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Nÿco
Council meeting in 0:30+? Board meeting in 1:30+
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Kev
Correct for the former, don't know about the latter :)
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Nÿco
;-)
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bear
running to the corner store - just realized I am without beverage of choice
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bear
why am I double posting?
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Kev
You're not.
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bear
psi is showing each twice, mine and yours
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Kev
I suspect that you've joined the MUC from two resources, and your server is routing the ghost one instead of rejecting it (which it should, but (almost?) no-one does yet, as it's a relatively recent bis-ism)
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MattJ
Prosody rejected it even before the spec was fixed :)
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bear
meeting notes and agenda: http://typewith.me/geydlB7gFR
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bear
Current working agenda: Agenda: - Roadmap - Summit 10 - Summit 10/FOSDEM - dividing responsibilities - Dinner - Limit to Members / Sponsors? - Location - Interop
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bear
meeting to start in 10 minutes, will shoot for 35-40 minute timeframe, 2 rounds of me with claws and knives if we get to 50 minutes
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bear
anyone have "eyes" on Jack? can they poke him
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Will
poked
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bear
oh - hehehe - I do also
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Will
he'll start to feel persecuted
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bear
or loved if he is into that kind of thing :/
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bear
florian was here ...
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jack
hi all
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bear
hi jack
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Florian
hi
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Nÿco
hi all
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bear
coolness - looks like we have 100%
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Florian
on the dot :)
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bear
anyone have any issues with the agenda as suggested by Nÿco
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stpeter
looks good to me
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bear
if so, edit the doc please
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bear
ok, Item 1 - Roadmap
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bear
I've started to edit the wiki page outlining this - not sure exactly (given my n00bness) what this involves
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bear
what was done last year?
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Will
nothing, which was kind of the point :-)
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Will
of doing something this year
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bear
ok then :) - i'll draft an email asking for suggestions and also giving some thoughts and report back next meeting - sound ok?
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Nÿco
ok
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stpeter
I think we had a good discussion among the members
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stpeter
we just need to capture the conclusions somewhere
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Nÿco
yes, thread needs summary
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stpeter
I'd suggest a wordpress page
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bear
yea, I was going to sift thru that for the big ideas
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stpeter
rather than wiki
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stpeter
I did post a summary
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Nÿco
ah
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Nÿco
missed it
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Nÿco
can you remind where?
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bear
oh coolness, that will make the task much easier
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stpeter
http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2010-October/006040.html
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stpeter
there was some discussion after that
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Nÿco
thx
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Will
the wiki is for dicussions, wordpress/xmpp.org for announcements - so wordpress page yes
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stpeter
but not much
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stpeter
right, this is a more permanent page
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Nÿco
ah yes, I remember now that I've read it
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bear
*editor note: can someone update the typewith.me doc*
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stpeter
it might not seem like it, but I'll have more time before long to help out further
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Nÿco
you can
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stpeter
bear: will do
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bear
i'm hoping to be able to offload some of this from you if you don't mind :)
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stpeter
from or to? :)
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bear
:)
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Will
on you :-)
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bear
any other issues to worry about with the roadmap?
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stpeter
bear: I think not
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bear
moving on to item 2 (speak up if not)
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stpeter
bear: the Council discussed this last week and concluded that focusing on MUC and file transfer for this term would be reasonable
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stpeter
bear: I'll find the log for you
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bear
k
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jack
seems good. i get a lot of questions about file transfer
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bear
link in the notes is fine
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stpeter
http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2010-October/006040.html
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
Summit?
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bear
yep
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Florian
yes :)
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Will
announcements are out to members, will post to other places soon
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bear
Will posted a great outline of the summit to the members list and has started a wiki page: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/FOSDEM_2011
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Florian
I've prepped a page on xmpp.org
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stpeter
oh cool, in typewithme you can choose your color :)
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stpeter
excellent
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Florian
http://xmpp.org/participate/the-xmpp-summit/xmpp-summit-10/
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Will
I wanted to talk about division of responsibilities
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Florian
is the FOSDEM booth / room confirmed?
