XSF Discussion - 2010-08-24

hi

evening

greetings

no sign of Florian

Jack is "away"

lets give them a few minutes

sure

so, how are things peter, not heard from you in a while?

busy as always

everybody seems busy

this IESG gig is a lot of work

yes, this is good i think?

btw, do you see like me a slow in the xsf's activity?

nyco: oh yes

Nicolas: yeah

what does it mean? can we do something about it?

iesg: i know, we barely see alexey these days

well, we are - we're having a meeting ;-)

this slowness is partly down to us. we've not been the most active board have we?

busy busy busy - taking up most of our time with work

yes, absolutely, in the absolute, we have not been very active

which is a shame - but unavoidable i think

why not?

well, i guess we've not been active because we're all very busy elsewhere?

true for me

but more generally?

sorry, got a phone call

too few new members at the last membership election

np

agreed

too little publicity to attract new applicants

again, this is our responsibility in part

i think we got off to a good start but "life" got in the way

I dont think the others are coming?

should we/can we start?

2/4, with peter

should we?

see, even the board seems not very concerned

:-(

same feeling for me

almost done with my call

Lets start, if were wrong we can pretend this is a comm team meeting

np stpeter

;-)

ok

wait for peter then

http://typewith.me/wMQa8S0yEJ

i'm there

I can call Jack

who are you, unnamed?

I'm done with the phone

ok, thx

Nicolas: prob. me#

the masked user?

Zorro?

ok

I called Jack but no answer

ok

nevermind

then lets start

do you have Flo's phone number?

I texted him

I can SMS him

ok

SPONSORS

i think we've all texted him

yep, starting

so

sponsors: peter, did you get any further with your conversation?

our current list of sponsors is outdated

very outdated

very outdated

heh

http://stage.xmpp.org/?page_id=258 ?

great minds...

so we might wan to clear it out

+t

I recently contacted ISOC, which supports IETF and recently also W3C

we can leave a couple in (secure hosting?)

and they use XMPP :)

they are a likely candidate

I also need to hit up Cisco :)

w3c uses XMPP?

but I think the Cisco folks would like to support a particular project / initiative that we propose (e2e encryption or whatever)

re cisco: we can pass that onto wider membership/council to see if a project is something they want

yes

would be best if a project was technically aligned with council work/direction

wasnt florian contacting some people? guess we should mail him to find out

at the IETF meeting in Maastricht I also met one of the guys from NLNet

they are interested in XMPP stuff too (Jingle Nodes etc.)

again they'd probably be interested in supporting a particular initiative

stpeter: they also had DNSSEC fund which might be interesting for some XMPP server projects too http://nlnet.nl/dnssec/

Tobias: yes

see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-xmpp-dna/

so I think we need to have more discussion among the community about priorities

http://xmpp.org/xsf/roadmap.shtml is outdated, too

I've tried to inventory all the social networks using XMPP: maybe these are good candidates as sponsors?

we'll be done with the RFC revisions soon

perhaps we need a broader conversation about priorities and things that we think are important to work on as a community

board + coucil + members ?

everyone

i thin

k

and that will help us ask sponsors if they want to help with those efforts

s/coucil/council/

should i just put a holding page here: v ?

http://stage.xmpp.org/?page_id=987

yes

noted.

and we need to move stage to real :)

yes, please

yep

what do you need?

i'm currently writing up the documentation on the site (explaining structure etc)

I thought that Kev had what he needed for the switch

i think we're ready to go

kev has the info

ok

i'll aks him to push the button tomorrow

ok, cool!

ok

then i can spend a few hours of panic chasing down errors

if he needs my assistance, we can do this early next week

and let's call for a review by our members?

the can report stuff on the tracker?

Nicolas: yes, once we launch

yeah

+1

nyco: yes. We also need to get comm team members involved and "taking responsibility" for maintaining specific pages

ok

i'll draft a message for commteam

cool, thx

thanks

so - what do i do about the sponsors page?

