XSF Discussion - 2011-05-25

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  27. Florian

    Meeting in 1hr5mins :)

  28. stpeter


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  34. bear

    meeting notes: http://typewith.me/Vl9ItsS33A

  35. stpeter

    thanks bear

  36. stpeter is deep in a review of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xcon-common-data-model/ but will break away as needed

  37. bear

    I don't think we have anything to discuss TBH

  38. Kev


  39. bear

    an update, sure - but since i've all but tossed you under the bus with my dayjob distraction... you would ahve to do that

  40. Kev

    Are we intending providing students with books again this year?

  41. bear

    which should be clearing up by friday

  42. bear

    i'll add that to the agenda

  43. stpeter

    it seems that we might be able to declare consensus on the trademark applications -- three in favor, none against by my reading of the last meeting

  44. bear adds that to meeting

  45. bear

    err agenda

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  47. bear

    i'm +1 for books to GSoC students

  48. bear

    I don't think any are in China this year, so shipping should be a lot easier

  49. stpeter

    did someone get reimbursed for shipping the last time?

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  53. Kev

    Bear did the ordering last year.

  54. stpeter

    on the phone, brb

  55. Kev

    I'm assuming/hoping he claimed it back.

  56. bear

    nope - wrote it of as a "donation"

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  59. bear

    going to give folks a couple of minutes before starting

  60. will.sheward

    give us time to read the extensive agenda :-)

  61. stpeter


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  63. bear


  64. bear

    shall we start?

  65. stpeter

    sure thing

  66. Florian


  67. stpeter finds http://xmpp.org:5290/muc_log/muc.xmpp.org/xsf/110511/#17:04:21 about the trademark applications

  68. bear

    yea, I updated the bugs to show the +1's

  69. will.sheward

    my feedback : +1

  70. bear

    sounds like we can declare consensus for those two applications

  71. stpeter

    will.sheward: ok

  72. stpeter


  73. stpeter

    I'll process them as "usual" (haven't processed any in a while)

  74. bear

    Kev was going to ask if it's ok to send books to the GSoC Students like we did last year

  75. bear

    we send 3 books (IIRC) to each student - would be the same list this year

  76. stpeter wonders what Tobias has done with all of his extra books

  77. will.sheward

    which books?

  78. Tobias


  79. bear

    I"m digging up that list now

  80. Tobias

    i'm also +1 on books :D

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  83. jack

    board meeting time?

  84. stpeter

    I think it's a good thing to do (sending the books)

  85. stpeter

    jack: yep

  86. Florian

    I agree

  87. Kev

    The list was TDG, PP and GTD.

  88. Florian


  89. Tobias

    not again

  90. Tobias


  91. will.sheward

    GTD :-)

  92. Kev

    Tobias: Maybe you wouldn't need another set.

  93. bear

    which one is PP

  94. jack

    what's PP?

  95. will.sheward

    hence the question, if theyve already got the titles, shouldn't we send something else?

  96. Tobias

    Kev: it it's that exact set....

  97. bear

    tobias is, I think, the only one who would be getting doubles

  98. jack

    I really like hte Pomodoro book from pragprog as an altnerative to GTD

  99. Kev

    PP = Pragmatic Programmer.

  100. will.sheward

    i cant believe there isn't a single person in the woorld who hasn't already got a (signed) copy of TDG

  101. jack

    as an alternative to PP there is also the passionate programmer or whatever

  102. jack

    or Code Complete

  103. jack

    or Coders at Work

  104. Tobias

    will.sheward: +1 on different books :)

  105. jack

    Coders at Work is a fun one for sure

  106. Kev

    I haven't read any of the ones Jack's named. I picked the above set because they're favourites of mine. If other books have equivalent content and a champion I'm happy.

  107. bear

    can everyone send to the mailing list their short list of books and i'll collate and pick the top 3?

  108. Kev


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  110. Tobias


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  112. jack

    Mythical Man Month is also a classic and a nice read

  113. Kev

    I do have that one.

  114. Kev

    I'm not sure which of the three categories it really fits into, though.

  115. jack

    it's the theoretical version of GTD :)

  116. Tobias

    theoretical...i hear...*boooring* ;)

  117. Florian


  118. bear

    anything else for gsoc book discussion?

  119. bear

    do we have any other agenda items?

  120. Kev

    As long as it ends up being a book on XMPP, a book on being a sensible dev, and a book on doing sensible things with time, I'm ok with whatever choices people come up with (as long as they've read them!).

  121. jack

    i'll shamelessly suggest my book as an alternative to TDG if there is someone who already has TDG :)

  122. bear


  123. Tobias

    how about beautiful testing?

  124. Kev

    Honestly, if there was someone doing web stuff I was going to suggest yours instead of TDG Jack.

  125. Kev

    I did go to buy a copy for myself until I saw they wanted something like $40 for a DRMd ebook :)

  126. bear

    unless someone has another item to cover, we are pretty much done for this meeting

  127. will.sheward

    nothing here

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  130. bear

    thanks all - next meeting in two weeks - same time

  131. stpeter


  132. stpeter goes back to the joy that is http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xcon-common-data-model-27

  133. bear

    you have all the *fun*

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  137. Kev

    Tobias: I'd be inclined to speak to Remko about Beautiful Testing before requesting it, BTW, in case he has thoughts on the matter.

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