XSF Discussion - 2011-04-20

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  17. Vanaryon

    stpeter, I mailed you the XML file for the microblogging XEP (I updated everything needed in the XEP headers), hope it is okay ;)

  18. stpeter

    hi Vanaryon, yes I saw that

  19. Vanaryon


  20. Vanaryon

    We are discussing - in our project - about a strong need for microblogging: a @user feature (mainly for notifications, and notices tracking), we might be submitting some other XEP-0277 updates in the future ;)

  21. stpeter

    ok good

  22. stpeter


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  35. will.sheward

    Board meeting?

  36. stpeter

    I thought so :)

  37. Kev

    So says my calendar.

  38. stpeter

    mine too

  39. will.sheward

    It's not in the calendar but I think we said we'd have one today

  40. Kev

    I see it in the calendar.

  41. stpeter

    as do I

  42. stpeter


  43. stpeter pings bear

  44. will.sheward

    So, I can't read a calendar, no surprise :-)

  45. Kev

    Bear was there a few minutes ago when I pinged him about GSoC things.

  46. stpeter


  47. stpeter

    maybe he stepped away

  48. bear

    sorry - traffic - back-hoe operator decided to drive his rig into the hole he was filling instead of putting dirt into it

  49. stpeter


  50. bear

    the only item I know of is gsoc followup and one other thing (/me digs thru notes)

  51. stpeter

    we also have http://tracker.xmpp.org/browse/TRADEMARKS-1 and http://tracker.xmpp.org/browse/TRADEMARKS-2

  52. bear

    that's it

  53. will.sheward

    I should mention that my trying to do the sponsors stuff on the site caused Athena to explode.

  54. stpeter consults http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2011-April/006262.html

  55. will.sheward

    I'll try again tomorrow

  56. bear

    so the trademark and gsoc are what I can see as needing discussion

  57. stpeter

    we'll plan for that :P

  58. stpeter

    I have only 2 trademark applications right now

  59. stpeter

    I was expecting a third but it hasn't come in yet

  60. bear

    starts editing http://typewith.me/SVrlCVhbyQ

  61. stpeter

    I invited Jack

  62. Neustradamus

    will.sheward: have you think at me ? :D

  63. stpeter

    I don't see NĂ¿co online

  64. stpeter

    Florian appears to be here but no activity from him in the room :)

  65. Florian

    hiya :)

  66. bear


  67. will.sheward

    Insert obvious student joke here

  68. stpeter


  69. stpeter reads http://typewith.me/SVrlCVhbyQ instead of this room

  70. bear

    i'm typing ahead in the document while waiting :)

  71. stpeter

    heh, yes

  72. Florian


  73. Florian


  74. bear

    shall we start?

  75. stpeter


  76. stpeter

    I pinged Jack

  77. bear

    ok, gsoc update

  78. bear

    - we have 7 slots but only good activity on 4 of them - the other 3 we have a deadline of tonight for mentor/student response or we will toss them back to the pool - duplication process starts today and ends in IRC discussion Friday

  79. bear

    kev may have more info but that's it in a nutshell

  80. will.sheward

    That seems clear enough

  81. Kev


  82. bear

    so far we have no duplicates - so friday will be easy(ish)

  83. Florian


  84. bear

    k, trademarks

  85. Kev

    (There are, I think, more than 4 good proposals, but several are for Swift, and we only have mentoring capacity for two)

  86. stpeter

    ah, now I remember the third trademark licensing application -- I'll add that one soon

  87. will.sheward

    Only 2 in total or 2 suitable as swift mentors?

  88. Kev

    will.sheward: Remko and I can each mentor one student. So even if the XSF has several good Swift proposals (and it has), we have to only accept two.

  89. Kev

    Other projects seem to have fewer good proposals than mentoring capacity.

  90. will.sheward


  91. bear adds the note that website update was scuttled because of hardware issues

  92. will.sheward

    That's my excuse, yes

  93. bear

    consider myself the bad habit enabler ;)

  94. Kev

    I have AOB about that, btw.

  95. bear

    do you want to bring that up now?

  96. bear

    k, anything else about gsoc?

  97. Kev

    Can do - just that athena is, to quote Edwin, 'a ticking timebomb'. Iteam is coming up with a rough plan to start mirroring the website so Bad Things can't happen again, probably to the machine Florian is currently donating over in Flosoft. We are also likely to ask Board to find some money, or some sponsor to replace the hardware (athena) in the bunker.

  98. bear


  99. Florian


  100. Kev

    Just as a heads-up.