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stpeter
Florian: the room is, not sure about the booth, let's check
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Florian
ok
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bear
I noticed we have already started the annual t-shirt discussion
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stpeter
stands have not yet been announced
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Will
but we did put in a request, yes?
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dwd
bear, Traditions are important.
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bear
to me that's always the sign when planning is started for real
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stpeter
http://fosdem.org/2011/ looks bad -- we need to put out a call for talks
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Will
we have
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stpeter
ah, so we need to tell them about the link :)
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Will
yes
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Florian
I wanted to start collecting participants on the XMPP.org page
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Florian
through comments
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stpeter
Florian: good idea
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stpeter
Will: I can let the FOSDEM organizers know
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Florian
I got someone at Nokia to forward a sponsor request
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Will
stpeter: thats why i wanted ot talk about responsibilities....
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Ping
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stpeter
:)
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stpeter
pong
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stpeter
Will: you mean we need to get organized?
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Florian
ok .. iPad works :)
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Will
we need to make sure that not everything is your responsibility this year. spread the load a bit
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stpeter
:P
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stpeter
yeah, sure
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stpeter
although others have done a lot in the past, e.g. Alex and Mickaël
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bear
what areas of need are there?
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Will
so for instance, if we get a booth, 'm happy to be the responsible adult for that :-)
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stpeter
Will: much needed
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dwd
"adult"?
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Will
shut up dwd, you're supposed to working
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Florian
I guess I'm not allowed to do anything :(
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dwd
Will, "from home" - doesn't count.
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bear
dinner? who's organizing
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Will
florian organises our social life
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Florian
:D
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Florian
I've been wondering ... Hotel ... Brussels vs. Diegem?
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stpeter
heehee
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stpeter
are there hotels in the boondocks of Diegem?
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dwd
stpeter, Bound to be some near the airport.
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Florian
any Brussels Airport Hotel, yes
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stpeter
Remko said the train to Diegem is a 15-minute ride from the center
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Florian
yeah
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stpeter
and leaves every 30 minutes
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dwd
Florian, Do they run late?
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stpeter
or something like that
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stpeter
late
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stpeter
?
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Florian
haha ... normally not
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stpeter
we'll be working late?
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Will
are we going for a hotel in brussels and ride out to diegem or the other way around?
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Florian
they're better than SouthWest Trains
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stpeter
yes
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Florian
Will: right ...
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Florian
Brussels at night has pubs
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Florian
and nice places
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stpeter
hotel in/near the center, train to the meetings
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dwd
Florian, So's a horse and cart.
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jack
better to be near the beer i think
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Florian
Diegem is quite industrial
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stpeter
right
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Florian
it's basically Airport land
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Florian
the only thing there are business parks
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Florian
and a small town center
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stpeter
yep
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Florian
Brussels is nicer
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stpeter
agreed
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Florian
and seeing as we have FOSDEM
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Will
trsut cisco to put an office somewhere boring ;-)
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stpeter
you betcha
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Florian
the thing on our Meetings
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Florian
they end at a certain tie
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stpeter
but at least we'll have Internet access this time
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Florian
*time
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Florian
FOSDEM is more flexible
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Florian
so I think it's nicer to be in Brussels
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Florian
yet ... I'll be the person living outside Brussels :p
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stpeter
yes we all agree :)
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Will
hotel organiser is ?
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stpeter
so we need to find a hotel that might give us a discount?
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Florian
I can be
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Florian
yes ... Discount Hotel
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Nÿco
ans Summit room?
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Florian
what about the one last year?
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Florian
good or bad?
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Nÿco
with hardcore wifi
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Nÿco
wifi sucked
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stpeter
Nÿco: I've arranged to use a meeting room at the Cisco office in Diegem, outside Brussels (near the airport)
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Nÿco
ok
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stpeter
boring location, but better connectivity
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Nÿco
fine
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stpeter
there is also a catering service of some kind, I need to find out more about that for lunch and coffee
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Florian
:)
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stpeter
so I can handle that stuff via Cisco
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bear
sounds like we have hotel/dinner consensus of some kind - who is going to follow up?
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Florian
ah
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Florian
Dinner up next?
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stpeter
yes, dinner
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Florian
so ...
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bear
who is point person for hotel?
