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Nicolas
hi
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will.sheward
evening
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stpeter
greetings
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stpeter
no sign of Florian
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stpeter
Jack is "away"
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will.sheward
lets give them a few minutes
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stpeter
sure
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will.sheward
so, how are things peter, not heard from you in a while?
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stpeter
busy as always
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Nicolas
everybody seems busy
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stpeter
this IESG gig is a lot of work
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will.sheward
yes, this is good i think?
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Nicolas
btw, do you see like me a slow in the xsf's activity?
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will.sheward
nyco: oh yes
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Tobias
Nicolas: yeah
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Nicolas
what does it mean? can we do something about it?
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will.sheward
iesg: i know, we barely see alexey these days
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will.sheward
well, we are - we're having a meeting ;-)
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will.sheward
this slowness is partly down to us. we've not been the most active board have we?
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will.sheward
busy busy busy - taking up most of our time with work
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Nicolas
yes, absolutely, in the absolute, we have not been very active
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will.sheward
which is a shame - but unavoidable i think
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Nicolas
why not?
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will.sheward
well, i guess we've not been active because we're all very busy elsewhere?
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Nicolas
true for me
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Nicolas
but more generally?
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stpeter
sorry, got a phone call
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Nicolas
too few new members at the last membership election
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Nicolas
np
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will.sheward
agreed
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will.sheward
too little publicity to attract new applicants
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will.sheward
again, this is our responsibility in part
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will.sheward
i think we got off to a good start but "life" got in the way
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will.sheward
I dont think the others are coming?
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will.sheward
should we/can we start?
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Nicolas
2/4, with peter
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Nicolas
should we?
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Nicolas
see, even the board seems not very concerned
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will.sheward
:-(
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Nicolas
same feeling for me
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stpeter
almost done with my call
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will.sheward
Lets start, if were wrong we can pretend this is a comm team meeting
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Nicolas
np stpeter
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Nicolas
;-)
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Nicolas
ok
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will.sheward
wait for peter then
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Nicolas
http://typewith.me/wMQa8S0yEJ
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will.sheward
i'm there
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stpeter
I can call Jack
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Nicolas
who are you, unnamed?
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stpeter
I'm done with the phone
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Nicolas
ok, thx
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Tobias
Nicolas: prob. me#
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will.sheward
the masked user?
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will.sheward
Zorro?
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
I called Jack but no answer
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Nicolas
ok
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Nicolas
nevermind
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will.sheward
then lets start
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Nicolas
do you have Flo's phone number?
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stpeter
I texted him
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Nicolas
I can SMS him
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Nicolas
ok
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Nicolas
SPONSORS
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will.sheward
i think we've all texted him
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stpeter
yep, starting
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stpeter
so
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will.sheward
sponsors: peter, did you get any further with your conversation?
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stpeter
our current list of sponsors is outdated
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will.sheward
very outdated
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stpeter
very outdated
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stpeter
heh
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Nicolas
http://stage.xmpp.org/?page_id=258 ?
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will.sheward
great minds...
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stpeter
so we might wan to clear it out
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stpeter
+t
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stpeter
I recently contacted ISOC, which supports IETF and recently also W3C
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will.sheward
we can leave a couple in (secure hosting?)
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stpeter
and they use XMPP :)
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stpeter
they are a likely candidate
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stpeter
I also need to hit up Cisco :)
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Tobias
w3c uses XMPP?
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stpeter
but I think the Cisco folks would like to support a particular project / initiative that we propose (e2e encryption or whatever)
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will.sheward
re cisco: we can pass that onto wider membership/council to see if a project is something they want
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stpeter
yes
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will.sheward
would be best if a project was technically aligned with council work/direction
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will.sheward
wasnt florian contacting some people? guess we should mail him to find out
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stpeter
at the IETF meeting in Maastricht I also met one of the guys from NLNet
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stpeter
they are interested in XMPP stuff too (Jingle Nodes etc.)