(please review my notes on typewithme)

put up a blank page - admit we have no sponsors?

one more note about sponsors -- Florian said he had some leads, too -- but I do think that more clearly defining our roadmap will help

roadmap and specific initiatives + activities

yes - i think sponsors will be more likely to get involved with specific direction

sponsorship from Microsoft, AOL, Skype, etc. ?

hehe

ok, what other topics do we have on our agenda?

gsoc

well, MS is doing a Facebook-chat-aware client inside MSn

interesting

I had some conversations recently with some guys who work on the XMPP gateway from Microsoft OCS

yes

MS as a sponsor, it's not a joke! ;-)

so GSoC

haha

yes

I think bear and Kev can tell us the most about GSoc

where are we? a blogpost needs to be written?

I am working on a "ok, all done" blog post

ah cool

ah

I need to poke 2 of the students to finish their final report

bear: disregard PM :)

:)

reminds me - need to talk about blog

yes?

so yes, final report will be blogged in probably about a day

is the blog still blog.xmpp.org <http://blog.xmpp.org> - or is it now the main page of stage.xmpp.org <http://stage.xmpp.org>

or both?

I'm also hoping that we will get more implementation feedback from the students regarding the specs they implemented -- we might want to make that a condition of participation / part of the final report in future years :)

the gsoc was uneventful for 3 of the 4 and even the 4th was normal, he just didn't plan properly

will.sheward: it should be the main page

will.sheward, afaiac, I don't care

and then we deprecate the blog

two of the students are probably going to be very involved but I think the other 2 will not

I mean, deprecate blog.xmpp.org

ok - will add this to list of things to talk to kev about

bear: sounds about right

stpeter: i'll post some feedback the next time; i've already marked a couple thinks in my printed 198 version, just need to find it

stpeter, deprecate yes, but by keepign the link alive for redirection

bear: of all the students we've had over the years, few have really stayed involved -- Tobias is a big exception

s/next time/during the next days

Nicolas: yes

stpeter: however i've been already involved before my first GSoC if i remember correctly

:)

yes, true

I won't be able to attend the gsoc event coming up - do we want to send someone else?

I've never attended one of those

I've heard they are fun, but I've never had time

then let's not break the pattern

bear: i've upgraded you to 'author' on stage.xmpp - for the gsoc post

heh

yeah

cool

thanks will

anything else about gsoc?

not that I can see

nothing eventful if you mean

at some point they'll send us some money, I suppose

money money money

last item: mini summits

like

;-)

yea, was going to ask you about that - if any money had been received yet

ok - who suggested mini-summits?

usually it's delayed a while

I don't know

k

bear: I'm sure there will be a post about it to the org / mentor list at some point

k

yeah bear: just don't run off with the money :-)

probably Florian added the item about mini-summits, given that London is mentioned

mini summits - like east coast, west coast, different EU spots?

so we're touching the end of the meeting? please review the notes, and report action items

will - don't look at me - it's being mailed to psa's desk IIRC ;)

yes, they'll send it to my work address, I think

I'm all in favor of formal and informal meetings

ah ha - peter's extravagant lifestyle explained

;-)

informal local meetings are good - seem to have been a lull in them recently?

yes indeed :)

lots of lulls recently

yeah :-(

it's been that kind of year - everything has slowed down

please review, fix, enhance, beautify http://typewith.me/wMQa8S0yEJ

bad us

ok

yea, he probably his given he is on holiday

next meeting: tuesday, 7th of September?

bear: indeed

Nicolas: that works for me

works for me

i'm planning with a local philly person a xmpp meetup for october

another item is that Alex and I need to talk about timing for Board and Council elections

same bat time, same bat place?

we can make that intoa mini-summit if that is ok

bear: sure!

ok then

I need to go

thx everybody

ok

ok

bye

bye

later

I placed a note about a sponsor possible in the doc - feel free to remove my parenthetical comment after reading it

ah - that's you

ok - i'm done for tonight. i have a few tasks from this so i'll get on with those tomorrow.

ok

'see' you all later

ok

so I can send the chatroom log and the minutes text to the board list

stper: i've just added an action item for you

ok

yep

I'll ping Alex about that but won't take action until Monday, since I'm supposed to be on vacation this week :)

staycayion or going away?

staycation

going away tomorrow for a few days

but mostly staycation

well, hope you have fun. bye for now

ok

I'm done

info sent to board list

I'll send to members list as well

now back to staycation mode :)

thanks, all!