XSF Discussion - 2011-11-10

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  27. stpeter

    interesting: https://grove.io/ ... IRC with a pretty face :)

  28. dwd

    "IRC is a popular communication protocol" ... with almost no authentication whatsoever.

  29. stpeter

    dwd: maybe that's why it is so popular!

  30. dwd

    stpeter, According to come documents I've been reading, this is indeed a key factor.

  31. stpeter processes the XEP Editor actions from yesterday's Council meeting before he forgets

  32. Kev


  33. stpeter

    I'm losing track of the things I need to finish before getting on a plane to Taipei in the morning

  34. dwd

    stpeter, "packing".

  35. stpeter

    yeah, I'll do that tonight

  36. stpeter

    I'm talking about poking WG chairs, finishing some presentation slides, updating XEPs, etc.

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  39. Kev

    Thanks Peter.

  40. stpeter

    hmm, XEP-0258 is keeping the XMPP Registrar busy for a little while here, will publish that one soon enough :)

  41. Kev

    Heh. Yes, I hadn't realised that one was missing from the push.

  42. stpeter

    schemas, namespaces, etc. -- I like to make sure everything is in place before I publish the updated spec

  43. stpeter removes the pagination from http://xmpp.org/resources/schemas/ while he's at it

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  45. stpeter

    hmm but http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/protocol-namespaces/ is out of date

  46. stpeter

    something to do over lunch :)

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  48. stpeter

    OK, http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/protocol-namespaces/ updated as well ... although I don't know who uses those pages :)

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  54. bear

    meeting in 10 minutes?

  55. stpeter


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  59. stpeter wanders off to a meeting room where he will be multitasking :)

  60. bear

    as will I :/

  61. Alex

    hi @all

  62. stpeter

    hi Alex!

  63. Kev

    Hi Alex.

  64. Alex

    ok guys, lets start our meeting

  65. Alex bangs the gavel

  66. Alex

    you can see our agenda here: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-11-10/

  67. Alex

    1) Call for Quorum

  68. Alex

    as you can see 36 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum

  69. Alex

    we have 56 members

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  71. Alex

    64% turnout which is not bad ;-)

  72. stpeter


  73. stpeter

    better than American elections!

  74. Alex

    2) Items Subject to a Vote

  75. Alex

    Board and Council

  76. Alex

    you can see all applicants here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2011

  77. Alex

    3) Opportunity for XSF members to Vote in the Meeting

  78. Alex

    anybody here who has not voted yet and wants to vote in the meeting?

  79. Kev

    Not here.

  80. dwd

    Nor me.

  81. Alex

    ok, then I start working on the results

  82. dwd

    Alex, Might want to correct Kev's surname while you're there. :-)

  83. Kev

    Oh, yes. That'd be nice :)

  84. stpeter

    whatever :P

  85. Kev

    I hadn't scrolled down yet.

  86. Alex

    ok, I will

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  88. Alex

    4) Announcement of Voting Results

  89. Alex

    when you reload the page at: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-11-10/ you see the results

  90. Alex

    all 5 board applcants were accepted

  91. dwd

    Florian gets top votes - they know who gets them fed... :-)

  92. Alex

    top 5 for council are: Matthew Wild 88,89 Kevin Smith 86,11 Matthew Miller 83,33 Tobias Markmann 69,44 Ralph Meijer 63,89

  93. stpeter

    some close voting for Council :)

  94. Alex


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  96. Alex

    5) Any Other Business?

  97. stpeter

    XMPP Summit? or shall we bring that up at the first Board meeting?

  98. dwd

    If there's anything to say here. But we can call for an open meeting on that later, too.

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  100. stpeter

    I'm a bit distracted with IETF 82 prep this week

  101. stpeter

    but I'll post to the members@ list about a meeting time -- week of November 21 would work for me

  102. bear

    summit prep should be fairly streamlined - we have carryover of folks to help with the new folks

  103. Alex

    6) Formal Adjournment

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  105. Alex

    I motion that we adjourn

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  107. dwd

    Alex, Thanks.

  108. Kev

    Thanks Alex.

  109. stpeter

    Danke Schön! :)

  110. Alex

    no problem

  111. Alex

    we can start voting on membership now ;-)

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  115. stpeter

    I still would like to get rid of all the voting, but that's a bigger issue

  116. Florian

    sorry I'm late

  117. stpeter

    Florian: you are the new king!

  118. Florian

    heh, so I heard

  119. Tobias

    and get a shiny new wooden crown

  120. Florian


  121. Alex

    nearly the same council, only Fritzy replaced by Tobias

  122. stpeter

    yeah, I voted against some of those old-timers :P

  123. stpeter apologizes for being distracted at the moment

  124. stpeter

    Alex: I can update the list membership for the board@ and council@ lists

  125. Alex

    okay, I don't think that I have permissions for that. You are the chief for all teh lists ,-)

  126. stpeter

    Alex: I am, but volunteers are welcome to help with list administration :)

  127. Alex

    when you send me the passwords I can do that, they change only once a year

  128. stpeter

    I can send you the passwords for the xmpp lists (of course we also have jabber.org lists on the same machine)

  129. stpeter

    list administration doesn't take much of my time, so it's easy enough for me

  130. Florian

    ah, just found an error on the website

  131. stpeter

    Florian: impossible!

  132. Florian

    the link is wrong for the minutes

  133. Florian

    let me see if I can log in :)

  134. Alex

    ok, lemme fix

  135. Florian

    I'm logged in ... I can fix it if you want

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  137. Florian


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  140. stpeter

    ok, will post to members@ about a summit chat

  141. Florian

    sounds good :)

  142. stpeter

    is this a good time of day?

  143. stpeter

    or do we want something earlier?

  144. Florian

    for me normally not on a Thursday

  145. Florian

    any other day, yes

  146. stpeter

    it would probably be Tuesday or Wednesday -- Thursday is a holiday in America (at least for November 24)

  147. stpeter

    message sent to members@

  148. stpeter

    I might even have time to work on the validation project after I get back from Taipei :)

  149. bear

    lance and I talked while we were at krtconf - good basic talk about how to start on the testing framework

  150. stpeter

    cool :)

  151. bear

    hmm, need to email the board list to have first meeting scheduled

  152. dwd

    bear, Are we all subscribed already?

  153. stpeter

    dwd: I need to add people

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  157. dwd

    stpeter, Can you sort me out with a WordPress account, please? (Or can you, Kev, if you've access?)

  158. stpeter

    I can, please hold

  159. Kev

    I can, but not while I'm downstairs.

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  161. dwd

    stpeter, No rush, I can wait until tomorrow when Kev can do it.

  162. stpeter

    almost done

  163. bear

    hmm, 4 folks didn't vote for me - I need to do better :(

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  165. stpeter

    dwd: credentials sent via IM

  166. dwd

    bear, You did better than me - I hardly annoyed anyone, it seems.

  167. bear

    oh, in that case I consider that to be a major curmudgeon win

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