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stpeter
again they'd probably be interested in supporting a particular initiative
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Tobias
stpeter: they also had DNSSEC fund which might be interesting for some XMPP server projects too http://nlnet.nl/dnssec/
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stpeter
Tobias: yes
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stpeter
see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-xmpp-dna/
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stpeter
so I think we need to have more discussion among the community about priorities
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stpeter
http://xmpp.org/xsf/roadmap.shtml is outdated, too
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Nicolas
I've tried to inventory all the social networks using XMPP: maybe these are good candidates as sponsors?
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stpeter
we'll be done with the RFC revisions soon
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stpeter
perhaps we need a broader conversation about priorities and things that we think are important to work on as a community
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Nicolas
board + coucil + members ?
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will.sheward
everyone
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will.sheward
i thin
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will.sheward
k
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stpeter
and that will help us ask sponsors if they want to help with those efforts
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Nicolas
s/coucil/council/
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will.sheward
should i just put a holding page here: v ?
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will.sheward
http://stage.xmpp.org/?page_id=987
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stpeter
yes
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will.sheward
noted.
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stpeter
and we need to move stage to real :)
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will.sheward
yes, please
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Nicolas
yep
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Nicolas
what do you need?
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will.sheward
i'm currently writing up the documentation on the site (explaining structure etc)
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stpeter
I thought that Kev had what he needed for the switch
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will.sheward
i think we're ready to go
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will.sheward
kev has the info
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stpeter
ok
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will.sheward
i'll aks him to push the button tomorrow
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Nicolas
ok, cool!
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stpeter
ok
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will.sheward
then i can spend a few hours of panic chasing down errors
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stpeter
if he needs my assistance, we can do this early next week
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Nicolas
and let's call for a review by our members?
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Nicolas
the can report stuff on the tracker?
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stpeter
Nicolas: yes, once we launch
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stpeter
yeah
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stpeter
+1
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will.sheward
nyco: yes. We also need to get comm team members involved and "taking responsibility" for maintaining specific pages
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Nicolas
ok
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will.sheward
i'll draft a message for commteam
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Nicolas
cool, thx
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stpeter
thanks
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will.sheward
so - what do i do about the sponsors page?
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Nicolas
(please review my notes on typewithme)
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will.sheward
put up a blank page - admit we have no sponsors?
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stpeter
one more note about sponsors -- Florian said he had some leads, too -- but I do think that more clearly defining our roadmap will help
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stpeter
roadmap and specific initiatives + activities
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will.sheward
yes - i think sponsors will be more likely to get involved with specific direction
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Nicolas
sponsorship from Microsoft, AOL, Skype, etc. ?
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will.sheward
hehe
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stpeter
ok, what other topics do we have on our agenda?
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will.sheward
gsoc
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Nicolas
well, MS is doing a Facebook-chat-aware client inside MSn
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stpeter
interesting
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stpeter
I had some conversations recently with some guys who work on the XMPP gateway from Microsoft OCS
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will.sheward
yes
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Nicolas
MS as a sponsor, it's not a joke! ;-)
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Nicolas
so GSoC
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stpeter
haha
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stpeter
yes
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stpeter
I think bear and Kev can tell us the most about GSoc
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Nicolas
where are we? a blogpost needs to be written?
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bear
I am working on a "ok, all done" blog post
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Nicolas
ah cool
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stpeter
ah
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bear
I need to poke 2 of the students to finish their final report
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stpeter
bear: disregard PM :)
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bear
:)
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will.sheward
reminds me - need to talk about blog
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Nicolas
yes?
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bear
so yes, final report will be blogged in probably about a day
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will.sheward
is the blog still blog.xmpp.org <http://blog.xmpp.org> - or is it now the main page of stage.xmpp.org <http://stage.xmpp.org>
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will.sheward
or both?