  101. Kev

    This way we'd have one machine in the usual place, and one machine over in Europe for hosting the website.

  102. will.sheward

    Ticking is ok, it's when it stops we have a problem

  103. bear nods

  104. Kev

    will.sheward: Like Friday, you mean?

  105. stpeter

    having things in different places seems sensible

  106. Florian


  107. Kev

    stpeter: Picasso agrees :)

  108. bear

    do we know what the load is for current athena so we can get a suitable device at flosoft?

  109. stpeter

    it's not clear to me if we need a dedicated machine for websites or whether that could be hosted virtually

  110. Kev

    Or would agree, rather.

  111. Kev

    bear: The point being we don't want to replace athena with a machine at Flosoft. We want new hardware.

  112. Kev

    Then we'd mirror to the box we already have at Flosoft :)

  113. bear

    I was just talking about what parameters would be required for cpu and disk

  114. Kev

    Athena is ooooold, I imagine any modern system would cope with the base website.

  115. bear

    i.e. is it a monster box that has tons of page hits or can we do with a virtual machine?

  116. Kev

    The addons like the Atlassian stuff is another matter.

  117. Florian

    looking at the machine .. any Core CPU ... with redundant HDDs

  118. bear

    k, then we could have a master with replicated mysql on the public facing frontend

  119. bear

    but it sounds like iteam has that in hand

  120. Kev

    Not really - we're just starting discussing stuff. It was a heads-up largely so no-one gets surprised if we ask for a new server in a while.

  121. bear


  122. Kev

    (Or in case we ask in a while and someone says "Oh, I was chatting to HP the other day, if only I knew!")

  123. will.sheward

    If we find a machine somewhere, we will let you know

  124. bear

    can we get iteam to give a report by next board meeting (or a future one)

  125. stpeter

    ok I posted the trademark applications to the Board list

  126. stpeter

    I'll see what I can do about sourcing a machine

  127. stpeter

    I do have some contacts at HP

  128. bear


  129. stpeter

    and someone at Dell just asked for a password reset at jabber.org :)

  130. Kev


  131. will.sheward

    There will no be short break from me while I fail to find a seat on my train

  132. bear

    that's one heck of a processing fee ;)

  133. stpeter

    bear: :)

  134. Florian


  135. stpeter

    BTW I did IM with Jack and he is on a phone call that he can't pull away from

  136. bear

    I'll email iteam asking if they could summarize what the issue is and what the plan will be

  137. stpeter

    bear: good

  138. Kev

    bear: Right, we'll get that done eventually :)

  139. bear

    understood :)

  140. stpeter

    http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/jabber-trademark/pending-applications/ updated too

  141. bear


  142. bear

    ok, at 30 minutes past - anything else need chewing on?

  143. Florian

    not from my end

  144. will.sheward

    Not here

  145. stpeter

    next meeting>

  146. stpeter


  147. Florian

    2 weeks from now?

  148. Florian

    Trademark stuff on the list?

  149. bear

    if we follow the original original schedule - it's next week - but i'm good for 2 weeks

  150. bear

    gsoc, trademark and athena followup?

  151. stpeter

    next week I can join from the airport, two weeks from now I'll be on a plane

  152. Florian


  153. will.sheward

    That's a heck of a boarding queue

  154. stpeter

    s/can/might be able to/ :)

  155. bear

    let's do a quick one next week

  156. will.sheward


  157. stpeter

    will.sheward: :P

  158. Florian

    ok :)

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  160. bear


  161. Kev


  162. stpeter updates the calendar

  163. bear

    any objections to next week?

  164. will.sheward

    None her

  165. will.sheward


  166. Kev

    I have no objections. I'm not on Board, though :)

  167. bear


  168. will.sheward


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  170. bear

    thanks all for good meeting!

  171. will.sheward

    See you all next week

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  173. Florian

    great .. cyall later :)

  174. stpeter


  175. stpeter

    calendars updated for Board and Council

  176. stpeter


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  178. Kev

    stpeter: Thanks.

  179. stpeter

    no, thank you :)

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  182. stpeter

    going AFK for a bit to finish reviewing the vCard4 specs

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  186. bear

    kev - can we contact waqas to hash this out before our deadline?

  187. Kev


  188. Kev

    I am doing so at the moment, in fact.

  189. bear

    I don't see him in jdev

  190. bear

    oh - perfect - then let me get out of your way

  191. bear


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  199. Neustradamus

    http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/internet-drafts/ and http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/Core are not updated.

  200. Neustradamus

    http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Technology_overview too

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