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Florian
as posted to board@
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Nÿco
- devroom: ?? - hackfest: ??
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stpeter
Florian is hotel point person
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Florian
bear: I can manage hotel
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bear
k, sorry - just saw typewith.me update
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stpeter
Nÿco: right we need to discuss those, too
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Will
as Nyco pointed out, still need devroom and hackfest organisers
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Florian
Devroom is Saturday?
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stpeter
yes
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Will
yes
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Florian
no volunteers?
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Will
who is going to be there? stpeter? bear?
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bear
I am collecting speaker list but won't be able to coordinate space/location
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Florian
I can:)
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stpeter
regarding the devroom, we need someone to arrange the schedule of talks etc.
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bear
I can handle the talk schedule
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dwd
Kev?
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Florian
I'm a student ... so I've got loads of free time :)
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stpeter
haha
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Will
bear = devroom
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Florian
+1
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bear
with onsite help via florian ;)
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Florian
sure :)
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stpeter
I know some of the FOSDEM guys now so I can work with them onsite as needed
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Will
ok
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Florian
great
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Kev
Sorry, was saying Hi to Cath.
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stpeter
yes, Florian and I can work with the FOSDEM folks onsite
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Kev
What did you volunteer me for, Dave?
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stpeter
and Ralph, too, slackr that he is :)
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Will
Kev, it's ok you escaped
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Florian
haha
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Kev
Righty.
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bear
kev can do hackfest then
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Will
:-)
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Florian
:)
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stpeter
what's needed for the hackfest?
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Kev
Righty, am I going to FOSDEM then? )
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Kev
:)
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Nÿco
do we have a room for this?
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Florian
I'm trying to get some phones from Noknok
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Will
come up with interesting topics, herd cats
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bear
warm body for room?
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Florian
I guess start / announce on Friday .. prize on Monday
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stpeter
hackfest = interop or something more?
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stpeter
oh, that hackfest
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stpeter
the code contest?
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Florian
ohh
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Florian
/that/ hackfest
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Florian
Friday @ Cisco?
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stpeter
hackfest = Friday
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jack
i can bring more books for prizes
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stpeter
yeah, I need to do that too
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Florian
I'd say Interop and coding?
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stpeter
last year it was somewhat chaotic, no?
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Florian
with at the end a lightning round of "progress"?
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stpeter
perhaps our Interop Week folks can help organize some interop stuff on Friday
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stpeter
lightning talks are fun
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stpeter
yeah
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stpeter
that breaks it up a bit, too
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Florian
I'll be there on Friday this year too :)
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stpeter
me too
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stpeter
I think :)
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Florian
:)
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Florian
so yeah, Hackfest ... Interop & Jingle Mingle?
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bear
sounds like something for list discussion?
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Will
yes
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Florian
yup
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
take it to the list!
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Kev
Anyway, I'm happy to run Friday, assuming I'm going (and I'm assuming I'm going, but haven't discussed with anyone yet).
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bear
kev - can you start that list discussion?
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Kev
Can do. What would we like to do with the day?
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stpeter
that's the question :)
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bear
it needs to be engaging, so we may need to find out what the topics of interest are first
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bear
but it sounds like summary lightning talks are an "in"
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stpeter
I think I have a smaller room arranged for Friday, let me see how many it seats
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Florian
:)
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stpeter
I think it's 25
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stpeter
and 40 on Monday
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stpeter
or something like that
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stpeter
(round numbers)
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Florian
ok...
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bear
ok to move on to next item?
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Florian
+1
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stpeter
usually Friday is smaller
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stpeter
yep
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stpeter
almost up to 30 minutes here
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Florian
so ... I added Limiting Dinner to Members
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Nÿco
heckfest/interop around file transfer also
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Florian
and Sponsors
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Will
and me
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bear
dinner: question about limiting to members
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Florian
the problem:
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Florian
it's close to impossible to find a restaurant that will seat 50 geeks :)
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stpeter
Nÿco: yes
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
yeah
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Florian
in Brussels it's impossible
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Will
how aobut we dont tell them we're geeks?
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Florian
haha :)
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Kev
I don't see much reason to be seating people with no prior or subsequent interaction with the community.
