XSF Discussion - 2011-01-05

http://typewith.me/7kT3TW7Fb2 board meeting in 1 hour

darn I didn't set that up in the calendar

no pb, everybody is aware of it ;-)

heh

I'll post about it on identica 10-15 minutes before

ah, good to know.

I just sent an email reminder

crap - I didn't see that nyco already setup a typewithme

heh

MiGri: I changed only my personal password, although I'm working through changes to the mailing list passwords whenever I need to access the admin interfaces

http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo has a lot of lists....

most "mature" orgs do

afternoon all

hi Florian!

brb

well poo - the summit wiki page redirects to the blog page

so much for using the wiki to allow collab

hi all

now on Psi :)

was surprised to see that MUC worked on the N900

You've seen MUC working on an N900 many months ago ;)

I wish you an happy new year !

thanks stpeter for your email. But about redirections ? it is dead ?

bear: we can reinstate the wiki page for collab stuff and then move things to the .org page as needed

Neustradamus: no, just didn't have time to do that at that moment

I found the fosdem wiki page that had the devroom section

http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/FOSDEM_2011#Give_a_Devroom_Talk

right

the only speaker I know of for the summit itself is you and remko

stpeter: ok, it is same for mediawiki I think.

stpeter: The action on redirections at the moment is that if someone gives me the list of redirects, it'll get done.

Kev: look my email ;)

What's the title?

Redirections do not exist...

I've not seen any mails yet telling me what needs redirecting and to where.

Ok, will search now.

Yes, I saw that mail, but unless someone tells me what the URLs need to redirect *to*, it's not much use.

redirect for http://xmpp.org/software/clients.shtml is now in place

I'll do the rest in the background here

ok thanks stpeter, Kev sorry the missing "to".

http://xmpp.org/software/servers.shtml done

http://xmpp.org/software/libraries.shtml done

board meeting notes: http://typewith.me/7kT3TW7Fb2

so, who's missing?

just Jack?

so far

stpeter: thanks

i've re-ordered the typewith.me agenda a bit so we can talk fosdem/summit before i need to go..

hope nobody minds

ok

np

ok, so should we start?

+1

yup

ok ... so ... FOSDEM I guess?

i note that the confirmations have been sent out to those who have got booths this year - did we get one?

stpeter: about overview.shtml I do not know...

Will: I just invited ralphm

ok

i have actions on booth activity - weve had a few volunteers, more will appear closer to the time

ok

i also have actions on t-shirt, stickers, etc. - will get info to Board next week

I have used the discussions at the last board meeting as inspriation for a potential t-shirt design ....

stpeter: XMPP protocol informations... with a search of the link in a search engine.

http://willsheward.net/xmpp-design-1.jpg

http://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2010-December/001116.html says they're still working on it

why Facebook?

Will: :D

joke

neustradamus - can you defer talk about that till after meeting

I wouldn't wear design-1

haha

http://www.fosdem.org/2011/ - say "Stands - notifications sent"

xmpp doesn't love anyone :-D

how about the other way around? ;)

[F] <3 XMPP

bear: do you have inside information to confirm that?

nothing I can say in public :(

so, ralphm, have we heard anything from fosdem about the stand?

Will: about the stand. Now that stpeter asked, I'm unsure if we actually applied for a stand. I can't find it in my outbox anyway.

oh dear

that's going to make selling t-shirts a little challenging ;-)

indeed

No more challenging than last year, methinks.

lol

we'll have to just pile them all onto Florian and get him to walk around all day

I thought that Kev didn't like the word "methinks"

a car boot sale :p

maybe get a white Van :p

do we have any options to getting a stand or are we going to be begging for space on someone else's ?

in ernst, I don't think the fosdem crew would like that

bear: I would give the latter some chance

who needs to do the reaching out for that?

ok, so lets wait and see who does have a stand and then approach anyone we think might be generous?

+1

but we do have a DevRoom, right?

yes

and that's Saturday afternoon again?

I bet the Jitsi guys will let us use some of their space

yes we do have a devroom

to be honest, IMO the devroom does more for us than the stand

agreed

true

agreed but the stand is fun

just makes it harder to scam 20 phones :)

next item?

Hotel?

Best Western Last year: -> Free Executive Upgrade on rooms (price 436€) --> 109€ / night I sent an E-mail, asking them for a similar offer.

Royal Windsor Hotel Grand Place 99 Euros per night per room 30€ / person / day American buffet breakfast Free Internet

I just pinged the fosdem@ list about a list of assigned stands

stpeter: thanks

Le Meridien 178 € double rooms, breakfast included

Novotel Brussels Off Grand Place Full. Looking for alternate offers from Accor.

Hotel Le Dixseptième 230€ / night

those are the offers so far

all Hotels are around the Grand Place

do we (xsf members) have experience of staying at any of above?

so in the centre and close to the station

any recommendations?

last year's Hotel

the Best Western

and Meridien: Fritzy

does the best western price include breakfast?

last year's was fine

it did last year

didn't it?

