XSF Discussion - 2010-10-05

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  19. Nÿco

    CommTeam meeting in... a few minutes

  20. Nÿco

    http://typewith.me/r5oRspegAB << for collab notes taking

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  22. Guillaume

    Hi all

  23. Kev

    Quite the turn-out.

  24. Nÿco

    so, you wanna have that meeting?

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  26. Kev

    Nÿco: Entirely up to you. I don't have anything interesting to say :)

  27. Nÿco

    I just would like to have people contribute

  28. Nÿco

    everybody has its own opinion on what this CommTeam can/should/must do

  29. Nÿco

    I think I'm gonna go on alone with the Roundups and that's it until we get a team

  30. Kev

    I would like to help with stuff, but the number of XSF-related things I do is fairly high already (Not that it isn't for you too), so spare time is something of an issue.

  31. Nÿco

    I know, don't worry

  32. Nÿco

    don't feel guilty! ;-)

  33. Nÿco

    I know how hard you work

  34. Kev

    Perhaps we should start name-and-shaming members at re-application time who haven't done $STUFF :)

  35. Nÿco

    yes ;-)

  36. Nÿco

    beginning by what I've not done, or not in time, or not at all...

  37. Kev

    Well, what needs doing?

  38. Kev

    I know the roundups always need work.

  39. Kev

    Have people stepped up to maintain the new site yet?

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  41. Nÿco

    website review

  42. Nÿco

    maintain website content

  43. Nÿco

    write white papers (we said it was hard and time consuming, but people keep asking for such)

  44. Nÿco

    maintain more precisely the list of: services, clients, servers, libraries, etc.

  45. Nÿco

    do presentations

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  47. Kev

    So there's no shortage of stuff to do.

  48. Kev

    How do we cajole people into doing it?

  49. Nÿco

    I just don't know... XSF members are more developpers...

  50. Nÿco

    I guess starting the wrok, and get people to review it?

  51. Nÿco

    any better idea?

  52. Guillaume

    for white papers, could we try involving companies ?

  53. Kev

    Guillaume: I did briefly consider that a moment ago.

  54. Guillaume

    They always want to do PR

  55. Kev

    It's not clear to me if this would work, but I'm happy to give it a go.

  56. Nÿco

    yes, but companies write white paper to praise their own products

  57. Kev

    As long as 'companies writing whitepapers' doesn't mean 'company writing how great their software is'

  58. Nÿco

    that's the point

  59. Kev

    and if it's not that, it's not clear how motivated companies will be to write them.

  60. Kev

    Maybe we could persuade people to write two-part whitepapers.

  61. Guillaume


  62. Guillaume

    why they used XMPP, Y it's cool

  63. Kev

    One to say how great XMPP feature X is, which the XSF would publish, and then one that says why their implementation is the best, which they can publish themselves.

  64. Guillaume

    .. Y there product is cool

  65. Guillaume

    we could ask some company owners from the xsf if they would be interested ?

  66. Guillaume

    (issuing a joint Press communicate with XSF)

  67. Kev

    Thing is, I have no wish for the XSF to be associated with the part that says "And our software's the best"

  68. Nÿco

    with PR and whitepapers, we would hit the business people: is that what we want?

  69. Nÿco

    Kev: +1

  70. Guillaume

    PR also worls for developers

  71. Guillaume


  72. Nÿco

    no, they are PR-proof ;-)

  73. Kev

    Although possibly not flame-proof :)

  74. Nÿco

    the message would be "And our protocol is the best"... maybe adding "You haven't fully understood it yet" ;-)

  75. Guillaume

    does the xsf do PR today ?

  76. Kev

    Which 'PR'?

  77. Kev

    Public relations or Press releases?

  78. Kev

    The XSF did Press releases a looong time ago, and decided to stop in favour of blogging (stpeter will remember this better than me).

  79. Guillaume

    ok, and i'm guessing no press relations from what you said

  80. Nÿco

    we can use the Social Web these days...

  81. Nÿco

    most of the most influentail techies websites are not traditionnal press these days... and it may last

  82. Nÿco

    writing long PR and whitepapers is... boring, time-consuming, etc.