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dwd
I raised this with Florian, and I'm fine with non-members turning up, but I'm not so happy that the XSF is subsidizing them.
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Florian
and there's a point to make ... Why should I be an XSF member?
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Will
Kev - money
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Florian
right
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Kev
Will: That would be an interaction.
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Kev
It happened this year that people turned up for FOSDEM, ate the food, and that was about all that I'd seen of them before or since.
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Florian
so I'd say.. limit it to XSF Member+1 and Sponsors
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dwd
Will, Oh, for sure - if someone's paying sufficient that the net result is that they're still subsidizing XSF members, great.
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bear
members and sponsor reps == great idea IMO
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Kev
I'm happy for sponsors to have seats, I'm happy for members to have seats.
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Kev
I don't see why non-community-members should get seats outside those groups, and certainly not why the XSF (through sponsors) should pay for them.
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Will
we've already told sponsors they can have seats: http://xmpp.org/sponsor/sponsor-the-xsf/
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Florian
indeed
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dwd
Will, Right, that's fine.
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Florian
I'd say ... Sponsors + Dinner Sponsors
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bear
sounds like we are all agreeing vigorously about the same small cluster of ideas - should we stamp it as board approved?
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Kev
Florian: And members? :)
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Will
yup
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Florian
oh yeah ... those too
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Florian
:p
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Florian
bear: yes!
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stpeter
so members can bring a guest, or non-members pay their own way?
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dwd
Florian, you suggested +1 - I'm not convinced that's needed. Yes, this is a social thing, but still.
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Florian
hmm
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Florian
what about "Dinner Sponsors"
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Florian
like Vodafone for example
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Florian
they're not a Sponsor
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stpeter
make them sponsors?
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Florian
but a "Dinner Sponsor"
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Kev
stpeter: Apart from sponsors, I think non-members should have to at least pay their way, if they're elligible at all.
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Florian
well ... Dinner sponsors are smaller contributions
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Florian
like 100€
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Florian
etc.
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stpeter
ah
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stpeter
right
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bear
that sounds like a great way to get a foot in the door to an organization for later larger sponsorship
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Will
dwd: some people turn up with partners, excluding them could lead to problems
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dwd
I'm fine with anyone showing up if they're paying (at least) their way.
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Florian
right
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Florian
so ... to sum up ...
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Florian
Members +1 for the price of the dinner (50€) Sponsors: As per Sponsor chart Dinner Sponsors
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Florian
those can get access...
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Florian
i.e. Nokia ... it's easier for them to sponsor a single dinner, than getting them to become an XSF sponsor
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Florian
don't ask me why ... it just is :)
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stpeter
yep
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Florian
so I want to keep the "dinner sponsor" thing going
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Florian
as we had loads of people just pitching in 100@
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bear
one is easier to hide in the accounting books :)
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Florian
€
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Florian
and the 100€ resulted each year in free food :)
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bear
sounds like we have consensus then on the dinner agenda item - true?
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Kev
From the balcony, yes.
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stpeter
now the challenge is to find a pace to eat :)
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Florian
ah right
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stpeter
+l
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Florian
Will will need to pay :D
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dwd
Florian, Ha!
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Florian
I guess that means Isode "Will" need to sponsor :D
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Florian
haha
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bear
k, next up - Interop
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Florian
I guess it's progressing ...
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Florian
I'd like to see this become an ongoing effort
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bear
I am liking the idea of doing this on a very regular basis
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Florian
i.e. keep the test servers up for longer
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Florian
because we spent a lot of time just setting them up, getting certs etc.
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stpeter
how "very"?
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stpeter
quarterly? monthly?
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bear
well, maybe not up all the time, but if we can get the configs documented ...
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Will
very regular could mean once every 10 years, hope you mean frequent
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stpeter
Florian: right, it would be good to build on all that work
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Kev
I don't think it's a good idea to have the servers stay up.
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Florian
every 2 months?
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bear
biologically regular, not astronically regular ;)
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Florian
for a week?
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bear
wow - what word was that I just typed
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Kev
I do think it's good to keep the configs (especially the CA) around.
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stpeter
Kev: yes
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dwd
Kev, Running up a CA, even, is pretty easy.
