XSF Discussion - 2010-10-05

CommTeam meeting in... a few minutes

http://typewith.me/r5oRspegAB << for collab notes taking

Hi all

Quite the turn-out.

so, you wanna have that meeting?

Nÿco: Entirely up to you. I don't have anything interesting to say :)

I just would like to have people contribute

everybody has its own opinion on what this CommTeam can/should/must do

I think I'm gonna go on alone with the Roundups and that's it until we get a team

I would like to help with stuff, but the number of XSF-related things I do is fairly high already (Not that it isn't for you too), so spare time is something of an issue.

I know, don't worry

don't feel guilty! ;-)

I know how hard you work

Perhaps we should start name-and-shaming members at re-application time who haven't done $STUFF :)

yes ;-)

beginning by what I've not done, or not in time, or not at all...

Well, what needs doing?

I know the roundups always need work.

Have people stepped up to maintain the new site yet?

yep

website review

maintain website content

write white papers (we said it was hard and time consuming, but people keep asking for such)

maintain more precisely the list of: services, clients, servers, libraries, etc.

do presentations

etc.

So there's no shortage of stuff to do.

How do we cajole people into doing it?

I just don't know... XSF members are more developpers...

I guess starting the wrok, and get people to review it?

any better idea?

for white papers, could we try involving companies ?

Guillaume: I did briefly consider that a moment ago.

They always want to do PR

It's not clear to me if this would work, but I'm happy to give it a go.

yes, but companies write white paper to praise their own products

As long as 'companies writing whitepapers' doesn't mean 'company writing how great their software is'

that's the point

and if it's not that, it's not clear how motivated companies will be to write them.

Maybe we could persuade people to write two-part whitepapers.

exactly

why they used XMPP, Y it's cool

One to say how great XMPP feature X is, which the XSF would publish, and then one that says why their implementation is the best, which they can publish themselves.

.. Y there product is cool

we could ask some company owners from the xsf if they would be interested ?

(issuing a joint Press communicate with XSF)

Thing is, I have no wish for the XSF to be associated with the part that says "And our software's the best"

with PR and whitepapers, we would hit the business people: is that what we want?

Kev: +1

PR also worls for developers

(works)

no, they are PR-proof ;-)

Although possibly not flame-proof :)

the message would be "And our protocol is the best"... maybe adding "You haven't fully understood it yet" ;-)

does the xsf do PR today ?

Which 'PR'?

Public relations or Press releases?

The XSF did Press releases a looong time ago, and decided to stop in favour of blogging (stpeter will remember this better than me).

ok, and i'm guessing no press relations from what you said

we can use the Social Web these days...

most of the most influentail techies websites are not traditionnal press these days... and it may last

writing long PR and whitepapers is... boring, time-consuming, etc.

microblogging is fun

And still time-consuming :)

maybe we can setup something on this front ?

yes ;-)

The XSF has an identi.ca account, I believe.

I'm sure we could set up XSF-News or something if we want to have another one.

how do we communicate today to the influential techies blogs ?

We don't.

we do

We do?

humm

follow them on Twitter, mention them, get caught, say interesting, relevant stuff, and that's it

It could maybe be usefull to identify the blog owners and inform them of new XSF blog posts by mail ?

yep

ignite public discussions on Twitter

so, let's get more "Social'?

I need to go now...

I feel we must open up our gates to the outside world, and get people to join in

ok, done?

I don't have anything else.

ok

thx Kev, thx Guillaume

bye

Thanks Nÿco

thx !

by all

So, does this OneTeam work?

Meeting?

i thnk so

it *is* tuesday right? :-)

I'd say so

But it seems that Tuesday is a really bad day

all work days are bad days!

Hehe

ok - so it's just you and me then.

So... Anything urgent? I'd say let's fall back to the ML

I'm looking at (http://typewith.me/EyJg4G3XSr) - minutes from the last meeting to see if there's anything we need to cover now. Can you do the same?

Eh.... The iPad can't find that pad?

really? how odd

ha! one of the items was "Peter noted that we could ping members@ list 24 hours before Board and Council meetings"

so, clearly doing that would have been a good idea

Heh

Yup

Let's reschedule a meeting for another date?

oops

ok - i can see jack online (idle) but not nyco. So yes, let's ping the Baord list and reschedule

I was here but I didn't realize it!

i think this one's a washout stpeter

hmph ok

nyco had a commteam meeting today i think, he might have got the 2 mixed up a bit?

right

stpeter: who maintains jabber.org <http://jabber.org> site content?

Nyco was at the commteam meeting,but had to leave to do other things.

I do

jehan pointed out that a lot of the xmpp.org <http://xmpp.org> links from jabber.org <http://jabber.org> are incorrect. can you sort me out with a login so i can correct?

Are we still in the process of setting up the redirects so the old URLs work?

I'm not opposed to fixing jabber.org as well, but we should probably persist the old links on xmpp.org

kev: i need to compile a list i think

wwe should correct incoming links that are in our power to correct i think

I don't disagree.

I should think not, slacker

ok - so lets mail the board list with a request for another date. I think I'll go out for a run

Ok

Have fun doing healthy stuff :p

brb

it's the only way i can justify a beer later

Hehe

bye for now

I am here

too late sorry