XSF Discussion - 2011-07-20

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  12. bear

    typewithme for board meeting (in 15 minutes) http://typewith.me/KDwssxbanE

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    wondering if I lost network link

  15. Kev

    I'm pinged.

  16. bear

    thanks :)

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    loading for me just fine

  24. bear

    I was getting 503 for a couple of minutes

  25. bear

    I am not having a very good summer it seems

  26. stpeter

    sorry to hear it

  27. stpeter

    how did it get to be July 20 already?!?

  28. bear

    hehe - like I need to complain about being busy to you guys ;)

  29. bear

    I poked florian, jack seems to be afk

  30. stpeter

    I poked them as well

  31. stpeter

    should've done so 15 minutes ago :)

  32. bear

    is there anything to add to the agenda?

  33. bear

    or, except for the GSoC book item, will this be a planning meeting

  34. stpeter


  35. stpeter

    seems fine

  36. Kev

    List Agendas?

  37. Kev

    Had a brief discussion about that in Council.

  38. stpeter

    Kev: part of planning, perhaps

  39. stpeter


  40. bear

    what is List Agendas ?

  41. stpeter

    in the Council meeting, I mentioned that it would be nice for us to send draft agendas 24 hours before the meeting -- to members@ for Board meetings and to standards@ for Council meetings

  42. bear


  43. Kev

    I need to step out very shortly. I was hoping to lurk, but ...

  44. stpeter

    that would remind everyone that the meeting is happening (including Board and Council members :)

  45. stpeter

    Kev: 's ok

  46. bear

    should we start with the planning items? do we have a quorom?

  47. stpeter

    Kev usually sends a Council reminder to the council@ list, and anyone can subscribe to that list (but not post), so it's less necessary but still desirable (I doubt many people know they can subscribe to the council@ list)

  48. stpeter

    I don't think the Board has a quorum

  49. stpeter

    unless Florian, Jack, or NĂ¿co appears

  50. bear

    then we need to consider this a dry run for how meetings will be done going forward

  51. stpeter

    and the latter has not been at a meeting in a few months

  52. bear

    IRL is a bitch sometimes

  53. stpeter

    so, we could at least have a discussion about planning for the next meeting :)

  54. bear


  55. bear

    I like the idea of sending an agenda summary the day before - will require an extra meeting reminder for me but that's a good thing

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  57. stpeter

    ticklers are good :)

  58. bear

    do we try and get the schedule back to a fixed set now?

  59. bear

    knowing that going forward some will just be missed

  60. stpeter

    seems like a good idea

  61. Kev

    I'm strongly in favour of being able to access an agenda for both Board and Council. It doesn't bother me if it lands in my inbox or not - if the Board list was open only sending them there would be fine. It's not, so a web page somewhere would be fine too, or a wiki page, or anything. It doesn't have to be a mail to members if that's not convenient for you, I think.

  62. Kev

    Council have found it useful having switched to a weekly same time same place system.

  63. bear

    I would combine the email with a wiki page I think

  64. bear

    weekly seems ok for council as they have much more to talk about weekly

  65. bear

    seems a bit overkill for board tho (IMO)

  66. stpeter

    Council meetings can also be quite brief

  67. stpeter

    10 minutes is not unheard of :)

  68. bear

    that seems like a good thing

  69. Kev

    Indeed. Anyway, I need to vanish now. Bibi.

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  71. stpeter

    what is the books topic?

  72. bear

    I was supposed to send to the gsoc students the books

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  74. bear

    and it completely fell off of my todo list

  75. stpeter

    anything I can help with?

  76. stpeter

    ah ok

  77. bear

    so i'm scurrying about now to do that

  78. bear

    will be sending them by end of week - need to get mailing addresses

  79. stpeter

    we can ask on the gsoc@xmpp.org list, unless Google has that info

  80. bear

    that is part of what the "scurrying about" item covers :/

  81. stpeter


  82. bear

    do we want to consider a new meeting time?

  83. stpeter

    I'm flexible

  84. bear

    I'm asking because this timeslot for a wed is turning out to be *very* busy for me

  85. stpeter

    I don't think anyone is strongly attached to this time :)

  86. bear

    then i'll post to the list and start the process

  87. stpeter

    I can meet starting around 09:00 Eastern if that's better, but we should check with our European friends

  88. bear

    yea, i'm more than willing to make it european friendly just to get it out of this timeslot

  89. stpeter

    sure thing

  90. stpeter

    I'm easy :)

  91. bear

    so are we considering meeting weekly like council?

  92. stpeter

    up to you, chief :)

  93. stpeter

    it's easier to remember

  94. stpeter

    and can be brief

  95. bear

    i'm game for it - I like the fact it's always the same and will/should be very fast

  96. stpeter

    the Council sometimes decides that it doesn't have any topics to discuss

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  98. stpeter

    quick meetings are good meetings

  99. bear

    k, i'll email the list with this punch list of items that could be changing

  100. stpeter


  101. stpeter adds the next Council meeting to the calendar

  102. bear

    will put it on the agenda for the next meeting

  103. bear

    which, if we keep to our schedule is in 2 weeks

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  105. stpeter

    August 3

  106. stpeter

    I'll be at IETF81 next week

  107. bear

    yea, i'm in toronto for work meetings

  108. stpeter

    that's right

  109. bear

    meeting notes seem ok?

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  113. bear

    ok, after this dayjob meeting finishes i'll package them up and email

  114. bear


  115. stpeter

    no, thank you

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  119. Florian

    damn ... too late

  120. stpeter

    hi Florian

  121. Florian

    hey stpeter

  122. stpeter

    how are you?

  123. stpeter

    busy summer?

  124. Florian

    I'm good ... yeah .. busy ... looking for a place to live for next year

  125. stpeter

    always fun

  126. Florian

    heh, depends on your definition of fun

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