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Nÿco
meeting in 12 minutes?
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Nÿco
lag-test
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bear
is there a board muc like there is for council?
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Will
hi jack
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Florian
hi
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Florian
so ... time for the board meeting?
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Will
30 seconds :-)
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Will
Are we all here?
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Florian
Peter is missing
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jack
seems so
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jack
Welcome everyone to the first meeting of the 2010/2011 board :)
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Will
!
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Will
welcome especially Mike
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jack
Indeed!
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Florian
indeed
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jack
Fresh blood is always good.
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bear
who?
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bear
oh me!
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Will
some bloke, i dunno
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jack
So as with every newly seated board, we have to nominate some officers
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Florian
yup
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jack
I believe we need ED, Secretary, and Treasurer
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Florian
I'd propose Peter to take the position of ED if he's up for it
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jack
oh, and board chair
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jack
seconded
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Will
thirded
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jack
I'll volunteer for treasurer again
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Will
especially as he's not here ;-)
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Florian
seconded
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bear
devious
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Will
stpeter now gets all the bad jobs
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Florian
haha
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jack
Alexander is our current secretary, and he did a good job as I recall last year. Does anyone know if he's up for doing it again?
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Will
he's not said as far as i know.
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Florian
hmm
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Florian
I'd say ... let's ask him
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jack
I'd suggest we contact him and ask
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Will
+1
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Florian
:)
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Will
note we're not contacting peter, just assuming
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Florian
haha
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jack
I'll email them both right now
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Will
cool
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jack
Bear, you seemed to be quite organized :) Want to ttake a crack at Chair?
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Florian
:)
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bear
what does that entail?
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Will
quick, vote him in while he's still typing on typewithme and doesn't notice ;-)
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bear
:P
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Florian
+1
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jack
mostly that you make some agendas
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Will
you get to have a longer title than the rest of us and bang a gavel
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jack
although I guess nyco has been doing that :)
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bear
if it is just herding cats and making thingssmooth for others - sure
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Will
I second bear for big chairman role
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jack
There might be a bylaw or two were you break tie votes for other things, but AFAIK none of that has ever been used.
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bear
k
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Will
you have no real power, we just get to blame you if things go wrong
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bear
well damn, since you put it that way, where do I sign up!
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Will
I'm not hearing anything from nyco - is he here?
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Florian
Nÿco?
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bear
he did a "lag test" about 15 minutes before the meeting started
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Will
latency in france must be a b**ch
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Florian
lol
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Neustradamus
:D
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Nÿco
yep
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Will
aha!
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Florian
he's alive!
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Nÿco
my client is
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Nÿco
lag-test
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Nÿco
awful
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Nÿco
but still I can follow
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Florian
using OneTeam again? :p
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Nÿco
no, Psi+
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Florian
sorry ... just had to crack that joke :p
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Nÿco
the lag does not come from the client
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jack
Alex responded that he is up for secretary again.
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Will
cool
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jack
+1 from me
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Will
dito
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jack
other votes?
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Nÿco
as for the chair, I'm comfortably sit, thx ;-)
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Will
lol
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Florian
+1
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Florian
ok .. so the board is sorted?
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Will
i think so
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Nÿco
sort... of
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Nÿco
next item?
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Florian
yup
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Nÿco
bumonthly meetings?
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Will
regular meetings +1
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Nÿco
s/bu/bi/
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Nÿco
Wed?
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jack
I am +1 for the regular meeting slot.
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Florian
+1
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Nÿco
the biggest question will be time?
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Florian
good time at the moment
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Will
I'm ok for this time
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Nÿco
we have a timezone overlap, let's choose in this timeframe
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Nÿco
I'm ok too
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Nÿco
"17:00 aka 5:00pm GMT/UTC"
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bear
this time or earlier is good for me
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Florian
I can't do 16:00
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Florian
can't do earlier than 17:00
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Nÿco
no one against this time?
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jack
I think everyone confirmed.
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Florian
ok ... great :)
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bear
cool, so bi-weekly at 1700 GMT starting today
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jack
Next topic, new website
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Will
items on website....
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Nÿco
every two weeks, bi-weekly being twice a week
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Nÿco
Roundups:
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Nÿco
my mistake I don't find time to publish them
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Florian
shouldn't that be something for the commteam?