  83. Nÿco

    microblogging is fun

  84. Kev

    And still time-consuming :)

  85. Nÿco

    maybe we can setup something on this front ?

  86. Nÿco

    yes ;-)

  87. Kev

    The XSF has an identi.ca account, I believe.

  88. Kev

    I'm sure we could set up XSF-News or something if we want to have another one.

  89. Guillaume

    how do we communicate today to the influential techies blogs ?

  90. Kev

    We don't.

  91. Nÿco

    we do

  92. Kev

    We do?

  93. Guillaume


  94. Nÿco

    follow them on Twitter, mention them, get caught, say interesting, relevant stuff, and that's it

  95. Guillaume

    It could maybe be usefull to identify the blog owners and inform them of new XSF blog posts by mail ?

  96. Nÿco


  97. Nÿco

    ignite public discussions on Twitter

  98. Nÿco

    so, let's get more "Social'?

  99. Nÿco

    I need to go now...

  100. Nÿco

    I feel we must open up our gates to the outside world, and get people to join in

  101. Nÿco

    ok, done?

  102. Kev

    I don't have anything else.

  103. Nÿco


  104. Nÿco

    thx Kev, thx Guillaume

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  106. Kev

    Thanks Nÿco

  107. Guillaume

    thx !

  108. Guillaume

    by all

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  117. Florian

    So, does this OneTeam work?

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  119. Florian


  120. will.sheward

    i thnk so

  121. will.sheward

    it *is* tuesday right? :-)

  122. Florian

    I'd say so

  123. Florian

    But it seems that Tuesday is a really bad day

  124. will.sheward

    all work days are bad days!

  125. Florian


  126. will.sheward

    ok - so it's just you and me then.

  127. Florian

    So... Anything urgent? I'd say let's fall back to the ML

  128. will.sheward

    I'm looking at (http://typewith.me/EyJg4G3XSr) - minutes from the last meeting to see if there's anything we need to cover now. Can you do the same?

  129. Florian

    Eh.... The iPad can't find that pad?

  130. will.sheward

    really? how odd

  131. will.sheward

    ha! one of the items was "Peter noted that we could ping members@ list 24 hours before Board and Council meetings"

  132. will.sheward

    so, clearly doing that would have been a good idea

  133. Florian


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  135. Florian

    Let's reschedule a meeting for another date?

  136. stpeter


  137. will.sheward

    ok - i can see jack online (idle) but not nyco. So yes, let's ping the Baord list and reschedule

  138. stpeter

    I was here but I didn't realize it!

  139. stpeter is feeling a bit off today

  140. will.sheward

    i think this one's a washout stpeter

  141. stpeter

    hmph ok

  142. will.sheward

    nyco had a commteam meeting today i think, he might have got the 2 mixed up a bit?

  143. stpeter


  144. will.sheward

    stpeter: who maintains jabber.org <http://jabber.org> site content?

  145. Kev

    Nyco was at the commteam meeting,but had to leave to do other things.

  146. stpeter

    I do

  147. will.sheward

    jehan pointed out that a lot of the xmpp.org <http://xmpp.org> links from jabber.org <http://jabber.org> are incorrect. can you sort me out with a login so i can correct?

  148. Kev

    Are we still in the process of setting up the redirects so the old URLs work?

  149. Kev

    I'm not opposed to fixing jabber.org as well, but we should probably persist the old links on xmpp.org

  150. will.sheward

    kev: i need to compile a list i think

  151. will.sheward

    wwe should correct incoming links that are in our power to correct i think

  152. Kev

    I don't disagree.

  153. will.sheward

    I should think not, slacker

  154. will.sheward

    ok - so lets mail the board list with a request for another date. I think I'll go out for a run

  155. Florian


  156. Florian

    Have fun doing healthy stuff :p

  157. stpeter


  158. will.sheward

    it's the only way i can justify a beer later

  159. Florian


  160. will.sheward

    bye for now

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  162. Neustradamus

    I am here

  163. Neustradamus

    too late sorry

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