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nyco
http://typewith.me/7kT3TW7Fb2 board meeting in 1 hour
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stpeter
darn I didn't set that up in the calendar
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nyco
no pb, everybody is aware of it ;-)
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
I'll post about it on identica 10-15 minutes before
- stpeter completes his yearly password change on the athena machine while he's at it
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MiGri
ah, good to know.
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bear
I just sent an email reminder
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bear
crap - I didn't see that nyco already setup a typewithme
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
MiGri: I changed only my personal password, although I'm working through changes to the mailing list passwords whenever I need to access the admin interfaces
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stpeter
http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo has a lot of lists....
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bear
most "mature" orgs do
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Florian
afternoon all
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stpeter
hi Florian!
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stpeter
brb
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bear
well poo - the summit wiki page redirects to the blog page
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bear
so much for using the wiki to allow collab
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Florian
hi all
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Florian
now on Psi :)
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Florian
was surprised to see that MUC worked on the N900
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Kev
You've seen MUC working on an N900 many months ago ;)
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Neustradamus
I wish you an happy new year !
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Neustradamus
thanks stpeter for your email. But about redirections ? it is dead ?
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stpeter
bear: we can reinstate the wiki page for collab stuff and then move things to the .org page as needed
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stpeter
Neustradamus: no, just didn't have time to do that at that moment
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bear
I found the fosdem wiki page that had the devroom section
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bear
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/FOSDEM_2011#Give_a_Devroom_Talk
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stpeter
right
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bear
the only speaker I know of for the summit itself is you and remko
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Neustradamus
stpeter: ok, it is same for mediawiki I think.
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Kev
stpeter: The action on redirections at the moment is that if someone gives me the list of redirects, it'll get done.
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Neustradamus
Kev: look my email ;)
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Kev
What's the title?
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Neustradamus
Redirections do not exist...
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Kev
I've not seen any mails yet telling me what needs redirecting and to where.
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Kev
Ok, will search now.
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Kev
Yes, I saw that mail, but unless someone tells me what the URLs need to redirect *to*, it's not much use.
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stpeter
redirect for http://xmpp.org/software/clients.shtml is now in place
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stpeter
I'll do the rest in the background here
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Neustradamus
ok thanks stpeter, Kev sorry the missing "to".
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stpeter
http://xmpp.org/software/servers.shtml done
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stpeter
http://xmpp.org/software/libraries.shtml done
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bear
board meeting notes: http://typewith.me/7kT3TW7Fb2
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Florian
so, who's missing?
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Florian
just Jack?
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bear
so far
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Neustradamus
stpeter: thanks
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Will
i've re-ordered the typewith.me agenda a bit so we can talk fosdem/summit before i need to go..
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Will
hope nobody minds
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stpeter
ok
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bear
np
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Florian
ok, so should we start?
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stpeter
+1
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Will
yup
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Florian
ok ... so ... FOSDEM I guess?
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Will
i note that the confirmations have been sent out to those who have got booths this year - did we get one?
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Neustradamus
stpeter: about overview.shtml I do not know...
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stpeter
Will: I just invited ralphm
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Will
ok
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Will
i have actions on booth activity - weve had a few volunteers, more will appear closer to the time
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Florian
ok
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Will
i also have actions on t-shirt, stickers, etc. - will get info to Board next week
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Will
I have used the discussions at the last board meeting as inspriation for a potential t-shirt design ....
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Neustradamus
stpeter: XMPP protocol informations... with a search of the link in a search engine.
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Will
http://willsheward.net/xmpp-design-1.jpg
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stpeter
http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2010-December/001116.html says they're still working on it
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nyco
why Facebook?
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Neustradamus
Will: :D
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Will
joke
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bear
neustradamus - can you defer talk about that till after meeting
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ralphm
I wouldn't wear design-1
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stpeter
haha
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Will
http://www.fosdem.org/2011/ - say "Stands - notifications sent"
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ralphm
xmpp doesn't love anyone :-D
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stpeter
how about the other way around? ;)
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bear
[F] <3 XMPP
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ralphm
bear: do you have inside information to confirm that?
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bear
nothing I can say in public :(
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Will
so, ralphm, have we heard anything from fosdem about the stand?
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ralphm
Will: about the stand. Now that stpeter asked, I'm unsure if we actually applied for a stand. I can't find it in my outbox anyway.
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Will
oh dear
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Will
that's going to make selling t-shirts a little challenging ;-)
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Florian
indeed
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Kev
No more challenging than last year, methinks.
