VanaryonI would like to submit a little change to the microblogging XEP (file attach feature), can I speak about it here?
KevTry the standards@ list.
VanaryonAll right, thanks ;)
VanaryonIt's a missing feature for microblogging, that you can see running in Jappix (https://www.jappix.com/) ;) I will send a little mail
VanaryonKev, do you know any other XMPP client using this XEP right now?
VanaryonI'd like to see how others are integrating it in their clients ;)
KevNo, I think everyone decided the XEP wasn't much use and is waiting for / work ing on something better.
VanaryonOkay, I see. So a complete XEP revision will be done (another XML scheme, ...) ?
VanaryonMessage sent to standards@ ;)
VanaryonDid you received it? I did not get mine from the list, that's strange :S (or your ML server does not send the sender message back to him?)
KevI've not received it. Are you subscribed?
VanaryonMy message is HTML encoded, does this affect the ML server?
VanaryonStrange, I did not get it back again. Are the ML servers up?
KevIt's fairly unlikely that they aren't.
VanaryonMaye I should send the mail to someone of you who will send it via their own address?
KevCan do if you want.
VanaryonI PM-ed you ;)
stpeterVanaryon: you need to send the message from the same address you used to subscribe
Vanaryonstpeter : I did ;)
Kevstpeter: I already checked that.
KevOr asked that, rather.
stpetergoes back to reviewing http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-08
beari'm wondering with all of the TZ changes if folks are going to be -1 and +1 on the meeting time
KevCouncil managed - it'd be a sad reflection on Board if they couldn't ;)
stpeterI'm coming to loathe daylight saving time
beartho i don't have your tech-jetsetter roblems
bearwe don't have a quorum I think - any pressing issues that need looking into?
KevI'm not going to bug anyone about GSoC this week :)
bearyea - we are pending
bearok, 5 or so minutes and i think we should call it
beark, i'll draft an email asking for agenda items for next mtg. will be busier as that is post gsoc deadline
stpeterI'll be here next week and then offline the following week
Willi've missed a meeting haven't i?
stpeterI think bear just called it on account of quorum
Willi'm useless, I will do penance by editing web pages on xmpp.org
jacki won't be availbale next week, as i'm teaching a class on XMPP in San Fran
stpeterWill: yeah I stalled on that because I got busy with IETF preparations
Willi don't envy you
stpeteralso the RFC revisions are very close to being published, so I've had final review work with the RFC Editor
bearnext week will probably be gsoc planning if we are accepted
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Alexhey guys, how are you?
stpeterhi Alex :)
stpeterdo we have a quorum?
Alexyes we do
Alexok, lets start
Alexbangs the gavel
Alexour Agenda for today is here:
Alex1) Call for Quorum
Alex41 members have voted via proxy, so we have a quorum
Alex2) Items Subject to a Vote
AlexNew and Returning members , you can find the applications here:
Alex3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
Alexdoes anybody wants to vote in the meeting?
stpeterI think everyone here has voted
kurt.zeilengaAlex, I like to request my votes, currently attributed to email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>, be attributed to my JID of record, email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>.
kurt.zeilengathat is, email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>/email@example.com/ in the records/minutes.
Alexno problem Kurt
stpeterkurt.zeilenga: do we have cryptographic assurance that firstname.lastname@example.org is controlled by the same person who controls email@example.com? ;-)
Alexok , lemme prepare the results
Tobiasstpeter: can't you assure that by reading through years of chat archives of the firstname.lastname@example.org account? :D
stpeterTobias: perhaps :)
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Alex4) Announcement of Voting Results
Alexwhen you relead the page at:
you can see the results
Alexall new and returning members were accepted
Alex5) Any Other Business?
stpeterI still need to propose a change to the bylaws about membership application periods
stpeteri.e., the clause about "Applications from prospective new members shall be accepted during the first 10 days of each quarter (i.e., in January, April, July, and October)"
Alexyes, and we have to finanlize the changed Dave proposed before the next board and council vote
stpeterI don't remember that change
Alexdon't remeber exactly either, have to check in the archieves again
stpeterso we need to get those proposals onto the agenda for the next meeting
stpeterthat way, they will apply in September
KevDid Dave get as far as proposing?
KevI don't remember if he proposed, or proposed to propose.
stpetersends an email about it *right now*
Alexits in this thread:
Alex6) Formal Adjournment
stpeterhmm, there are some formatting glitches at http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xsf-bylaws/ -- Will and I shall add that to our list of pages to fix
AlexI motion that we adjourn
Alexbangs the gavel
stpeterthank you, Alex!
Alexhad discussions with dave about a new memberbot, based on sleek, lua or swiften
Alexwe thought the members could decide on a framework and tsrat hacking on it
stpeterlooks good, now I'll return to my review of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-arch-12 -- oh joy! ;-)
Alexneed some food and have to watch the news, back later
Neustradamusit is planned to update history ? http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/history/
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stpeterNeustradamus: yes, that's another page to be updated :)
stpeterNeustradamus: do you have editing privileges in WordPress?
NeustradamusCan you add a link to the mediawiki(http://wiki.xmpp.org/) ? example in the top menu ?
NeustradamusI think yes
stpeterNeustradamus: where do you think the link to the wiki belongs? under "Resources"?
stpeteroh joy, I found a bug in Firefox that is causing my browser to freeze
Neustradamusthe best solution will be "alone" : Wiki
KevI don't think it deserves a top-level link. Below resources seems reasonable.
stpeterI suppose I'll need to report this bug, because I can reproduce it...
Neustradamusyes, I accept in resources
Neustradamusit is possible to redirect http://xmpp.net/ to http://xmpp.org/resources/certificates/ ?
stpeterI thought I had done that already
Neustradamusstrange, I see always the "old page".
stpeterok, I'll add it to my list of things to check when I have time
Neustradamusit is on your todo list too : http://xmpp.org/services/ ?
stpeterNeustradamus: I'll update the history page when the new RFCs are published
stpeteryes we need to fix the services page -- I know for a fact that the .xml file is used by clients (e.g., Miranda), and for now we might need to made the edits in the xml file and in WordPress (two edits instead of one, but at least we'll update the data!!!)
dwdOnly three votes against me? I'm obviously failing to be suffieicntly contraversial.
KevI think I usually manage significantly more than that.
dwdNobody made me a wikipedia page, though. :-(
stpeterI wonder if http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-ghostbusters-00 will run afoul of trademark laws
stpeterdwd: you don't have a wikipedia page? shocking!
dwdstpeter, I know, I just don't understand it.
dwdstpeter, And as for sidr-ghostbusters, I suspect different fields of endevour.
stpeterdwd: there is no justice in the world!
dwdstpeter, There is no justice, there's just us.™
dwdApparently Malcolm X. Always wondered that.
stpeterIs that Malcolm X™ ?
bearoh poo - completely missed the meeting (hardware failure and #FAIL on me for not having a backup)
stpeterI don't have a backup system either, really