Ralph likes the Atlas, which is just down the street

did it include bacon?

yes, breakfast was included last year

right

Will: I have never seen so much bacon

awesome

I'll add Atlas to the list

and get an offer from them

ok

I'm looking for a price of 120€ / room incl. breakfast

thing is ... Atlas is more expensive

or very similar

but I will enquire about a package deal

i'm guessing we need to make a decision quick?

do the 120€ / room sound good?

yes we should

±10€

I'd be happy with the Best Western again -- no real difference from the Atlas really in my experience

people will be planning now if they haven't already

right, I'll send another mail to the summit list

that we'll get a hotel in the next few days

ok

cool

ok

so I'll get the offers hopefully tomorrow

any other fosdem/summit items?

Dinner

do we have enough devroom talks lined up?

I'm going round eating

ah yes

and I'll drop a few propositions to the list tomorrow

super

we have 3 speakers for dev rooms and 1 possible (someone who emailed but hasn't responded back)

ah we need more speakers then

If anyone has suggestions for something I could talk about, yay. I can't think of anything I know about that's particularly interesting for a talk though :)

need to push hard on this

how about pressing last year's speakers to give lightning talks on developments with their projects in last 12 months?

the things I could talk about are not so interesting to the general public :)

that's a good idea :)

if we have that list - that's a great idea

if someone points me to the list i'll contact them

i'll also crosspost another request for speakers

http://xmpp.org/participate/the-xmpp-summit/xmpp-summit-8/

http://xmpp.org/participate/the-xmpp-summit/xmpp-summit-8/#saturday

heh

yeah

ok, i'll start reaching out to them

can we play "Stump the Experts" again?

+1

+1

Sounds good.

That had the room packed even by usual standards.

it seemed fun at the time :)

maybe we can get Thiago to give an update about Jingle Nodes

etc.

:)

I've added the Stump topic

k

I'll poke some folks on and off the lists

anything else summit/fosdem related?

not here

k, moving on then

RFCbis migration - who wants to talk about that?

there is Monday and the interim meeting for the XMPP WG

what do we mean by bis migration?

as in, when are the specs to be done, or when will software migrate?

not sure - it was put into the agenda by someone else

ok

as you can see from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis/ballot/ all the "DISCUSSes" have cleared

k, let's move on - it can be brought up again if need be

so 3920 is ready to move ahead, I think

anyone want to continue to glance akwardly at RFCbis or shall we move on?

ah ... just a last note on FOSDEM: Can we get some more dinner sponsors (Collabora?)

we'll chip in some money

3921bis is on the agenda for 2 weeks from now https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-3921bis/

The last item on the agenda is just a note that Fritzy and myself will be starting to reach out to client and lib devs to start getting some interop interest going

cool

bear: Noting that we're not due another formal interop event for ~=6 months :)

kev - agreed and understood - I think it will take months to reach out and engage with most of them

right

but if we do that now, we'll have more participants next time

ok, any other agenda items someone wants to insert?

we are approaching the 30 min mark and i'm feeling itchy to bang the gavel

not here

except: we need sponsors :)

for the dinner :)

ok

I'll think about people to poke

so far we've got 775€

what is the dollar amount for sponsoring?

we don't have a minimum limit

last year's dinner donations were: http://xmpp.org/participate/the-xmpp-summit/xmpp-summit-8/#dinner

how do I send you some money then - i'll sponsor a seat at the table in my place

eh, stpeter?

eh?

I'll poke some folks about sponsoring

for people who aren't attending, yet willing to sponsor?

like bear

oh

heh

haven't heard of that before

maybe bank transfer to the XSF?

i'll mail stpeter a check

or that way :)

just drop me a line with the amount, and I'll add you to the list :)

ok, I think we are done then for this meeting - any dissent?

none here

none :)

I need to add our postal address to http://xmpp.org/participate/contact-us/

thanks all for attending

Thanks bear.

(And all)

thanks all :)

next meeting Jan 19th - same time and place

:)

Board and Council calendars updated

thanks stpeter

I suppose we should add the various FOSDEM-related activities to the XSF calendar, eh?

that would be very nice

yeah

i'm going to push the draft blog post now reminding folks about the summit

I'll need to figure out the times

super

if you put the items in using UTC, then the receiving calendars will adjust

odd, if you click on the "donate" button - suddenly the postal address appears on the contact-us page

ok

ok, FOSDEM events added to the XSF calendar

wynkoop street - suite 600 -- still valid?

yepper

I wouldn't have added it otherwise :)

k, i'll clear the amount with my "boss" and send you a check

I just added that, perhaps you're running into a caching issue

ohhh

yea, the donate button just goes back to that page

I like the realtime search stuff on the homepage

yea, that's very neat

\o/

ok, heading out to get lunch in the time I have remaining from $dayjob lunch break ;)

:)

that's the second time in the last 24 hours that I've seen $dayjob

must be going around

hadn't seen it before

I swiped it from one of the Sun guys who swiped it from one of the IBMers - so it's a enterprise thang

well, that and oldschool perl coders I think

sure

my $dayjob at $bigco

exactly

:)

I use $genericthing from time to time.

brb

$adjective $time_of_day!