XSF Discussion - 2011-04-20


  1. Vanaryon

    stpeter, I mailed you the XML file for the microblogging XEP (I updated everything needed in the XEP headers), hope it is okay ;)

  2. stpeter

    hi Vanaryon, yes I saw that

  3. Vanaryon

    okay

  4. Vanaryon

    We are discussing - in our project - about a strong need for microblogging: a @user feature (mainly for notifications, and notices tracking), we might be submitting some other XEP-0277 updates in the future ;)

  5. stpeter

    ok good

  6. stpeter

    brb

  7. will.sheward

    Board meeting?

  8. stpeter

    I thought so :)

  9. Kev

    So says my calendar.

  10. stpeter

    mine too

  11. will.sheward

    It's not in the calendar but I think we said we'd have one today

  12. Kev

    I see it in the calendar.

  13. stpeter

    as do I

  14. stpeter

    anyway

  15. stpeter pings bear

  16. will.sheward

    So, I can't read a calendar, no surprise :-)

  17. Kev

    Bear was there a few minutes ago when I pinged him about GSoC things.

  18. stpeter

    heh

  19. stpeter

    maybe he stepped away

  20. bear

    sorry - traffic - back-hoe operator decided to drive his rig into the hole he was filling instead of putting dirt into it

  21. stpeter

    heh

  22. bear

    the only item I know of is gsoc followup and one other thing (/me digs thru notes)

  23. stpeter

    we also have http://tracker.xmpp.org/browse/TRADEMARKS-1 and http://tracker.xmpp.org/browse/TRADEMARKS-2

  24. bear

    that's it

  25. will.sheward

    I should mention that my trying to do the sponsors stuff on the site caused Athena to explode.

  26. stpeter consults http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2011-April/006262.html

  27. will.sheward

    I'll try again tomorrow

  28. bear

    so the trademark and gsoc are what I can see as needing discussion

  29. stpeter

    we'll plan for that :P

  30. stpeter

    I have only 2 trademark applications right now

  31. stpeter

    I was expecting a third but it hasn't come in yet

  32. bear

    starts editing http://typewith.me/SVrlCVhbyQ

  33. stpeter

    I invited Jack

  34. Neustradamus

    will.sheward: have you think at me ? :D

  35. stpeter

    I don't see NĂ¿co online

  36. stpeter

    Florian appears to be here but no activity from him in the room :)

  37. Florian

    hiya :)

  38. bear

    :)

  39. will.sheward

    Insert obvious student joke here

  40. stpeter

    heehee

  41. stpeter reads http://typewith.me/SVrlCVhbyQ instead of this room

  42. bear

    i'm typing ahead in the document while waiting :)

  43. stpeter

    heh, yes

  44. Florian

    heeh

  45. Florian

    *hehe

  46. bear

    shall we start?

  47. stpeter

    sure

  48. stpeter

    I pinged Jack

  49. bear

    ok, gsoc update

  50. bear

    - we have 7 slots but only good activity on 4 of them - the other 3 we have a deadline of tonight for mentor/student response or we will toss them back to the pool - duplication process starts today and ends in IRC discussion Friday

  51. bear

    kev may have more info but that's it in a nutshell

  52. will.sheward

    That seems clear enough

  53. Kev

    WFM.

  54. bear

    so far we have no duplicates - so friday will be easy(ish)

  55. Florian

    right

  56. bear

    k, trademarks

  57. Kev

    (There are, I think, more than 4 good proposals, but several are for Swift, and we only have mentoring capacity for two)

  58. stpeter

    ah, now I remember the third trademark licensing application -- I'll add that one soon

  59. will.sheward

    Only 2 in total or 2 suitable as swift mentors?

  60. Kev

    will.sheward: Remko and I can each mentor one student. So even if the XSF has several good Swift proposals (and it has), we have to only accept two.

  61. Kev

    Other projects seem to have fewer good proposals than mentoring capacity.

  62. will.sheward

    Ok

  63. bear adds the note that website update was scuttled because of hardware issues

  64. will.sheward

    That's my excuse, yes

  65. bear

    consider myself the bad habit enabler ;)

  66. Kev

    I have AOB about that, btw.

  67. bear

    do you want to bring that up now?

  68. bear

    k, anything else about gsoc?

  69. Kev

    Can do - just that athena is, to quote Edwin, 'a ticking timebomb'. Iteam is coming up with a rough plan to start mirroring the website so Bad Things can't happen again, probably to the machine Florian is currently donating over in Flosoft. We are also likely to ask Board to find some money, or some sponsor to replace the hardware (athena) in the bunker.

  70. bear

    hahaha

  71. Florian

    right

  72. Kev

    Just as a heads-up.

  73. Kev

    This way we'd have one machine in the usual place, and one machine over in Europe for hosting the website.

