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Nÿco
3 mins
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Nÿco
http://typewith.me/g942GwirVn
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
I'm on the phone
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Florian
I'm here
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Nÿco
good
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Nÿco
what's the agenda today?
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Florian
I guess FOSDEM / Summit
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Nÿco
Jack is not there?
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Florian
nor is WIll
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Florian
what about moving this meeting?
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Florian
a week down the line?
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stpeter
not sure who is working next week :)
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stpeter
but we can chat among the three of us :)
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Nÿco
no reminder no meeting?
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stpeter
wasn't it in the calendar?
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Florian
it was
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Florian
and the reminder was kinda sent by Will :)
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stpeter
somehow I don't receive pop-up reminders
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Nÿco
I must tell I ama bit disappointed by the lack of concern of the board...
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stpeter
but I thikn that's an iCal issue
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Florian
I got a pop-up
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Nÿco
what can we do?
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Florian
I don't think it's been too bad
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Florian
so far, all the meetings, everyone was there
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stpeter
one thing that came up on the XMPP list was the idea of holding a joint XSF/IETF meeting at FOSDEM
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stpeter
e.g., on Monday
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Florian
what does an IETF meeting involve?
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stpeter
to work on things that are of interest to the XMPP WG and the broader community -- especially internationalization, but also end-to-end encryption and server-to-server "piggybacking" (domain name assertions)
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Florian
ok...
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stpeter
essentially, we would work on the agenda for Monday together with the chairs of the XMPP WG, who are Joe Hildebrand and Ben Campbell
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stpeter
and it might be easier for some people to get travel approvals
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Nÿco
I guess a few XMPP guys are involved n IETF, and don't know the procedures
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Florian
what about getting a second room at Cisco?
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stpeter
two tracks
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Florian
maybe just for an hour or two
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stpeter
?
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Florian
well, a side-track ... IETF for 2-3 hours
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Florian
not sure how long these take, and what procedures there are
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stpeter
well, the internationalized address stuff is pretty critical :)
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stpeter
and that will take us a while to figure out
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Florian
right ... but how does it differ from the normal summits?
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stpeter
it all makes your head hurt :)
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Florian
i.e. are there things that we need to do formally
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Florian
that we don't during the summits?
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stpeter
I don't think it would really be different
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Nÿco
so wanna transform an XMPP Summit in IETF Summit?
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Florian
well ... why not hold them joint then?
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stpeter
except that on Friday we would probably talk about some things that are not within the charter for the XMPP WG, and on Monday we would talk about things that are within the XMPP WG charter -- internationalization, end-to-end encryption, and server-to-server improvements
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Florian
ok ...
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Florian
how about this ...
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Florian
monday ... have half of the day being IETF topics
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stpeter
could do that, too
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Florian
and if we have other topics, from outside the IETF charter, those are still addressed
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stpeter
right
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stpeter
I think that would work fine
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Florian
splitting up for more than an hour or two would be bad
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Florian
as we want input from everyone really
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stpeter
agreed
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Florian
Nÿco: do you agree with that?
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Florian
i'll put it down for now ...
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stpeter
ok
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Florian
I've got some news for the DevChallenge
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stpeter
cool
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stpeter
I still haven't taken care of the lunch / coffee stuff on Friday and Monday
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Florian
Nokia is willing to give away a phone again
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Florian
for a DevChallenge
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stpeter
that's great
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Florian
they are researching the possibility of getting 20 phones again
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Florian
I'd like to ask the Council if they have any ideas about the topics for the dev challenge
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Florian
there is the Ovi Push Service (based on XMPP)
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Florian
which is a topic Nokia is interested in
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Florian
but maybe the council can come up with some other topics?
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stpeter
yes, let's poke them
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Florian
stpeter: can you do that?
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stpeter
or bring it up on the Members list
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Florian
or that
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stpeter
I like to make things more open if we can :)
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Florian
sounds good :)
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Florian
so will you take lead on that?
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stpeter
yes
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Florian
next topic?
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Florian
I wanted to bring up the massive Facebook debate
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stpeter
yep
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stpeter
heh ok
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Nÿco
what's that?
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Florian
the "official" Facebook page
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Nÿco
nothing official
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Nÿco
but we absolutely need to be there, one way or another, like any other successful service
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Florian
right
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Nÿco
we need to promote ourselves
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Florian
I agree
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Nÿco
whether it is by the Board/Council or by the community
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stpeter
I really don't have a problem with it :)
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Nÿco
here, the community manages it, so be it
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Florian
me n'either
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Florian
I think it's a good idea
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Nÿco
we can however officially demand the removal of 'official'
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Florian
so why not make it official?
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Florian
I wouldn't go as far as linking it on xmpp.org
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Nÿco
because people have expressed strong opinions against it, which are right
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Nÿco
t would be a strong message that the XSF supports this closed island
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Florian
hmm
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Nÿco
otherwise, we would need an "official" presence on Twitter as well
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Nÿco
...and on any other successful service
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Florian
hmm
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Nÿco
successful being defined by many different ways
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Florian
ok... so should we just take the position of saying ... promote XMPP wherever you want
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Florian
but none of these services will be managed by the XSF
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Florian
the only official page is XMPP.org
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stpeter
right
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stpeter
which is fine
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Florian
right
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stpeter
I'm not a Facebook person, but I think it's fine to have a Facebook presence for people who use Facebook :)
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Florian
ok
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stpeter
I can post about this to the members list
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stpeter
in my role as Executive Director :)
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Nÿco
it needs a Board vote/approval maybe...
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stpeter
well, possibly, yes
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Florian
hmm
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Florian
ok
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Florian
when is the next vote?
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stpeter
the Board can vote anytime it wants
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Florian
right ... I thought a member vote
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stpeter
oh
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stpeter
I see no need for that
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Florian
ok ...
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Florian
so should we post the thing I just wrote down to the board list and get an approval?
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Nÿco
yep
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stpeter
+1
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Florian
great
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Florian
anything else we need to talk about?
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Nÿco
last points were?
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stpeter
oh
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stpeter
another issue
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stpeter
Voxeo page
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stpeter
do we have text?
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stpeter
I received a check from them :)
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Florian
searching my inbox
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stpeter
ok
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Florian
I have a logo
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Florian
forwarded those to you stpeter
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stpeter
so we might need to ask them for text
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stpeter
ok
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Florian
right
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Florian
no text
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stpeter
in the past I've usually drafted those pages based on things I find on the sponsor's website :)
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stpeter
and then ask them for approval
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Florian
or we can do that
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stpeter
I think that's the best approach
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Nÿco
review? http://typewith.me/g942GwirVn
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stpeter
looks good
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Florian
yup
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Florian
so I'd say ... meeting adjourned :)
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stpeter
:)
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stpeter
yes
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Nÿco
ok
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Nÿco
thx
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Florian
right ... thanks guys
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Nÿco
and...
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Nÿco
Merry Christmas
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Florian
I'm off to get my luggage back
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Florian
yes! Merry Xmas :)
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stpeter
good luck with that!
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Nÿco
;-)
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stpeter
thanks, Nÿco -- thanks, Florian
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Nÿco
thank you Peter