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Florian
so ... 1hr13mins until the board meeting, right?
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stpeter
yes
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bear
http://typewith.me/GgkwnF2D5f
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bear
5 minutes to board meeting
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Florian
we're here :)
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Florian
well, I'm here :)
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bear
:)
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stpeter
me too!
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Florian
pinged Will
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
Jack is online
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Florian
yup, just pinged him too :)
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stpeter
and Nÿco?
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Florian
can't see him online?
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bear
stpeter - what kind of feedback are you looking for in regards to the trademark items? yea/nea votes, long rambling treatises or other verbage, hostility?
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stpeter
bear: just +1/-1
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stpeter
naturally, if folks have concerns then express
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stpeter
express them
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bear
ah, sorry if that was a repeat question
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Florian
ok :)
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stpeter
such concerns might lead to treatises
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stpeter
but I doubt it
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jack
+1 on both from me.
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Florian
+1 from me too :)
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bear
+1 for me
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bear
i'll summarize in the bug thenafter the meeting
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stpeter
I'm working to clean up the trademark stuff
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Florian
so ... should we start the meeting officially?
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bear
I don't see Will or Nyco online - should we start?
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stpeter
in the minutes we can ask for feedback from Will and Nÿco in the next few days
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Florian
Don't seem to get a response from Will or Nyco
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stpeter
(about the ™ stuff)
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bear
ok, let's start and they can respond via email
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stpeter
nod
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Florian
+1 :)
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bear
any agenda bashing?
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stpeter
I thought you had started :)
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bear
oops
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stpeter
n/p
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stpeter
my confusion
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bear
just me being chatty
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bear
k, trademarks
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bear
looks like we need to get others to +1/-1 in email and we will ask via minutes email for them
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bear
anything else on trademarks?
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Florian
not here
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bear
ok
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Florian
so, the FOSDEM Dev Challenge Winner ...
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Florian
added the info there ...
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bear
thanks for updating the notes on the winner
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Florian
the App should appear in the app store soon
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bear
can you do a blog post about it or forward me info and I'll draft one
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Florian
will do
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bear
any questions about this item?
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Florian
not from me:)
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bear
k
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Florian
next, GSoC Update?
- bear pastes
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bear
GSoC: we have 5 students and things are pre-crazy calm while everyone finishes school and preps for start more activity will happen by end of week when I start emailing and talking about schedules after conferring with Kevin about them
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bear
basically it's the calm before the storm
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Florian
ok :)
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bear
once kev and I have a plan on communication and "check points" then we will get busy :)
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bear
k, xmpp summit NA
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Florian
yeah, sorry, just added that now :)
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Florian
so, it's looking grim ...
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Florian
or did I miss something?
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stpeter
BTW, some OAuth folks also noted the unfortunate overlap between OSCON and IETF 81
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Florian
so, I personally think it's a pity that there is no summit going on ... but then I wouldn't be able to attend anyway :p
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Florian
so, my idea was ... local meetups
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Florian
there's one it seems in SFO
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bear
one was yesterday
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Florian
right
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stpeter
I do think local meetups are a good idea
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stpeter
which one happened yesterday?
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Florian
how about doing a global local meetup :)
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stpeter
bear and I had a meetup about 10 days ago :)
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bear
:)
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Florian
Global Local Meetups: Smaller meetups of XMPP peeps in different places, on a day, and then using modern real-time technology, do something together
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Florian
or at least overlap some stuff
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bear
there was a pre-google io meeting at CitizenSpace
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bear
put together by a bunch of folks
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Florian
we could also use that to promote Jingle a bit :)
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Florian
and possibly even MuJi
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stpeter
open discussion day would be a good time for a meetup
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Florian
when's that?
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stpeter
May 19
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stpeter
http://xmpp.org/2011/05/open-discussion-day-19-may-2011/
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Florian
ouch ... bit short notice :/
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stpeter
nod
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bear
i'm being pulled into a work meeting
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stpeter
ok
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Florian
ok
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bear
i'll post the meeting minutes after I'm done if someone can update the typewithme notes
- bear goes stealth
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Florian
well, if you guys don't mind, I'll post some ideas about this to the ML
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stpeter
a broader issue is whether we need to hold two summits each year
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stpeter
the FOSDEM one is always successfuly
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stpeter
s/y//
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Florian
yeah, I think so too
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Florian
but I know there's some interest in a UK one ...
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stpeter
but the North American one not so much
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Florian
so maybe doing "local" meetups and linking everyone together would be cool
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Florian
a bit like the Interop event
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stpeter
right
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Florian
just more in shorter time
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Florian
a MUC room, meetups around the world
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Florian
and possibly Jingle Calls to different locations
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Florian
and this could include talks, etc.
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Florian
also easier to archive then, i.e. they're filmed
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stpeter
true
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Florian
but yeah, sometime in June or July?
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stpeter
although the a/v stuff isn't easy
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Florian
it's not, hence the 19th of May is difficult :)
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Florian
but there's this one company that does online meetings
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stpeter
yeah
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Florian
:)
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stpeter
:P
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Florian
and a single camera is quite easy
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stpeter
see also http://www.meetecho.com/
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stpeter
they use XMPP for their text chat
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Florian
interesting
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stpeter
I met some of those guys in Prague at the last IETF meeting
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Florian
I personally would love to use Jingle :)
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stpeter
nod
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stpeter
for sure
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Florian
did some calls with Thiago over the relay ... super fast
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Florian
i.e. latency faster than a phone call
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Florian
it was immense
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stpeter
what client did you use?
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Florian
Jitsi / SIP Comm
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stpeter
nod
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stpeter
that seems to be the most advanced Jingle client
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Florian
so that's an option
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Florian
yeah
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stpeter
I need to ping Thiago about an updated XEP for Jingle Nodes
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Florian
:)
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jack
i'm also beign pulled away now. i'll followup in email if there is anything mroe in the miinutes.
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stpeter
there is also http://www.aim.com/google-chat-changes
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stpeter
http://typewith.me/GgkwnF2D5f seems OK but we can let bear send out the minutes
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Florian
aaah!
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Florian
so yeah, should I drop an E-mail about it to the board list, to figure out if and how we do that instead?
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stpeter
or members@xmpp.org
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stpeter
wider discussion
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Florian
yup, fine by me
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Florian
and should we say that the XMPP Summit NA is off the table then?
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stpeter
see: $ dig +short -t SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.aol.com 0 1 5269 xmpp.gxmpp.oscar.aol.com.
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stpeter
yes
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stpeter
I think so
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Florian
ok
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stpeter
phone call, brb
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Florian
k :)
- bear looks at minutes and preps email
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bear
florian - would love to work up some blog posts on the messy details of getting jingle working for us normal client folk
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stpeter
bear: I like that idea!
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bear
yea, I was talking with a friend and we were wondering how to do it
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bear
I want to start putting some good ol' public shaming pressure on client and server devs
- bear hopes he spelled shame'ing properly
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stpeter
yep
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stpeter
yep to spelling, yep to shaming :)
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bear
hehe
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bear
if google can do voice and video calls on a tablet, then xmpp open source world should be able to do it!