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Florian
lol
- stpeter laughts
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Will
we'll have to just pile them all onto Florian and get him to walk around all day
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stpeter
I thought that Kev didn't like the word "methinks"
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Florian
a car boot sale :p
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Florian
maybe get a white Van :p
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bear
do we have any options to getting a stand or are we going to be begging for space on someone else's ?
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ralphm
in ernst, I don't think the fosdem crew would like that
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ralphm
bear: I would give the latter some chance
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bear
who needs to do the reaching out for that?
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Will
ok, so lets wait and see who does have a stand and then approach anyone we think might be generous?
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bear
+1
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Florian
but we do have a DevRoom, right?
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Will
yes
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Florian
and that's Saturday afternoon again?
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stpeter
I bet the Jitsi guys will let us use some of their space
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stpeter
yes we do have a devroom
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ralphm
to be honest, IMO the devroom does more for us than the stand
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stpeter
agreed
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Florian
true
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Will
agreed but the stand is fun
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Florian
just makes it harder to scam 20 phones :)
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bear
next item?
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Florian
Hotel?
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Florian
Best Western Last year: -> Free Executive Upgrade on rooms (price 436€) --> 109€ / night I sent an E-mail, asking them for a similar offer.
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Florian
Royal Windsor Hotel Grand Place 99 Euros per night per room 30€ / person / day American buffet breakfast Free Internet
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stpeter
I just pinged the fosdem@ list about a list of assigned stands
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Will
stpeter: thanks
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Florian
Le Meridien 178 € double rooms, breakfast included
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Florian
Novotel Brussels Off Grand Place Full. Looking for alternate offers from Accor.
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Florian
Hotel Le Dixseptième 230€ / night
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Florian
those are the offers so far
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Florian
all Hotels are around the Grand Place
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Will
do we (xsf members) have experience of staying at any of above?
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Florian
so in the centre and close to the station
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Will
any recommendations?
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Florian
last year's Hotel
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Florian
the Best Western
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Florian
and Meridien: Fritzy
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Will
does the best western price include breakfast?
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stpeter
last year's was fine
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Florian
it did last year
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Florian
didn't it?
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stpeter
Ralph likes the Atlas, which is just down the street
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Will
did it include bacon?
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stpeter
yes, breakfast was included last year
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Florian
right
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stpeter
Will: I have never seen so much bacon
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Will
awesome
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Florian
I'll add Atlas to the list
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Florian
and get an offer from them
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stpeter
ok
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Florian
I'm looking for a price of 120€ / room incl. breakfast
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Florian
thing is ... Atlas is more expensive
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Florian
or very similar
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Florian
but I will enquire about a package deal
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Will
i'm guessing we need to make a decision quick?
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Florian
do the 120€ / room sound good?
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stpeter
yes we should
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Florian
±10€
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stpeter
I'd be happy with the Best Western again -- no real difference from the Atlas really in my experience
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bear
people will be planning now if they haven't already
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Florian
right, I'll send another mail to the summit list
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Florian
that we'll get a hotel in the next few days
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stpeter
ok
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bear
cool
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Will
ok
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Florian
so I'll get the offers hopefully tomorrow
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bear
any other fosdem/summit items?
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Florian
Dinner
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stpeter
do we have enough devroom talks lined up?
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Florian
I'm going round eating
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stpeter
ah yes
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Florian
and I'll drop a few propositions to the list tomorrow
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stpeter
super
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bear
we have 3 speakers for dev rooms and 1 possible (someone who emailed but hasn't responded back)
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stpeter
ah we need more speakers then
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Kev
If anyone has suggestions for something I could talk about, yay. I can't think of anything I know about that's particularly interesting for a talk though :)
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Will
need to push hard on this
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Will
how about pressing last year's speakers to give lightning talks on developments with their projects in last 12 months?
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stpeter
the things I could talk about are not so interesting to the general public :)
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Florian
that's a good idea :)
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bear
if we have that list - that's a great idea
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bear
if someone points me to the list i'll contact them
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bear
i'll also crosspost another request for speakers
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Florian
http://xmpp.org/participate/the-xmpp-summit/xmpp-summit-8/
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stpeter
http://xmpp.org/participate/the-xmpp-summit/xmpp-summit-8/#saturday
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
yeah
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bear
ok, i'll start reaching out to them
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stpeter
can we play "Stump the Experts" again?
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Florian
+1
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Will
+1
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Kev
Sounds good.
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Kev
That had the room packed even by usual standards.
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stpeter
it seemed fun at the time :)
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stpeter
maybe we can get Thiago to give an update about Jingle Nodes
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stpeter
etc.
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Florian
:)
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bear
I've added the Stump topic
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stpeter
k
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stpeter
I'll poke some folks on and off the lists
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bear
anything else summit/fosdem related?