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Will
They were good, I'm happy to take lead in re-starting, with nyco's help
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Nÿco
ok
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Nÿco
drafts are in the wiki
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Will
i'll take a look tomorrow
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Nÿco
how would like to work? go on with drafting on the wiki?
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Will
I think we should draft in the wordpress installation
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Florian
+1 for wordpress
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Nÿco
-1 for WP
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Will
I suppose it is less public
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Nÿco
this wiki lets other people watch and contribute, like for example Neustradamus, who is a great help
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Will
so i understand where nyco is coming from
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Nÿco
?
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Florian
what about Etherpad?
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Nÿco
-1 for Etherpad: doesn't fit
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jack
I think the wiki is fine
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Will
i withdraw my +1 for WP and convert it to keeping with wiki
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Nÿco
it is not optimal, I confess, but it works mostly
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jack
Or rather, I vote for whatever Nyco would prefer, since he is the one drafting most of them :)
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Nÿco
can we have a better tool someday?
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Will
lol
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Florian
lol
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jack
Nyco, what would you like in a better tool?
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Will
how about google wave <snigger>
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Nÿco
I would define the roundups as being more successful, if we have more contribs, so any tool for contribs would do
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Florian
instead of wave, I'd say etherpad
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Will
we'll stick with wiki for the moment i think
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Florian
yeah
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Nÿco
etherpad ahs no links, no traceability, etc.
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Nÿco
etherpad is good for one-shots
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Nÿco
ok
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Nÿco
"new website" agenda item: anything to add?
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Will
the tables have stopped working (not editable) again, Kev is looking to see if permissions have changed. If he can't find a reason, we'll try another way of generating them
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bear
i'm working on getting access to git and going to switch the services, libs and clients table to generated tool like what is used for xeps
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Will
plus the ics plugin that was causing the performance issues has a new version out which i'll try tomorrow probably....
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Will
which should enable us to at last fill in this page: http://xmpp.org/participate/future-events/
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Will
bear: that'd be good
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bear
yea, going to use the same input format if possible
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Neustradamus
I would like an update of the very old mediawiki version.
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Nÿco
maintaining the tables data needs more contributions as well...
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Nÿco
can we open the edition to some subsections of the website to special users?
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bear
the person who maintains a spanish version of the tables has contacted me to help
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Will
Nÿco: agree but we're short of volunteers at the moment.
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Nÿco
cool!
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Kev
Nÿco: I don't know if that's possible in wordpress, is it?
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Nÿco
I meant, can we do it technically?
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Nÿco
ah
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Kev
I thought you had to be a sitewide editor, but I'm no wordpress guru.
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Nÿco
ok, no fine grained persmissions?
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bear
if the tables can be generated then we can use git pull-requests :)
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Nÿco
yes, from where?
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Will
no fine grained permissions as standard but we can set people up as contributors which means their changes would be held until released by someone with higher permissions?
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Will
i bet there's a plugin for that though (fine grained)
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bear
let's let the current wp changes get made and then we could revisit the workflow
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Will
agreed
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Will
walk first, run second
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Nÿco
ok
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Nÿco
anything else on the website?
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Will
nothing here
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Nÿco
I tend to agree on the Mediawiki version, but it's a low priority
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Nÿco
next item? Sponsors?
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Will
Sponsors?
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jack
I will send an invoice to Collecta this week. They agreed to sponsor.
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jack
Has anyone asked anyone else? Perhaps we should ask Jonas and see if google is interested :)
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bear
do we have a list of past sponsors? and have they been contacted?
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Will
I've not yet started asking, but a generic message to members to see if they know of anyone (employyers?) would be a good idea
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Nÿco
+1
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Will
I think peter is our best source for list of past sponers...
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Will
i seem to recall we've talked about this before?
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bear
is someone working on the past list then?
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Will
i think "working might be stretching it
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bear
:)
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bear
ok, i'll contact peter about the past list and do an email to member list about suggestions
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Will
I'll draft an email to Members
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bear
ok
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Nÿco
web archive machine may help
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Nÿco
Wayback machine, sorry
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Nÿco
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://jabber.org
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Nÿco
Special Thanks to Our Sponsors: IBM | Hitachi
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Nÿco
wow
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Nÿco
http://web.archive.org/web/20020124045738/http://www.jabber.org/
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Nÿco
in 2002
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Will
you know that opening statement on that page is better than anything we currently have
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Nÿco
next item?
