev: yeah yeah yeah :)

  116. Kev

    I really want to get this client released ;)

  117. Jehan

    Ok anyway here day is beginning.

  118. Jehan

    So I guess I should sleep a little.

  119. Tobias

    Kev: got all the bugs fixed that prevent it from being usable on a day-to-day basis? :)

  120. Jehan

    So goodbye all!

  121. Kev

    gn Jehan

  122. stpeter

    bye Jehan

  123. Kev

    Tobias: oh, it is usable day to day, I do so already ;)

  124. Tobias

    Kev: you masochist ;)

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  127. stpeter

    erk, my inbox is creeping back up into the middle ages :(

  128. stpeter

    we're past the Norman Conquest!

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  133. Neustradamus

    stpeter: I have a little question, can you update http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/memberlist.shtml ?

  134. stpeter

    I can, but Alex will

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  136. Neustradamus

    Astro: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Stephan_Maka_January_2010 is not in http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/memberlist.shtml here : http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2010-02-17.shtml Stephan Maka 36 1

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  138. Neustradamus

    it is strange, Astro could not vote I think

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  144. Dave

    For new folks, where is good to hang - mailing lists? chat rooms? which ones?

  145. Kev

    jdev@, standards@ for the mailing lists, jdev@conference.jabber.org for the chat rooms

  146. Dave

    Does XSF work with other organizations? I was chair of oBIX XML technical committee at OASIS and they were interested in doing a spec for using XMPP as a transport for oBIX.

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  151. stpeter

    Dave: yes we do

  152. stpeter

    Dave: I've worked with OASIS, Liberty Alliance, W3C, and of course IETF

  153. stpeter

    yay, I'm almost finished with my "editor's review" of draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis -- only the security considerations still to complete

  154. Dave

    Great. The oBIX folks will likely ask me to help them craft and review a proposal

  155. stpeter

    Dave: I'm in fact an OASIS member now

  156. stpeter

    I'm involved (if can call it that) with the XDI and ICOM TCs

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  158. Dave

    Cool - I am not because my membership was through my old company

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  160. stpeter

    I wasn't a member until Jabber Inc. was acquired by Cisco

  161. stpeter

    aha, interesting

  162. Dave

    I was mostly involved with oBIX committee and the new OASIS Blue section

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  164. stpeter

    I know some folks who are planning to submit a XEP about oBIX-related stuff

  165. stpeter

    basically smartgrid stuff over XMPP

  166. stpeter

    I need to poke them again

  167. stpeter

    too much to do :)

  168. Dave

    I've worked on smartgrid from a few different angles - formerly worked at Trane Commercial Systems doing building automation and integration of the automation systems

  169. Dave

    That's how I got into XMPP

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  171. stpeter

    the guys I spoke with are at EnerNOC

  172. Dave

    It will be interesting to see who can figure out a way to actually do something useful in the space - lots of experimentation going on.

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  174. stpeter

    and lots of money sloshing around

  175. Dave

    For sure - keeping a lot of folks in business at the moment

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  177. Dave

    Is there a good way to catch up on what's in-process for new xep proposals - I assume there's a list somewhere?

  178. stpeter

    those in-process documents about smartgrid stuff aren't published anywhere yet -- I had promises of submittals but nothing yet

  179. stpeter

    in general, the standards@xmpp.org list is where those things are announced

  180. Dave

    Yes, I just subscribed to that and see a few things going by. Are there others for which there is no traffic right now? Hard to tell what's NOT there.

  181. stpeter

    we have plenty of lists, but that one is probably the most active

  182. stpeter

    things come and go :)

  183. stpeter

    we have little lulls sometimes and then boom

  184. Dave

    OK - thanks for your help. I'm heading off to dinner now.

  185. stpeter

    good idea

  186. stpeter

    I'm going to wander off, myself :)

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