I would like to submit a little change to the microblogging XEP (file attach feature), can I speak about it here?
Kev
Try the standards@ list.
Vanaryon
All right, thanks ;)
Vanaryon
It's a missing feature for microblogging, that you can see running in Jappix (https://www.jappix.com/) ;) I will send a little mail
Vanaryon
Kev, do you know any other XMPP client using this XEP right now?
Vanaryon
I'd like to see how others are integrating it in their clients ;)
Kev
No, I think everyone decided the XEP wasn't much use and is waiting for / work ing on something better.
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Okay, I see. So a complete XEP revision will be done (another XML scheme, ...) ?
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Vanaryon
Message sent to standards@ ;)
stpeter
thanks!
Vanaryon
Did you received it? I did not get mine from the list, that's strange :S (or your ML server does not send the sender message back to him?)
Kev
I've not received it. Are you subscribed?
Vanaryon
Kev, yes
Vanaryon
Sent again
Vanaryon
My message is HTML encoded, does this affect the ML server?
Vanaryon
Strange, I did not get it back again. Are the ML servers up?
Kev
It's fairly unlikely that they aren't.
Vanaryon
Maye I should send the mail to someone of you who will send it via their own address?
Vanaryon
*Maybe
Kev
Can do if you want.
Vanaryon
I PM-ed you ;)
Kev
I know.
stpeter
heh
stpeter
Vanaryon: you need to send the message from the same address you used to subscribe
Vanaryon
stpeter : I did ;)
Kev
stpeter: I already checked that.
Kev
Or asked that, rather.
stpeter
ok
stpetergoes back to reviewing http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-08
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bear
i'm wondering with all of the TZ changes if folks are going to be -1 and +1 on the meeting time
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Kev
Council managed - it'd be a sad reflection on Board if they couldn't ;)
bear
:P
stpeter
hi
bear
hi
stpeter
I'm coming to loathe daylight saving time
bear
same
bear
tho i don't have your tech-jetsetter roblems
bear
we don't have a quorum I think - any pressing issues that need looking into?
Kev
I'm not going to bug anyone about GSoC this week :)
bear
yea - we are pending
stpeter
:)
bear
ok, 5 or so minutes and i think we should call it
stpeter
WFM
bear
k, i'll draft an email asking for agenda items for next mtg. will be busier as that is post gsoc deadline
bearbangs gavel
stpeter
yep
stpeter
I'll be here next week and then offline the following week
bear
k
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Will
i've missed a meeting haven't i?
stpeter
well
stpeter
I think bear just called it on account of quorum
Will
i'm useless, I will do penance by editing web pages on xmpp.org
jack
i won't be availbale next week, as i'm teaching a class on XMPP in San Fran
stpeter
jack: cool
stpeter
Will: yeah I stalled on that because I got busy with IETF preparations
Will
i don't envy you
stpetershrugs
stpeter
also the RFC revisions are very close to being published, so I've had final review work with the RFC Editor
bear
next week will probably be gsoc planning if we are accepted
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Alex
hey guys, how are you?
stpeter
hi Alex :)
stpeter
do we have a quorum?
Alex
yes we do
Kev
Yay.
stpeter
ah, good
Alex
ok, lets start
Alexbangs the gavel
Alex
our Agenda for today is here:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-03-16/
Alex
1) Call for Quorum
Alex
41 members have voted via proxy, so we have a quorum
Alex
2) Items Subject to a Vote
Alex
New and Returning members , you can find the applications here:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_February_2011
Alex
3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
Alex
does anybody wants to vote in the meeting?
stpeter
I think everyone here has voted
kurt.zeilenga
Alex, I like to request my votes, currently attributed to kdz@jabber.org <mailto:kdz@jabber.org>, be attributed to my JID of record, kurt.zeilenga@isode.com <mailto:kurt.zeilenga@isode.com>.
Neustradamus
hi all
kurt.zeilenga
that is, s/kdz@jabber.org <mailto:s/kdz@jabber.org>/kurt.zeilenga@isode.com/ in the records/minutes.
Alex
no problem Kurt
stpeter
kurt.zeilenga: do we have cryptographic assurance that kdz@jabber.org is controlled by the same person who controls kurt.zeilenga@isode.com? ;-)
kurt.zeilenga
no.
