XSF Discussion - 2010-12-22

3 mins

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ok

I'm on the phone

I'm here

good

what's the agenda today?

I guess FOSDEM / Summit

Jack is not there?

nor is WIll

what about moving this meeting?

a week down the line?

not sure who is working next week :)

but we can chat among the three of us :)

no reminder no meeting?

wasn't it in the calendar?

it was

and the reminder was kinda sent by Will :)

somehow I don't receive pop-up reminders

I must tell I ama bit disappointed by the lack of concern of the board...

but I thikn that's an iCal issue

I got a pop-up

what can we do?

I don't think it's been too bad

so far, all the meetings, everyone was there

one thing that came up on the XMPP list was the idea of holding a joint XSF/IETF meeting at FOSDEM

e.g., on Monday

what does an IETF meeting involve?

to work on things that are of interest to the XMPP WG and the broader community -- especially internationalization, but also end-to-end encryption and server-to-server "piggybacking" (domain name assertions)

ok...

essentially, we would work on the agenda for Monday together with the chairs of the XMPP WG, who are Joe Hildebrand and Ben Campbell

and it might be easier for some people to get travel approvals

I guess a few XMPP guys are involved n IETF, and don't know the procedures

what about getting a second room at Cisco?

two tracks

maybe just for an hour or two

?

well, a side-track ... IETF for 2-3 hours

not sure how long these take, and what procedures there are

well, the internationalized address stuff is pretty critical :)

and that will take us a while to figure out

right ... but how does it differ from the normal summits?

it all makes your head hurt :)

i.e. are there things that we need to do formally

that we don't during the summits?

I don't think it would really be different

so wanna transform an XMPP Summit in IETF Summit?

well ... why not hold them joint then?

except that on Friday we would probably talk about some things that are not within the charter for the XMPP WG, and on Monday we would talk about things that are within the XMPP WG charter -- internationalization, end-to-end encryption, and server-to-server improvements

ok ...

how about this ...

monday ... have half of the day being IETF topics

could do that, too

and if we have other topics, from outside the IETF charter, those are still addressed

right

I think that would work fine

splitting up for more than an hour or two would be bad

as we want input from everyone really

agreed

Nÿco: do you agree with that?

i'll put it down for now ...

ok

I've got some news for the DevChallenge

cool

I still haven't taken care of the lunch / coffee stuff on Friday and Monday

Nokia is willing to give away a phone again

for a DevChallenge

that's great

they are researching the possibility of getting 20 phones again

I'd like to ask the Council if they have any ideas about the topics for the dev challenge

there is the Ovi Push Service (based on XMPP)

which is a topic Nokia is interested in

but maybe the council can come up with some other topics?

yes, let's poke them

stpeter: can you do that?

or bring it up on the Members list

or that

I like to make things more open if we can :)

sounds good :)

so will you take lead on that?

yes

next topic?

I wanted to bring up the massive Facebook debate

yep

heh ok

what's that?

the "official" Facebook page

nothing official

but we absolutely need to be there, one way or another, like any other successful service

right

we need to promote ourselves

I agree

whether it is by the Board/Council or by the community

I really don't have a problem with it :)

here, the community manages it, so be it

me n'either

I think it's a good idea

we can however officially demand the removal of 'official'

so why not make it official?

I wouldn't go as far as linking it on xmpp.org

because people have expressed strong opinions against it, which are right

t would be a strong message that the XSF supports this closed island

hmm

otherwise, we would need an "official" presence on Twitter as well

...and on any other successful service

hmm

successful being defined by many different ways

ok... so should we just take the position of saying ... promote XMPP wherever you want

but none of these services will be managed by the XSF

the only official page is XMPP.org

right

which is fine

right

I'm not a Facebook person, but I think it's fine to have a Facebook presence for people who use Facebook :)

ok

I can post about this to the members list

in my role as Executive Director :)

it needs a Board vote/approval maybe...

well, possibly, yes

hmm

ok

when is the next vote?

the Board can vote anytime it wants

right ... I thought a member vote

oh

I see no need for that

ok ...

so should we post the thing I just wrote down to the board list and get an approval?

yep

+1

great

anything else we need to talk about?

last points were?

oh

another issue

Voxeo page

do we have text?

I received a check from them :)

searching my inbox

ok

I have a logo

forwarded those to you stpeter

so we might need to ask them for text

ok

right

no text

in the past I've usually drafted those pages based on things I find on the sponsor's website :)

and then ask them for approval

or we can do that

I think that's the best approach

review? http://typewith.me/g942GwirVn

looks good

yup

so I'd say ... meeting adjourned :)

:)

yes

ok

thx

right ... thanks guys

and...

Merry Christmas

I'm off to get my luggage back

yes! Merry Xmas :)

good luck with that!

;-)

thanks, Nÿco -- thanks, Florian

thank you Peter