XSF Discussion - 2011-05-11

so ... 1hr13mins until the board meeting, right?

yes

http://typewith.me/GgkwnF2D5f

5 minutes to board meeting

we're here :)

well, I'm here :)

:)

me too!

pinged Will

ok

Jack is online

yup, just pinged him too :)

and Nÿco?

can't see him online?

stpeter - what kind of feedback are you looking for in regards to the trademark items? yea/nea votes, long rambling treatises or other verbage, hostility?

bear: just +1/-1

naturally, if folks have concerns then express

express them

ah, sorry if that was a repeat question

ok :)

such concerns might lead to treatises

but I doubt it

+1 on both from me.

+1 from me too :)

+1 for me

i'll summarize in the bug thenafter the meeting

I'm working to clean up the trademark stuff

so ... should we start the meeting officially?

I don't see Will or Nyco online - should we start?

in the minutes we can ask for feedback from Will and Nÿco in the next few days

Don't seem to get a response from Will or Nyco

(about the ™ stuff)

ok, let's start and they can respond via email

nod

+1 :)

any agenda bashing?

I thought you had started :)

oops

n/p

my confusion

just me being chatty

k, trademarks

looks like we need to get others to +1/-1 in email and we will ask via minutes email for them

anything else on trademarks?

not here

ok

so, the FOSDEM Dev Challenge Winner ...

added the info there ...

thanks for updating the notes on the winner

the App should appear in the app store soon

can you do a blog post about it or forward me info and I'll draft one

will do

any questions about this item?

not from me:)

k

next, GSoC Update?

GSoC: we have 5 students and things are pre-crazy calm while everyone finishes school and preps for start more activity will happen by end of week when I start emailing and talking about schedules after conferring with Kevin about them

basically it's the calm before the storm

ok :)

once kev and I have a plan on communication and "check points" then we will get busy :)

k, xmpp summit NA

yeah, sorry, just added that now :)

so, it's looking grim ...

or did I miss something?

BTW, some OAuth folks also noted the unfortunate overlap between OSCON and IETF 81

so, I personally think it's a pity that there is no summit going on ... but then I wouldn't be able to attend anyway :p

so, my idea was ... local meetups

there's one it seems in SFO

one was yesterday

right

I do think local meetups are a good idea

which one happened yesterday?

how about doing a global local meetup :)

bear and I had a meetup about 10 days ago :)

:)

Global Local Meetups: Smaller meetups of XMPP peeps in different places, on a day, and then using modern real-time technology, do something together

or at least overlap some stuff

there was a pre-google io meeting at CitizenSpace

put together by a bunch of folks

we could also use that to promote Jingle a bit :)

and possibly even MuJi

open discussion day would be a good time for a meetup

when's that?

May 19

http://xmpp.org/2011/05/open-discussion-day-19-may-2011/

ouch ... bit short notice :/

nod

i'm being pulled into a work meeting

ok

ok

i'll post the meeting minutes after I'm done if someone can update the typewithme notes

well, if you guys don't mind, I'll post some ideas about this to the ML

a broader issue is whether we need to hold two summits each year

the FOSDEM one is always successfuly

s/y//

yeah, I think so too

but I know there's some interest in a UK one ...

but the North American one not so much

so maybe doing "local" meetups and linking everyone together would be cool

a bit like the Interop event

right

just more in shorter time

a MUC room, meetups around the world

and possibly Jingle Calls to different locations

and this could include talks, etc.

also easier to archive then, i.e. they're filmed

true

but yeah, sometime in June or July?

although the a/v stuff isn't easy

it's not, hence the 19th of May is difficult :)

but there's this one company that does online meetings

yeah

:)

:P

and a single camera is quite easy

see also http://www.meetecho.com/

they use XMPP for their text chat

interesting

I met some of those guys in Prague at the last IETF meeting

I personally would love to use Jingle :)

nod

for sure

did some calls with Thiago over the relay ... super fast

i.e. latency faster than a phone call

it was immense

what client did you use?

Jitsi / SIP Comm

nod

that seems to be the most advanced Jingle client

so that's an option

yeah

I need to ping Thiago about an updated XEP for Jingle Nodes

:)

i'm also beign pulled away now. i'll followup in email if there is anything mroe in the miinutes.

there is also http://www.aim.com/google-chat-changes

http://typewith.me/GgkwnF2D5f seems OK but we can let bear send out the minutes

aaah!

so yeah, should I drop an E-mail about it to the board list, to figure out if and how we do that instead?

or members@xmpp.org

wider discussion

yup, fine by me

and should we say that the XMPP Summit NA is off the table then?

see: $ dig +short -t SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.aol.com 0 1 5269 xmpp.gxmpp.oscar.aol.com.

yes

I think so

ok

phone call, brb

k :)

florian - would love to work up some blog posts on the messy details of getting jingle working for us normal client folk

bear: I like that idea!

yea, I was talking with a friend and we were wondering how to do it

I want to start putting some good ol' public shaming pressure on client and server devs

yep

yep to spelling, yep to shaming :)

hehe

if google can do voice and video calls on a tablet, then xmpp open source world should be able to do it!