XSF Discussion - 2011-11-30

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  17. dwd

    3600 second warnings of impending meetingness sent...

  18. stpeter


  19. Kev

    Oooh, ooh.

  20. Kev

    If I don't turn up, I can be rhombus :D

  21. Kev

    Or a rhombus, I guess.

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  25. stpeter

    hi Florian

  26. Florian

    hey @ all :)

  27. dwd

    Kev, Depends on your reading of equilateral.

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  29. Kev

    Equilateral polygons are those whose sides are all of equal length, are they not?

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  31. dwd

    Oh, I suppose.

  32. dwd

    I should re-nick for proper naming.

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  34. Kev

    An equilateral quadrilateral is a rhombus, and a regular rhombus is a square.

  35. stpeter

    hi cchris434

  36. cchris434


  37. Dave Cridland

    Kev, So, "Regular equilateral quadrilateral", then?

  38. Kev

    Or just 'regular quadrilateral', as I believe regularity subsumes equilatirality.

  39. Kev

    Hoorah for making up words.

  40. Dave Cridland

    That's why you get the PhD.

  41. Kev

    That and I wrote a thesis about samosas.

  42. Dave Cridland

    6 minutes to go, and we're all here.

  43. Dave Cridland

    That's progress.

  44. Dave Cridland

    bear, You *are* here, right?

  45. bear

    cchris434 - if you can, add your blurb to this wiki page: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/the-xsf-board-of-directors/

  46. cchris434

    yes, I had sent one in--I just add directly to the page

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  49. Dave Cridland

    I have the power of Greyskull!

  50. bear bangs the gavel for the last meeting of 2011 and first of 2012

  51. stpeter

    cchris434: if you don't have an account at xmpp.org I can create one for you

  52. cchris434

    yes, thanks, I might need one

  53. stpeter


  54. stpeter

    will do

  55. bear

    so, only agenda item is welcoming the new board and deciding meeting times, electing of chair?

  56. bear


  57. Dave Cridland

    I think technically we have to appoint all the officers, not just the Chair.

  58. Kev


  59. Dave Cridland

    (According to §6.1)

  60. stpeter

    Dave Cridland: let's chat about that

  61. Dave Cridland

    stpeter, I'm rather hoping you're willing to continue, along with everyone else.

  62. stpeter

    Dave Cridland: I don't know if the very first meeting is the best time to do that -- last year I suggested to the Board that they do that in, say, January, once they have a bit of knowledge about the organization, bylaws, etc.

  63. Dave Cridland

    I can go along with that.

  64. Dave Cridland

    So we just elect a Chair?

  65. bear

    and decide a meeting schedule - yep

  66. Dave Cridland

    Right. What first, then? Should we pick a chair so we have someone who decides what to do next? :-)

  67. bear

    while I enjoyed the time as chair, I feel my work schedule is becoming even more crazy, so don't know if I can focus on Chair duties as I should - so I won't be standing for Chair again unless no one else wants it ;)

  68. Dave Cridland

    I'm happy to do it.

  69. bear

    and I'm happy to +1 your request

  70. bear

    anyone else feel strongly about being chair?

  71. Dave Cridland

    Or, for that matter, feel strongly about me not being chair?

  72. stpeter

    Ashley / cchris434 / Florian ?

  73. bear

    well, I was trying to not be that blunt for a first meeting

  74. Ashley


  75. cchris434

    sounds good to me

  76. Florian

    I'm ehre :)

  77. Ashley

    since i'm new, i might go rogue

  78. Dave Cridland

    Ashley, I went rogue years ago. The worst thing is that nobody noticed.

  79. Ashley


  80. stpeter

    Dave Cridland: I noticed but decided not to mention it

  81. bear

    ok, then - I nominate Dave for Chair position (if that is even required?) - second?

  82. Dave Cridland

    Does anyone not on the board have any strong (negative) opinion about me being chair? It's the best time to mention it if you do, and I'd rather this was taken into account now.

  83. Florian


  84. Ashley


  85. bear


  86. Kev mutters something.

  87. cchris434


  88. bear tightens the muzzle on Kev till after the first meeting is done

  89. bear

    ok, assuming +1 from Dave - we have a 2012 board chair

  90. Dave Cridland

    RIght, well, I'll take that as no strong objections from those present, and accept the role, thanks.

  91. bear hands the gavel to Dave

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  93. Dave Cridland

    So, I guess welcome to the 2011-2012 XSF Board.

  94. Florian


  95. stpeter consults the recall provisions in the bylaws

  96. bear golf claps

  97. Dave Cridland

    stpeter, Majority of the members.

  98. stpeter

    BTW, Board members might want to take a look at http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xsf-bylaws/ in their copious spare time

  99. Dave Cridland

    stpeter, Oh, or maybe a majority vote of a quorate meeting, I should actually check.

  100. stpeter

    I think Dave Cridland will make a fine Board chair, given that he uses words like 'quorate'

  101. Florian


  102. stpeter

    so, is this a fine time for meetings?

