XSF Discussion - 2010-05-06

  1. Jehan


  2. Alex

    hi @all

  3. Alex

    room is crowded today

  4. Tobias

    did we hit the maximum occupancy already? shall i leave? ;)

  5. Neustradamus

    hi all

  6. zooldk@gmail.com

    Toumas is too exited.. ;-)

  7. koski


  8. zooldk@gmail.com

    you keep logging in and out.. ;-)

  9. koski

    yes, my psi got crazy... sorry for the noise

  10. zooldk@gmail.com


  11. Alex

    ok, lets start the meeting

  12. Alex bangs the gavel

  13. Alex

    here is our agenda for today: http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2010-05-06.shtml

  14. Alex

    1) Call for Quorum

  15. Alex

    as you can see 41 members voted via proxy

  16. Alex

    we have 62 members, so we have a quorum on this vote

  17. Alex

    2) Items Subject to a Vote

  18. Alex

    new and returning members, you can see all applicants here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_April_2010

  19. Alex

    3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting

  20. Alex

    does anybody want to vote in the meeting?

  21. Kev

    Not I.

  22. Tobias

    if we can vote twice: yeah :)

  23. zooldk@gmail.com


  24. Alex

    ok, then I prepare the results

  25. Alex

    hold on

  26. Alex

    4) Announcement of Voting Results

  27. Alex

    if you reload the webpage you can see the results

  28. Alex


  29. Alex

    all new and returning members ae accepted

  30. Alex

    congrats to all new members

  31. zooldk@gmail.com

    *KLAP* *KLAP*

  32. Alex

    5) Any Other Business?

  33. Jehan

    So is there some alcohol now?

  34. Jehan

    Like a party after the vote for welcoming new members?

  35. zooldk@gmail.com


  36. Alex

    I have a beer next to me ;-) so scheers

  37. Neustradamus

    congrats !

  38. Jehan

    That's what is missing in XMPP: a XEP to send liquids through the network.

  39. Alex

    6) Formal Adjournment

  40. Alex

    I motion that we adjourn

  41. zooldk@gmail.com

    Jehan: If you publish a beer, I'd like to subscribe!'

  42. Steven Parkes

    somebody has to second? i second

  43. Alex


  44. Alex


  45. Jehan

    Yeah I would prefer to publish a whisky as for I zooldk@gmail.com.

  46. Alex bangs the gavel

  47. Kev

    Thanks Alex.

  48. Steven Parkes

    thanks alex

  49. zooldk@gmail.com

    Jerhan: merci!

  50. zooldk@gmail.com

    thanks Alex

  51. zooldk@gmail.com

    great work.. and welcome to all the new members! :-)

  52. Alex

    I have another meeting in some minutes, so I will add all new members tomorrow

  53. Jehan

    No party then. Very disappointing meeting.

  54. stpeter

    hmph, I missed all the fun

  55. stpeter waves to Jehan

  56. Kev

    Nevermind :)

  57. stpeter

    ok, about this review of the file transfer XEPs, it looks like I'll need to start individually poking members of the technical review team...

  58. Jehan

    Hi stpeter. Yeah, there was no fun, don't worry.

  59. Kev

    stpeter: yes, I have no time to look at that outside what I need to do for Council atm.

  60. stpeter

    while at lunch I wrote up a to-do list with 30+ items on it -- I have a lot to do :)

  61. Kev


  62. stpeter

    Kev: understood

  63. Kev

    I have exactly the same time as everyone else.

  64. Kev

    I just have excess things to do in it.

  65. stpeter

    hey, I got myself into this IESG thing :P

  66. stpeter

    Kev: yeah yeah yeah :)

  67. Kev

    I really want to get this client released ;)

  68. Jehan

    Ok anyway here day is beginning.

  69. Jehan

    So I guess I should sleep a little.

  70. Tobias

    Kev: got all the bugs fixed that prevent it from being usable on a day-to-day basis? :)

  71. Jehan

    So goodbye all!

  72. Kev

    gn Jehan

  73. stpeter

    bye Jehan

  74. Kev

    Tobias: oh, it is usable day to day, I do so already ;)

  75. Tobias

    Kev: you masochist ;)

  76. stpeter laughs

  77. stpeter

    erk, my inbox is creeping back up into the middle ages :(

  78. stpeter

    we're past the Norman Conquest!

  79. Kev


  80. stpeter


  81. Neustradamus

    stpeter: I have a little question, can you update http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/memberlist.shtml ?

  82. stpeter

    I can, but Alex will

  83. Neustradamus

    Astro: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Stephan_Maka_January_2010 is not in http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/memberlist.shtml here : http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2010-02-17.shtml Stephan Maka 36 1

  84. Neustradamus

    it is strange, Astro could not vote I think

  85. Dave

    For new folks, where is good to hang - mailing lists? chat rooms? which ones?

  86. Kev

    jdev@, standards@ for the mailing lists, jdev@conference.jabber.org for the chat rooms

  87. Dave

    Does XSF work with other organizations? I was chair of oBIX XML technical committee at OASIS and they were interested in doing a spec for using XMPP as a transport for oBIX.

  88. stpeter

    Dave: yes we do

  89. stpeter

    Dave: I've worked with OASIS, Liberty Alliance, W3C, and of course IETF

  90. stpeter

    yay, I'm almost finished with my "editor's review" of draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis -- only the security considerations still to complete

  91. Dave

    Great. The oBIX folks will likely ask me to help them craft and review a proposal

  92. stpeter

    Dave: I'm in fact an OASIS member now

  93. stpeter

    I'm involved (if can call it that) with the XDI and ICOM TCs

  94. stpeter


  95. Dave

    Cool - I am not because my membership was through my old company

  96. stpeter


  97. stpeter

    I wasn't a member until Jabber Inc. was acquired by Cisco

  98. stpeter

    aha, interesting

  99. Dave

    I was mostly involved with oBIX committee and the new OASIS Blue section

  100. stpeter

    I know some folks who are planning to submit a XEP about oBIX-related stuff

  101. stpeter

    basically smartgrid stuff over XMPP

  102. stpeter

    I need to poke them again

  103. stpeter

    too much to do :)

  104. Dave

    I've worked on smartgrid from a few different angles - formerly worked at Trane Commercial Systems doing building automation and integration of the automation systems

  105. Dave

    That's how I got into XMPP

  106. stpeter


  107. stpeter

    the guys I spoke with are at EnerNOC

  108. Dave

    It will be interesting to see who can figure out a way to actually do something useful in the space - lots of experimentation going on.

  109. stpeter


  110. stpeter

    and lots of money sloshing around

  111. Dave

    For sure - keeping a lot of folks in business at the moment

  112. Dave

    Is there a good way to catch up on what's in-process for new xep proposals - I assume there's a list somewhere?

  113. stpeter

    those in-process documents about smartgrid stuff aren't published anywhere yet -- I had promises of submittals but nothing yet

  114. stpeter

    in general, the standards@xmpp.org list is where those things are announced

  115. Dave

    Yes, I just subscribed to that and see a few things going by. Are there others for which there is no traffic right now? Hard to tell what's NOT there.

  116. stpeter

    we have plenty of lists, but that one is probably the most active

  117. stpeter

    things come and go :)

  118. stpeter

    we have little lulls sometimes and then boom

  119. Dave

    OK - thanks for your help. I'm heading off to dinner now.

  120. stpeter

    good idea

  121. stpeter

    I'm going to wander off, myself :)