  74. will.sheward

    Ticking is ok, it's when it stops we have a problem

  75. bear nods

  76. Kev

    will.sheward: Like Friday, you mean?

  77. stpeter

    having things in different places seems sensible

  78. Florian

    right

  79. Kev

    stpeter: Picasso agrees :)

  80. bear

    do we know what the load is for current athena so we can get a suitable device at flosoft?

  81. stpeter

    it's not clear to me if we need a dedicated machine for websites or whether that could be hosted virtually

  82. Kev

    Or would agree, rather.

  83. Kev

    bear: The point being we don't want to replace athena with a machine at Flosoft. We want new hardware.

  84. Kev

    Then we'd mirror to the box we already have at Flosoft :)

  85. bear

    I was just talking about what parameters would be required for cpu and disk

  86. Kev

    Athena is ooooold, I imagine any modern system would cope with the base website.

  87. bear

    i.e. is it a monster box that has tons of page hits or can we do with a virtual machine?

  88. Kev

    The addons like the Atlassian stuff is another matter.

  89. Florian

    looking at the machine .. any Core CPU ... with redundant HDDs

  90. bear

    k, then we could have a master with replicated mysql on the public facing frontend

  91. bear

    but it sounds like iteam has that in hand

  92. Kev

    Not really - we're just starting discussing stuff. It was a heads-up largely so no-one gets surprised if we ask for a new server in a while.

  93. bear

    k

  94. Kev

    (Or in case we ask in a while and someone says "Oh, I was chatting to HP the other day, if only I knew!")

  95. will.sheward

    If we find a machine somewhere, we will let you know

  96. bear

    can we get iteam to give a report by next board meeting (or a future one)

  97. stpeter

    ok I posted the trademark applications to the Board list

  98. stpeter

    I'll see what I can do about sourcing a machine

  99. stpeter

    I do have some contacts at HP

  100. bear

    cool

  101. stpeter

    and someone at Dell just asked for a password reset at jabber.org :)

  102. Kev

    Haha.

  103. will.sheward

    There will no be short break from me while I fail to find a seat on my train

  104. bear

    that's one heck of a processing fee ;)

  105. stpeter

    bear: :)

  106. Florian

    lol

  107. stpeter

    BTW I did IM with Jack and he is on a phone call that he can't pull away from

  108. bear

    I'll email iteam asking if they could summarize what the issue is and what the plan will be

  109. stpeter

    bear: good

  110. Kev

    bear: Right, we'll get that done eventually :)

  111. bear

    understood :)

  112. stpeter

    http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/jabber-trademark/pending-applications/ updated too

  113. bear

    thanks

  114. bear

    ok, at 30 minutes past - anything else need chewing on?

  115. Florian

    not from my end

  116. will.sheward

    Not here

  117. stpeter

    next meeting>

  118. stpeter

    ?

  119. Florian

    2 weeks from now?

  120. Florian

    Trademark stuff on the list?

  121. bear

    if we follow the original original schedule - it's next week - but i'm good for 2 weeks

  122. bear

    gsoc, trademark and athena followup?

  123. stpeter

    next week I can join from the airport, two weeks from now I'll be on a plane

  124. Florian

    ah

  125. will.sheward

    That's a heck of a boarding queue

  126. stpeter

    s/can/might be able to/ :)

  127. bear

    let's do a quick one next week

  128. will.sheward

    Ok

  129. stpeter

    will.sheward: :P

  130. Florian

    ok :)

  131. bear raises gavel

  132. bear

    kev?

  133. Kev

    Yes?

  134. stpeter updates the calendar

  135. bear

    any objections to next week?

  136. will.sheward

    None her

  137. will.sheward

    Here

  138. Kev

    I have no objections. I'm not on Board, though :)

  139. bear

    doh!

  140. will.sheward

    Lol

  141. bear bangs gavel

  142. bear

    thanks all for good meeting!

  143. will.sheward

    See you all next week

  144. Florian

    great .. cyall later :)

  145. stpeter

    thanks

  146. stpeter

    calendars updated for Board and Council

  147. stpeter

    brb

  148. Kev

    stpeter: Thanks.

  149. stpeter

    no, thank you :)

  150. stpeter

    ok

  151. stpeter

    going AFK for a bit to finish reviewing the vCard4 specs

  152. bear

    kev - can we contact waqas to hash this out before our deadline?

  153. Kev

    Yep.

  154. Kev

    I am doing so at the moment, in fact.

  155. bear

    I don't see him in jdev

  156. bear

    oh - perfect - then let me get out of your way

  157. bear

    ta

  158. Neustradamus

    http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/internet-drafts/ and http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/Core are not updated.

  159. Neustradamus

    http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Technology_overview too