dwd3600 second warnings of impending meetingness sent...
stpeter:)
KevOooh, ooh.
KevIf I don't turn up, I can be rhombus :D
KevOr a rhombus, I guess.
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Florianmoo
stpeterhi Florian
Florianhey @ all :)
dwdKev, Depends on your reading of equilateral.
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KevEquilateral polygons are those whose sides are all of equal length, are they not?
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dwdOh, I suppose.
dwdI should re-nick for proper naming.
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KevAn equilateral quadrilateral is a rhombus, and a regular rhombus is a square.
stpeterhi cchris434
cchris434hello
Dave CridlandKev, So, "Regular equilateral quadrilateral", then?
KevOr just 'regular quadrilateral', as I believe regularity subsumes equilatirality.
KevHoorah for making up words.
Dave CridlandThat's why you get the PhD.
KevThat and I wrote a thesis about samosas.
Dave Cridland6 minutes to go, and we're all here.
Dave CridlandThat's progress.
Dave Cridlandbear, You *are* here, right?
bearcchris434 - if you can, add your blurb to this wiki page: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/the-xsf-board-of-directors/
cchris434yes, I had sent one in--I just add directly to the page
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Dave CridlandI have the power of Greyskull!
bearbangs the gavel for the last meeting of 2011 and first of 2012
stpetercchris434: if you don't have an account at xmpp.org I can create one for you
cchris434yes, thanks, I might need one
stpeterok
stpeterwill do
bearso, only agenda item is welcoming the new board and deciding meeting times, electing of chair?
bear:)
Dave CridlandI think technically we have to appoint all the officers, not just the Chair.
KevIndeed.
Dave Cridland(According to §6.1)
stpeterDave Cridland: let's chat about that
Dave Cridlandstpeter, I'm rather hoping you're willing to continue, along with everyone else.
stpeterDave Cridland: I don't know if the very first meeting is the best time to do that -- last year I suggested to the Board that they do that in, say, January, once they have a bit of knowledge about the organization, bylaws, etc.
Dave CridlandI can go along with that.
Dave CridlandSo we just elect a Chair?
bearand decide a meeting schedule - yep
Dave CridlandRight. What first, then? Should we pick a chair so we have someone who decides what to do next? :-)
bearwhile I enjoyed the time as chair, I feel my work schedule is becoming even more crazy, so don't know if I can focus on Chair duties as I should - so I won't be standing for Chair again unless no one else wants it ;)
Dave CridlandI'm happy to do it.
bearand I'm happy to +1 your request
bearanyone else feel strongly about being chair?
Dave CridlandOr, for that matter, feel strongly about me not being chair?
stpeterAshley / cchris434 / Florian ?
bearwell, I was trying to not be that blunt for a first meeting
Ashleyno
cchris434sounds good to me
FlorianI'm ehre :)
Ashleysince i'm new, i might go rogue
Dave CridlandAshley, I went rogue years ago. The worst thing is that nobody noticed.
Ashleylulz
stpeterDave Cridland: I noticed but decided not to mention it
bearok, then - I nominate Dave for Chair position (if that is even required?) - second?
Dave CridlandDoes anyone not on the board have any strong (negative) opinion about me being chair? It's the best time to mention it if you do, and I'd rather this was taken into account now.
Florian+1
Ashley+1
bear+1
Kevmutters something.
cchris434+1
beartightens the muzzle on Kev till after the first meeting is done
bearok, assuming +1 from Dave - we have a 2012 board chair
Dave CridlandRIght, well, I'll take that as no strong objections from those present, and accept the role, thanks.
bearhands the gavel to Dave
cchris434congrats
Dave CridlandSo, I guess welcome to the 2011-2012 XSF Board.
Florian:)
stpeterconsults the recall provisions in the bylaws
beargolf claps
Dave Cridlandstpeter, Majority of the members.
stpeterBTW, Board members might want to take a look at http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xsf-bylaws/ in their copious spare time
Dave Cridlandstpeter, Oh, or maybe a majority vote of a quorate meeting, I should actually check.
stpeterI think Dave Cridland will make a fine Board chair, given that he uses words like 'quorate'
Florianhaha
stpeterso, is this a fine time for meetings?
bearhas updated the wiki page
FlorianWFM
Dave CridlandOK. So I can be removed as Chair at any time by the Board, and removed from the Board by a majority of the members.