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bear
I think every 3 months with CA and DNS always up
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Kev
One week every 2 months is 13% of the participants time, if it takes them most of their time to do it.
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Florian
bear: +1
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Florian
quarterly
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bear
it doesn't have to be full time for someone all week
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Florian
that way, there's also progress in between
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Kev
bear: I've spent quite a lot of this week on it.
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Will
its better to aim low and over-perform than the other way around.
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bear
yea, but that's upfront setup - will that be required in 3 months?
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Kev
I don't see why it wouldn't.
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dwd
I have to say we're looking at one now, some interop activity at the summits - that's a lot of time on this.
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bear
ok, then let's use that as the baseline
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Kev
Another 6 months before another one would be good, I think.
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Ok...
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bear
6 months sounds ok to me
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stpeter
WFM
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Will
6 yes
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bear
especially since I have no dog in this hunt
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dwd
I'm fine with aiming for 6 months for the next online one. If we find a need to do one sooner, then that's also okay.
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Kev
Right.
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Kev
Doing them too often just devalues them.
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Ok... I mean we have the summits too
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Kev
If they become a burden for participants, there won't be any, and that's bad.
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
With interop action
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stpeter
agreed
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bear
doing server interop at the summit at oscon was *very* time consuming - especially for a one day event
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bear
so I could see summit interop being limited to clients and/or libs
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Hmm... Ok
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Kev
bear: If the summit has sensible 'net access, it's not impossible to re-use the infrastructure.
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bear
kev - true, that was what we spent a lot of time on - the net access was not sensible :(
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
That's why I want to keep it up
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bear
ok - we are at 45 minutes
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dwd
Kev, But we can also spin up a new CA for that easily. Same with DNS, it's not hard. Just that *any* interop setup like this takes time.
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stpeter
let's continue the interop discussion after this week finishes
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stpeter
and see how people feel then
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Right
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bear
+1 to tabling to after meeting and to the lists
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bear
ok, any other agenda items to consider?
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stpeter
then we'll have a better idea of costs and benefits
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Not from my end
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Will
none here
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stpeter
bear: I still owe you that old sponsor list, will do before Christmas
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bear
the next board meeting would be the 22nd of December - is that going to be too close to the holidays for anyone?
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bear
stpeter: thanks
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Nope
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stpeter
22nd is fine with me
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Will
i'm ok for 22nd
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jack
should be alright here
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bear
Nÿco?
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bear
ok, 22nd it is
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bear
thanks one and all for another great meeting
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Will
bye all
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stpeter
thanks, everyone
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Nÿco
thx
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
I guess that's a maybe...
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Fucking freezing my hands off here on this iCrap
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bear
stpeter - use the non-ietf muc link this time ;)
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stpeter
haha
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stpeter
hadn't noticed that
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admin@im.flosoft.biz
Bye guys
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stpeter
calendar updated in git, let's see if Tobias's auto-updating works :)
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bear
minutes emailed
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stpeter
thanks, bear
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bear
hmm, where do I edit this page: http://xmpp.org/xsf/board/
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stpeter
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/the-xsf-board-of-directors/ is the new link
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stpeter
we need to set up a whole bunch of redirects
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bear
I got to that page from the main page
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stpeter
so we need to fix some hrefs, too :)
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bear
hehehe
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stpeter
I need to spend some quality time with the website
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bear
the wiki main page I meant - sorry
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bear
i can fix that tho...
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stpeter
ah
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stpeter
ok
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bear
k, back to my regularly scheduled day off...
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
thanks, bear
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stpeter
I appreciate it
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bear
thanks to you also :)
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stpeter
:)
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bear
oh hey - been meaning to ask, sorry for the ambush: did GSoC funds arrive or is there anything we need to follow up with them?
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stpeter
I haven't seen the funds yet, but I'm not on the discussion list -- shall I ping LH?
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bear
I don't think it's been talked about at all - I can ping her with my "Admin" hat on
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stpeter
ok
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bear
I was just reminded because I got my tshirt in the mail
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stpeter
I don't remember the chronology of payment from years past
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bear
I can use "this being my first time, so forgive me my n00bness" wording then
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stpeter
:)
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stpeter
thanks
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