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Will
not here
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bear
k, moving on then
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bear
RFCbis migration - who wants to talk about that?
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stpeter
there is Monday and the interim meeting for the XMPP WG
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stpeter
what do we mean by bis migration?
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stpeter
as in, when are the specs to be done, or when will software migrate?
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bear
not sure - it was put into the agenda by someone else
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
as you can see from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis/ballot/ all the "DISCUSSes" have cleared
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bear
k, let's move on - it can be brought up again if need be
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stpeter
so 3920 is ready to move ahead, I think
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bear
anyone want to continue to glance akwardly at RFCbis or shall we move on?
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Florian
ah ... just a last note on FOSDEM: Can we get some more dinner sponsors (Collabora?)
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Will
we'll chip in some money
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stpeter
3921bis is on the agenda for 2 weeks from now https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-3921bis/
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bear
The last item on the agenda is just a note that Fritzy and myself will be starting to reach out to client and lib devs to start getting some interop interest going
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stpeter
cool
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Kev
bear: Noting that we're not due another formal interop event for ~=6 months :)
- stpeter follows up with Alexey about https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-address/
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bear
kev - agreed and understood - I think it will take months to reach out and engage with most of them
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stpeter
right
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stpeter
but if we do that now, we'll have more participants next time
- bear makes note to start a wiki page about that list
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bear
ok, any other agenda items someone wants to insert?
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bear
we are approaching the 30 min mark and i'm feeling itchy to bang the gavel
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Florian
not here
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Florian
except: we need sponsors :)
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Florian
for the dinner :)
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
I'll think about people to poke
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Florian
so far we've got 775€
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bear
what is the dollar amount for sponsoring?
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Florian
we don't have a minimum limit
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Florian
last year's dinner donations were: http://xmpp.org/participate/the-xmpp-summit/xmpp-summit-8/#dinner
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bear
how do I send you some money then - i'll sponsor a seat at the table in my place
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Florian
eh, stpeter?
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stpeter
eh?
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stpeter
I'll poke some folks about sponsoring
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Florian
for people who aren't attending, yet willing to sponsor?
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Florian
like bear
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stpeter
oh
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
haven't heard of that before
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Florian
maybe bank transfer to the XSF?
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bear
i'll mail stpeter a check
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Florian
or that way :)
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Florian
just drop me a line with the amount, and I'll add you to the list :)
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bear
ok, I think we are done then for this meeting - any dissent?
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Will
none here
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Florian
none :)
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stpeter
I need to add our postal address to http://xmpp.org/participate/contact-us/
- bear bangs the gavel and closes the meeting
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bear
thanks all for attending
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Kev
Thanks bear.
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Kev
(And all)
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Florian
thanks all :)
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bear
next meeting Jan 19th - same time and place
- stpeter updates the calendar this time
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bear
:)
- bear finalizes minutes and sends to list
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stpeter
Board and Council calendars updated
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bear
thanks stpeter
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stpeter
I suppose we should add the various FOSDEM-related activities to the XSF calendar, eh?
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bear
that would be very nice
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stpeter
yeah
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bear
i'm going to push the draft blog post now reminding folks about the summit
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stpeter
I'll need to figure out the times
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stpeter
super
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bear
if you put the items in using UTC, then the receiving calendars will adjust
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bear
odd, if you click on the "donate" button - suddenly the postal address appears on the contact-us page
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
ok, FOSDEM events added to the XSF calendar
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bear
wynkoop street - suite 600 -- still valid?
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stpeter
yepper
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stpeter
I wouldn't have added it otherwise :)
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bear
k, i'll clear the amount with my "boss" and send you a check
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stpeter
I just added that, perhaps you're running into a caching issue
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bear
ohhh
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bear
yea, the donate button just goes back to that page
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stpeter
I like the realtime search stuff on the homepage
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bear
yea, that's very neat
- stpeter pushes out a revised version of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check/
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bear
\o/
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bear
ok, heading out to get lunch in the time I have remaining from $dayjob lunch break ;)
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stpeter
:)
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stpeter
that's the second time in the last 24 hours that I've seen $dayjob
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stpeter
must be going around
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stpeter
hadn't seen it before
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bear
I swiped it from one of the Sun guys who swiped it from one of the IBMers - so it's a enterprise thang
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bear
well, that and oldschool perl coders I think
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stpeter
sure
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stpeter
my $dayjob at $bigco
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bear
exactly
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stpeter
:)
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Kev
I use $genericthing from time to time.
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stpeter
brb
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ralphm
$adjective $time_of_day!