Dave CridlandSO, this is not a fine time for meetings, because it clashes with the XMPP Council.
Florianhmm, an hour later?
stpeteroh, that's right, the Council moved
KevOr 30mins, I heard the Council Chair doesn't like long meetings :)
bearhour later is troublesome for me because of the majority of the mozilla folks are west coast and *love* morning meetings
Florianah, right
stpeterI can do earlier
Dave CridlandI'm going to be a bit stuck if it's 1730UTC every week. I can also do earlier - 1630UTC?
bear30 min earlier works - I like the idea of a tight deadline to focus meetings
cchris434earlier is probably better for me, but understand that we can't do it too early on the East Coast because of time differences
bearbeing one of the east coasters, earlier is preferred
cchris434agreed
Florianok
Ashleyshould be ok with me to do earlier
Dave CridlandAshley, WHat timezone are you? MST or PST?
AshleyMST
bearare we looking at 1600 UTC now or 1630?
Florianboth WFM
Dave Cridlandbear, 1630UTC, so 9:30 am MST, 8:30 am PST, 11:30 am EST.
bear+1
Dave Cridland(Assuming I have my timezone maths right)
stpeterWFM
Floriansounds good
Dave CridlandOK, I'll call that a decision.
cchris434sounds good to me as well
bearedits meeting wiki page
Ashley+1
stpeterBTW, folks can subscribe to the calendars at http://xmpp.org/calendar/ -- I just use xsf-all.ics but YMMV
Dave CridlandOK. So, I think that consludes everything we set out to discuss.
Florianwhen is the next meeting?
Floriannext week?
bearTBH i've hidden the xsf-board calendar - it always was just a dup of the xsf-all
stpeternext week works for me
bearnext week works for me - I feel we need to get one more in before the holidays consume us
Dave CridlandLet's work on the assumption that we have a meeting every week, but we'll cancel it if there's nothing on the agenda.
bear+1
Ashleyyep, i should be good for next week too
cchris434WFM
Dave CridlandIs there any other business to discuss now?
bearisn't aware of any
Floriannot from ehre
Floriannot from here
Ashleyfwiw, i've got a call next week with our marketing person to discuss sponsorship of the dev challenge/hackathon
Floriancool :)
Dave CridlandOkay, that's interesting - Mike, did you raise this with the Mozilla people yet?
Florianwe also need money for the dinner :)
beari've sent out the first emails but need to follow up with some IRC poking
bearthe fosdem person is travelling so I am stalking them
bearadds action item for himself for next week's meeting
Dave CridlandFlorian, Might be worth opening the sponsorship page on that.
Florianhmm, yeah
stpeterbear: yes I need to follow up on those emails, I'm slammed this week with IESG madness
bearasheley, cchris434 - are these jid's your normal ones - I want to send sub requests
cchris434yes
Ashleyyou can use either asroach at cisco.com or aroach at gmail.com
Ashleyor both :)
stpeterheh
Dave Cridlandsends sub requests.
bearsent
Dave CridlandOK. So I think I move to adjourn.
stpetergoes back to reviewing https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-loss-episode-metrics/
bearseconds
Dave Cridlandbangs the shiny new gavel.
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bear\o/
stpeterif someone updates the ical file, say so and we'll push it to the web
stpeteroh heck I'll do that now
bear:)
Dave Cridlandstpeter, Thanks.
Florianthx :)
stpeterso December 7 at 16:30 UTC
bearyep
stpeterdone
beardave - do you want to send out the meeting minutes email or shall I?
Florianah, my apologies
Dave CridlandI can.
FlorianI won't be able to make that
Dave Cridland*Now* you tell us?
Florianas I've got a dinner meeting with Sarkozy
Floriannormally 16:30 is great
Florianjust not next week :D
Florianforgot about that
FlorianI'm in Paris from Tuesday -> Saturday
bearleWeb?
Florianyeh
stpeterruns calgen.py
AshleyFlorian: fancy!
stpeterFlorian: I suppose dinner with Sarkozy is an acceptable excuse