Alex
ok , lemme prepare the results
Tobias
stpeter: can't you assure that by reading through years of chat archives of the kdz@jabber.org account? :D
stpeter
Tobias: perhaps :)
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stpeter
hi Steven
Steven Parkes
late but ...
Alex
4) Announcement of Voting Results
Alex
when you relead the page at:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-03-16/
you can see the results
Alex
all new and returning members were accepted
stpeter
ok!
Alex
5) Any Other Business?
stpeter
I still need to propose a change to the bylaws about membership application periods
stpeter
i.e., the clause about "Applications from prospective new members shall be accepted during the first 10 days of each quarter (i.e., in January, April, July, and October)"
Alex
yes, and we have to finanlize the changed Dave proposed before the next board and council vote
stpeter
I don't remember that change
Alex
don't remeber exactly either, have to check in the archieves again
stpeter
ok
stpeter
so we need to get those proposals onto the agenda for the next meeting
stpeter
that way, they will apply in September
Kev
Did Dave get as far as proposing?
Kev
I don't remember if he proposed, or proposed to propose.
stpetersends an email about it *right now*
Alex
its in this thread:
http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2010-September/005961.html
Alex
6) Formal Adjournment
stpeter
hmm, there are some formatting glitches at http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xsf-bylaws/ -- Will and I shall add that to our list of pages to fix
Alex
I motion that we adjourn
stpeter
seconded
Alexbangs the gavel
Alex
thanks guys
stpeter
thank you, Alex!
Alex
had discussions with dave about a new memberbot, based on sleek, lua or swiften
Alex
we thought the members could decide on a framework and tsrat hacking on it
looks good, now I'll return to my review of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-arch-12 -- oh joy! ;-)
Alex
need some food and have to watch the news, back later
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Kev
Thanks Alex.
Neustradamus
it is planned to update history ? http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/history/
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stpeter
Neustradamus: yes, that's another page to be updated :)
Neustradamus
:)
stpeter
Neustradamus: do you have editing privileges in WordPress?
Neustradamus
Can you add a link to the mediawiki(http://wiki.xmpp.org/) ? example in the top menu ?
Neustradamus
I think yes
stpeter
Neustradamus: where do you think the link to the wiki belongs? under "Resources"?
stpeter
oh joy, I found a bug in Firefox that is causing my browser to freeze
Neustradamus
the best solution will be "alone" : Wiki
Kev
I don't think it deserves a top-level link. Below resources seems reasonable.
stpeter
agreed
stpeter
I suppose I'll need to report this bug, because I can reproduce it...
Neustradamus
yes, I accept in resources
Neustradamus
it is possible to redirect http://xmpp.net/ to http://xmpp.org/resources/certificates/ ?
stpeter
I thought I had done that already
Neustradamus
strange, I see always the "old page".
stpeter
hmm
stpeter
fixing
Neustradamus
ok :)
stpeter
try now
stpeter
hmph
Neustradamus
same :(
stpeter
yeah
stpeter
ok, I'll add it to my list of things to check when I have time
Neustradamus
ok !
Neustradamus
it is on your todo list too : http://xmpp.org/services/ ?
stpeter
Neustradamus: I'll update the history page when the new RFCs are published
Neustradamus
ok :)
stpeter
yes we need to fix the services page -- I know for a fact that the .xml file is used by clients (e.g., Miranda), and for now we might need to made the edits in the xml file and in WordPress (two edits instead of one, but at least we'll update the data!!!)
stpeter
brb
Neustradamus
ok
dwd
Only three votes against me? I'm obviously failing to be suffieicntly contraversial.
Kev
I think I usually manage significantly more than that.
dwd
Nobody made me a wikipedia page, though. :-(
stpeter
I wonder if http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-ghostbusters-00 will run afoul of trademark laws
stpeter
dwd: you don't have a wikipedia page? shocking!
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Neustradamus
dwd :D
dwd
stpeter, I know, I just don't understand it.
dwd
stpeter, And as for sidr-ghostbusters, I suspect different fields of endevour.
stpeter
dwd: there is no justice in the world!
dwd
stpeter, There is no justice, there's just us.™
dwd
Apparently Malcolm X. Always wondered that.
stpeter
Is that Malcolm X™ ?
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bear
oh poo - completely missed the meeting (hardware failure and #FAIL on me for not having a backup)