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Nÿco
Roadmap?
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jack
We typically strive to keep the board meetings short. Shall we adjourn today and continue with the remaining items in 2 weeks?
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Nÿco
- Roadmap update - GSoC - Elections - Mini Summits
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Nÿco
agree
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bear
+1
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Will
+1 and we need to talk FOSDEM next meeting as well
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bear
I would put that at the top of the list then
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Nÿco
ok
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Nÿco
Next meeting: 2010-11-24 17:00 aka 5:00pm GMT/UTC
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jack
did someone contact htem?
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jack
the call for devrooms closed October 16th :(
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Will
jack: we have a devroom
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Nÿco
Please, update your agendas
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Kev
Ralph has arranged a room for the Saturday, I believe.
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jack
will: ok good :)
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jack
ok, see everyone in 2 weeks :)
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Will
bye bye
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Nÿco
bye
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Nÿco
thx to all
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Will
bear: do i have permission to leave now? ;-)
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bear
ok, meeting over
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Will
thanks
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bear
:)
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bear
who normally sends out meeting summary?
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Nÿco
the one who asks...
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bear
doh!
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Nÿco
:-p
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Nÿco
welcome to the board bear! ;-)
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bear
ok, i'll work up a brief summary and post it to the members list
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Will
rofl
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bear
thanks!
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Nÿco
maybe no need for a summary, http://typewith.me/y1i9CHJHLH may be enough
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Nÿco
with the log
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bear
that should go to the wiki IMO with a link to the log
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bear
but yes, my summary was going to be a shortened version of the typewith.me doc
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Nÿco
why not... you want to archive everything? if we send to lists, it is archived, no?
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bear
yes
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Nÿco
mmm... yes to what?
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bear
in the absence of past experience i was just going with what i've done - but sure, I will do that
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bear
yes to your question
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Nÿco
which one?
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bear
do you have a link to the log
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Nÿco
ah let me check
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bear
yes I feel everything shoud b archived - which would be handled by a log link
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bear
and the mailing list would serve as notice
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Kev
For what it's worth, I think sending semi-formal minutes is worthwhile. I think a copy of the typewith.me document very nearly covers that, if not completely.
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bear
ok
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Nÿco
like this
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Nÿco
http://xmpp.org:5290/muc_log/muc.xmpp.org/xsf/100907/
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Nÿco
http://xmpp.org:5290/muc_log/muc.xmpp.org/xsf/101110/
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bear
cool
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Kev
Thanks bear.
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bear
glad to help
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Nÿco
ok, the Mediawiki definitely needs an upgrade
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Nÿco
Neustradamus? do you wish to upgrade it?
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Kev
I will do this after the interop event.
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Kev
It's a big upgrade and I don't want to do it while we need the wiki for arranging stuffs.
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Nÿco
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Special:Version Product MediaWiki Version 1.13.2 http://www.mediawiki.org/
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Nÿco
Current version
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Nÿco
1.16.0 – 2010-07-28
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Nÿco
ah
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Nÿco
why not
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Nÿco
do you need help?
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Kev
No, I can do it - but my experience with upgrading mediawiki is that it tends to be painful.
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Kev
I guess we've enough time to fix it if it does go wrong and have it back for the interop.
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Kev
Ok, I'll have a look at it.
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Kev
But not tonight.
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Neustradamus
Kev: ok
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Nÿco
yes, painful is quite close to what I experienced also
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Neustradamus
after the update, you must add (a new time) the XMPP URIs -> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_URIs#MediaWiki
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Kev
Let's get to the upgrade first.
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Nÿco
yes, it's quite lower priority
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Neustradamus
yes yes
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Nÿco
though it would be nice to have XMPP URIs at the XSF ;-)
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Neustradamus
sure
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Kev
Nÿco: I wonder if this is something it's worth the XSF pursuing.
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Kev
A relatively low proportion of clients will deal with system-click xmpp: URIs.
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Nÿco
nevermind, if we don't have it, then who?
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Kev
Sorry, I realise you can read what I said either way.
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Kev
I mean:
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Kev
Maybe it's worth the XSF pursing this and persuading clients to implement xmpp: handlers.
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Neustradamus
Kev: yes
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Nÿco
ah yes, indeed I read the other way round ;-) (which was surprising from you ;-) )
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