  103. bear has updated the wiki page

  104. Florian


  105. Dave Cridland

    OK. So I can be removed as Chair at any time by the Board, and removed from the Board by a majority of the members.

  106. Dave Cridland

    SO, this is not a fine time for meetings, because it clashes with the XMPP Council.

  107. Florian

    hmm, an hour later?

  108. stpeter

    oh, that's right, the Council moved

  109. Kev

    Or 30mins, I heard the Council Chair doesn't like long meetings :)

  110. bear

    hour later is troublesome for me because of the majority of the mozilla folks are west coast and *love* morning meetings

  111. Florian

    ah, right

  112. stpeter

    I can do earlier

  113. Dave Cridland

    I'm going to be a bit stuck if it's 1730UTC every week. I can also do earlier - 1630UTC?

  114. bear

    30 min earlier works - I like the idea of a tight deadline to focus meetings

  115. cchris434

    earlier is probably better for me, but understand that we can't do it too early on the East Coast because of time differences

  116. bear

    being one of the east coasters, earlier is preferred

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  118. Florian


  119. Ashley

    should be ok with me to do earlier

  120. Dave Cridland

    Ashley, WHat timezone are you? MST or PST?

  121. Ashley


  122. bear

    are we looking at 1600 UTC now or 1630?

  123. Florian

    both WFM

  124. Dave Cridland

    bear, 1630UTC, so 9:30 am MST, 8:30 am PST, 11:30 am EST.

  125. bear


  126. Dave Cridland

    (Assuming I have my timezone maths right)

  127. stpeter


  128. Florian

    sounds good

  129. Dave Cridland

    OK, I'll call that a decision.

  130. cchris434

    sounds good to me as well

  131. bear edits meeting wiki page

  132. Ashley


  133. stpeter

    BTW, folks can subscribe to the calendars at http://xmpp.org/calendar/ -- I just use xsf-all.ics but YMMV

  134. Dave Cridland

    OK. So, I think that consludes everything we set out to discuss.

  135. Florian

    when is the next meeting?

  136. Florian

    next week?

  137. bear

    TBH i've hidden the xsf-board calendar - it always was just a dup of the xsf-all

  138. stpeter

    next week works for me

  139. bear

    next week works for me - I feel we need to get one more in before the holidays consume us

  140. Dave Cridland

    Let's work on the assumption that we have a meeting every week, but we'll cancel it if there's nothing on the agenda.

  141. bear


  142. Ashley

    yep, i should be good for next week too

  143. cchris434


  144. Dave Cridland

    Is there any other business to discuss now?

  145. bear isn't aware of any

  146. Florian

    not from ehre

  147. Florian

    not from here

  148. Ashley

    fwiw, i've got a call next week with our marketing person to discuss sponsorship of the dev challenge/hackathon

  149. Florian

    cool :)

  150. Dave Cridland

    Okay, that's interesting - Mike, did you raise this with the Mozilla people yet?

  151. Florian

    we also need money for the dinner :)

  152. bear

    i've sent out the first emails but need to follow up with some IRC poking

  153. bear

    the fosdem person is travelling so I am stalking them

  154. bear adds action item for himself for next week's meeting

  155. Dave Cridland

    Florian, Might be worth opening the sponsorship page on that.

  156. Florian

    hmm, yeah

  157. stpeter

    bear: yes I need to follow up on those emails, I'm slammed this week with IESG madness

  158. bear

    asheley, cchris434 - are these jid's your normal ones - I want to send sub requests

  159. cchris434


  160. Ashley

    you can use either asroach at cisco.com or aroach at gmail.com

  161. Ashley

    or both :)

  162. stpeter


  163. Dave Cridland sends sub requests.

  164. bear


  165. Dave Cridland

    OK. So I think I move to adjourn.

  166. stpeter goes back to reviewing https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-loss-episode-metrics/

  167. bear seconds

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  170. bear


  171. stpeter

    if someone updates the ical file, say so and we'll push it to the web

  172. stpeter

    oh heck I'll do that now

  173. bear


  174. Dave Cridland

    stpeter, Thanks.

  175. Florian

    thx :)

  176. stpeter

    so December 7 at 16:30 UTC

  177. bear


  178. stpeter


  179. bear

    dave - do you want to send out the meeting minutes email or shall I?

  180. Florian

    ah, my apologies

  181. Dave Cridland

    I can.

  182. Florian

    I won't be able to make that

  183. Dave Cridland

    *Now* you tell us?

  184. Florian

    as I've got a dinner meeting with Sarkozy

  185. Florian

    normally 16:30 is great

  186. Florian

    just not next week :D

  187. Florian

    forgot about that

  188. Florian

    I'm in Paris from Tuesday -> Saturday

  189. bear


  190. Florian


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  192. Ashley

    Florian: fancy!

  193. stpeter

    Florian: I suppose dinner with Sarkozy is an acceptable excuse

  194. Florian

    I'll try and pop by via mobile

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