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Florian
Meeting in 1hr5mins :)
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stpeter
yes
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bear
meeting notes: http://typewith.me/Vl9ItsS33A
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stpeter
thanks bear
- stpeter is deep in a review of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xcon-common-data-model/ but will break away as needed
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bear
I don't think we have anything to discuss TBH
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Kev
GSoC?
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bear
an update, sure - but since i've all but tossed you under the bus with my dayjob distraction... you would ahve to do that
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Kev
Are we intending providing students with books again this year?
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bear
which should be clearing up by friday
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bear
i'll add that to the agenda
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stpeter
it seems that we might be able to declare consensus on the trademark applications -- three in favor, none against by my reading of the last meeting
- bear adds that to meeting
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bear
err agenda
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bear
i'm +1 for books to GSoC students
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bear
I don't think any are in China this year, so shipping should be a lot easier
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stpeter
did someone get reimbursed for shipping the last time?
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Kev
Bear did the ordering last year.
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stpeter
on the phone, brb
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Kev
I'm assuming/hoping he claimed it back.
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bear
nope - wrote it of as a "donation"
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bear
going to give folks a couple of minutes before starting
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will.sheward
give us time to read the extensive agenda :-)
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stpeter
back
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Florian
back
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bear
http://typewith.me/Vl9ItsS33A
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bear
shall we start?
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stpeter
sure thing
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Florian
sure
- stpeter finds http://xmpp.org:5290/muc_log/muc.xmpp.org/xsf/110511/#17:04:21 about the trademark applications
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bear
yea, I updated the bugs to show the +1's
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will.sheward
my feedback : +1
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bear
sounds like we can declare consensus for those two applications
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stpeter
will.sheward: ok
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stpeter
yep
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stpeter
I'll process them as "usual" (haven't processed any in a while)
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bear
Kev was going to ask if it's ok to send books to the GSoC Students like we did last year
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bear
we send 3 books (IIRC) to each student - would be the same list this year
- stpeter wonders what Tobias has done with all of his extra books
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will.sheward
which books?
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Tobias
:D
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bear
I"m digging up that list now
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Tobias
i'm also +1 on books :D
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jack
board meeting time?
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stpeter
I think it's a good thing to do (sending the books)
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stpeter
jack: yep
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Florian
I agree
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Kev
The list was TDG, PP and GTD.
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Florian
lol
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Tobias
not again
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Tobias
:)
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will.sheward
GTD :-)
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Kev
Tobias: Maybe you wouldn't need another set.
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bear
which one is PP
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jack
what's PP?
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will.sheward
hence the question, if theyve already got the titles, shouldn't we send something else?
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Tobias
Kev: it it's that exact set....
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bear
tobias is, I think, the only one who would be getting doubles
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jack
I really like hte Pomodoro book from pragprog as an altnerative to GTD
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Kev
PP = Pragmatic Programmer.
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will.sheward
i cant believe there isn't a single person in the woorld who hasn't already got a (signed) copy of TDG
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jack
as an alternative to PP there is also the passionate programmer or whatever
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jack
or Code Complete
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jack
or Coders at Work
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Tobias
will.sheward: +1 on different books :)
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jack
Coders at Work is a fun one for sure
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Kev
I haven't read any of the ones Jack's named. I picked the above set because they're favourites of mine. If other books have equivalent content and a champion I'm happy.
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bear
can everyone send to the mailing list their short list of books and i'll collate and pick the top 3?
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Kev
No.
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Kev
:p
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Tobias
heh
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bear
:)
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jack
Mythical Man Month is also a classic and a nice read
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Kev
I do have that one.
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Kev
I'm not sure which of the three categories it really fits into, though.
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jack
it's the theoretical version of GTD :)
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Tobias
theoretical...i hear...*boooring* ;)
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Florian
lol
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bear
anything else for gsoc book discussion?
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bear
do we have any other agenda items?
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Kev
As long as it ends up being a book on XMPP, a book on being a sensible dev, and a book on doing sensible things with time, I'm ok with whatever choices people come up with (as long as they've read them!).
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jack
i'll shamelessly suggest my book as an alternative to TDG if there is someone who already has TDG :)
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bear
+1
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Tobias
how about beautiful testing?
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Kev
Honestly, if there was someone doing web stuff I was going to suggest yours instead of TDG Jack.
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Kev
I did go to buy a copy for myself until I saw they wanted something like $40 for a DRMd ebook :)
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bear
unless someone has another item to cover, we are pretty much done for this meeting
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will.sheward
nothing here
- bear pauses dramatically
- bear bangs the gavel
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bear
thanks all - next meeting in two weeks - same time
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stpeter
excellent
- stpeter goes back to the joy that is http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xcon-common-data-model-27
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bear
you have all the *fun*
- bear runs to get minutes to list
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Kev
Tobias: I'd be inclined to speak to Remko about Beautiful Testing before requesting it, BTW, in case he has thoughts on the matter.