I must tell I ama bit disappointed by the lack of concern of the board...
stpeter
but I thikn that's an iCal issue
Florian
I got a pop-up
Nÿco
what can we do?
Florian
I don't think it's been too bad
Florian
so far, all the meetings, everyone was there
stpeter
one thing that came up on the XMPP list was the idea of holding a joint XSF/IETF meeting at FOSDEM
stpeter
e.g., on Monday
Florian
what does an IETF meeting involve?
stpeter
to work on things that are of interest to the XMPP WG and the broader community -- especially internationalization, but also end-to-end encryption and server-to-server "piggybacking" (domain name assertions)
Florian
ok...
stpeter
essentially, we would work on the agenda for Monday together with the chairs of the XMPP WG, who are Joe Hildebrand and Ben Campbell
stpeter
and it might be easier for some people to get travel approvals
Nÿco
I guess a few XMPP guys are involved n IETF, and don't know the procedures
Florian
what about getting a second room at Cisco?
stpeter
two tracks
Florian
maybe just for an hour or two
stpeter
?
Florian
well, a side-track ... IETF for 2-3 hours
Florian
not sure how long these take, and what procedures there are
stpeter
well, the internationalized address stuff is pretty critical :)
stpeter
and that will take us a while to figure out
Florian
right ... but how does it differ from the normal summits?
stpeter
it all makes your head hurt :)
Florian
i.e. are there things that we need to do formally
Florian
that we don't during the summits?
stpeter
I don't think it would really be different
Nÿco
so wanna transform an XMPP Summit in IETF Summit?
Florian
well ... why not hold them joint then?
stpeter
except that on Friday we would probably talk about some things that are not within the charter for the XMPP WG, and on Monday we would talk about things that are within the XMPP WG charter -- internationalization, end-to-end encryption, and server-to-server improvements
Florian
ok ...
Florian
how about this ...
Florian
monday ... have half of the day being IETF topics
stpeter
could do that, too
Florian
and if we have other topics, from outside the IETF charter, those are still addressed
stpeter
right
stpeter
I think that would work fine
Florian
splitting up for more than an hour or two would be bad
Florian
as we want input from everyone really
stpeter
agreed
Florian
Nÿco: do you agree with that?
Florian
i'll put it down for now ...
stpeter
ok
Florian
I've got some news for the DevChallenge
stpeter
cool
stpeter
I still haven't taken care of the lunch / coffee stuff on Friday and Monday
Florian
Nokia is willing to give away a phone again
Florian
for a DevChallenge
stpeter
that's great
Tobiashas left
Florian
they are researching the possibility of getting 20 phones again
Florian
I'd like to ask the Council if they have any ideas about the topics for the dev challenge
Florian
there is the Ovi Push Service (based on XMPP)
Florian
which is a topic Nokia is interested in
Florian
but maybe the council can come up with some other topics?
stpeter
yes, let's poke them
Florian
stpeter: can you do that?
stpeter
or bring it up on the Members list
Florian
or that
stpeter
I like to make things more open if we can :)
Florian
sounds good :)
Florian
so will you take lead on that?
stpeter
yes
Florian
next topic?
Florian
I wanted to bring up the massive Facebook debate
stpeter
yep
stpeter
heh ok
Nÿco
what's that?
Florian
the "official" Facebook page
Nÿco
nothing official
Nÿco
but we absolutely need to be there, one way or another, like any other successful service
Florian
right
Nÿco
we need to promote ourselves
Florian
I agree
Nÿco
whether it is by the Board/Council or by the community
stpeter
I really don't have a problem with it :)
Nÿco
here, the community manages it, so be it
Florian
me n'either
Florian
I think it's a good idea
Nÿco
we can however officially demand the removal of 'official'
Florian
so why not make it official?
Florian
I wouldn't go as far as linking it on xmpp.org
Nÿco
because people have expressed strong opinions against it, which are right
Nÿco
t would be a strong message that the XSF supports this closed island
Florian
hmm
Nÿco
otherwise, we would need an "official" presence on Twitter as well
Nÿco
...and on any other successful service
Florian
hmm
Nÿco
successful being defined by many different ways
Florian
ok... so should we just take the position of saying ... promote XMPP wherever you want
Florian
but none of these services will be managed by the XSF
Florian
the only official page is XMPP.org
stpeter
right
stpeter
which is fine
Florian
right
stpeter
I'm not a Facebook person, but I think it's fine to have a Facebook presence for people who use Facebook :)
Florian
ok
stpeter
I can post about this to the members list
stpeter
in my role as Executive Director :)
Nÿco
it needs a Board vote/approval maybe...
stpeter
well, possibly, yes
Florian
hmm
Florian
ok
Florian
when is the next vote?
stpeter
the Board can vote anytime it wants
Florian
right ... I thought a member vote
stpeter
oh
stpeter
I see no need for that
Florian
ok ...
Florian
so should we post the thing I just wrote down to the board list and get an approval?
Nÿco
yep
stpeter
+1
Florian
great
Florian
anything else we need to talk about?
Nÿco
last points were?
stpeter
oh
stpeter
another issue
stpeter
Voxeo page
stpeter
do we have text?
stpeter
I received a check from them :)
Florian
searching my inbox
stpeter
ok
Florian
I have a logo
Florian
forwarded those to you stpeter
stpeter
so we might need to ask them for text
stpeter
ok
Florian
right
Florian
no text
stpeter
in the past I've usually drafted those pages based on things I find on the sponsor's website :)