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stpeter
I'm also hoping that we will get more implementation feedback from the students regarding the specs they implemented -- we might want to make that a condition of participation / part of the final report in future years :)
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bear
the gsoc was uneventful for 3 of the 4 and even the 4th was normal, he just didn't plan properly
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stpeter
will.sheward: it should be the main page
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Nicolas
will.sheward, afaiac, I don't care
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stpeter
and then we deprecate the blog
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bear
two of the students are probably going to be very involved but I think the other 2 will not
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stpeter
I mean, deprecate blog.xmpp.org
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will.sheward
ok - will add this to list of things to talk to kev about
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stpeter
bear: sounds about right
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Tobias
stpeter: i'll post some feedback the next time; i've already marked a couple thinks in my printed 198 version, just need to find it
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Nicolas
stpeter, deprecate yes, but by keepign the link alive for redirection
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stpeter
bear: of all the students we've had over the years, few have really stayed involved -- Tobias is a big exception
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Tobias
s/next time/during the next days
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stpeter
Nicolas: yes
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Tobias
stpeter: however i've been already involved before my first GSoC if i remember correctly
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bear
:)
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stpeter
yes, true
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bear
I won't be able to attend the gsoc event coming up - do we want to send someone else?
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stpeter
I've never attended one of those
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stpeter
I've heard they are fun, but I've never had time
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bear
then let's not break the pattern
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will.sheward
bear: i've upgraded you to 'author' on stage.xmpp - for the gsoc post
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
yeah
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bear
cool
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bear
thanks will
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Nicolas
anything else about gsoc?
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stpeter
not that I can see
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bear
nothing eventful if you mean
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stpeter
at some point they'll send us some money, I suppose
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will.sheward
money money money
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Nicolas
last item: mini summits
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will.sheward
like
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Nicolas
;-)
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bear
yea, was going to ask you about that - if any money had been received yet
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will.sheward
ok - who suggested mini-summits?
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stpeter
usually it's delayed a while
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Nicolas
I don't know
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bear
k
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stpeter
bear: I'm sure there will be a post about it to the org / mentor list at some point
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bear
k
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will.sheward
yeah bear: just don't run off with the money :-)
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stpeter
probably Florian added the item about mini-summits, given that London is mentioned
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bear
mini summits - like east coast, west coast, different EU spots?
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Nicolas
so we're touching the end of the meeting? please review the notes, and report action items
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bear
will - don't look at me - it's being mailed to psa's desk IIRC ;)
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stpeter
yes, they'll send it to my work address, I think
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stpeter
I'm all in favor of formal and informal meetings
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will.sheward
ah ha - peter's extravagant lifestyle explained
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Nicolas
;-)
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will.sheward
informal local meetings are good - seem to have been a lull in them recently?
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stpeter
yes indeed :)
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stpeter
lots of lulls recently
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will.sheward
yeah :-(
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bear
it's been that kind of year - everything has slowed down
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Nicolas
please review, fix, enhance, beautify http://typewith.me/wMQa8S0yEJ
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will.sheward
bad us
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will.sheward
ok
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bear
yea, he probably his given he is on holiday
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Nicolas
next meeting: tuesday, 7th of September?
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stpeter
bear: indeed
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stpeter
Nicolas: that works for me
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will.sheward
works for me
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bear
i'm planning with a local philly person a xmpp meetup for october
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stpeter
another item is that Alex and I need to talk about timing for Board and Council elections
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will.sheward
same bat time, same bat place?
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bear
we can make that intoa mini-summit if that is ok
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stpeter
bear: sure!
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Nicolas
ok then
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Nicolas
I need to go
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Nicolas
thx everybody
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stpeter
ok
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will.sheward
ok
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Nicolas
bye
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will.sheward
bye
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bear
later
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bear
I placed a note about a sponsor possible in the doc - feel free to remove my parenthetical comment after reading it
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will.sheward
ah - that's you
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will.sheward
ok - i'm done for tonight. i have a few tasks from this so i'll get on with those tomorrow.
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stpeter
ok
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will.sheward
'see' you all later
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
so I can send the chatroom log and the minutes text to the board list
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will.sheward
stper: i've just added an action item for you
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
yep
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stpeter
I'll ping Alex about that but won't take action until Monday, since I'm supposed to be on vacation this week :)
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will.sheward
staycayion or going away?
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will.sheward
staycation
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stpeter
going away tomorrow for a few days
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stpeter
but mostly staycation
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will.sheward
well, hope you have fun. bye for now
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
I'm done
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stpeter
info sent to board list
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stpeter
I'll send to members list as well
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stpeter
now back to staycation mode :)
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stpeter
thanks, all!
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