note: Do not forget this group: http://identi.ca/group/xs and http://identi.ca/group/xmpp
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Peter Waher
Hello
jef
helooooo
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Florian
evening all
Zash
o/
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dwd
Evening all.
kevin
Evening
stpeter
howdy
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hi
Marc
hello all, how are u all?
stpeter
hi Marc
kevin
stpeter: how are you today?
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Alex
hi everybody
kevin
hi
stpeter
kevin: actually a bit under the weather, thanks for asking
stpeter
hi Alex!
Florian
hi Alex
Marc
>stpeter: hi Marc
how are you???
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Alex
ok guys
Alexbangs the gavel
Alex
Here is our agenda for today:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2012-01-10/
Alex
1) Call for Quorum
Alex
as you can see 36 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum
dwd
Looks like we're quorate, indeed.
stpeter
I voted (but I didn't get around to it until a few hours ago!)
Alex
<a, good turnout
Marc
huh, confused :S
Alex
2) Items Subject to a Vote
Alex
new and returning memebrs, you can see all applications here:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q4_2011
Alex
3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
Marc
can i vote?
Alex
anybody wants to vote i nthe meeting?
Marc
sure
dwd
Marc, Are you a member?
Marc
nope
Florian
in that case, you can't :)
Alex
when you tell me your real name
Marc
i wanna join tho
dwd
Marc, Only XSF Members may vote.
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Marc
my real name is Marcus :)
Marc
okay , guess i will shut up then
stpeter
Marcus: we will have another membership application period starting soon after this meeting is done :)
Marc
Carry on
Alex
I will open the new application page tomorrow, then you can apply and vote soon ;-)
Marc
Thank you
Alex
ok, then I prepare the results
stpeter
super
Zash
Drumroll?
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Alex
4) Announcement of Voting Results
Alex
When you reload the page at:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2012-01-10/
you can see the results
Alex
all new and returning members were accepted
dwd
Everyone made it, then.
Alex
yes
Zash
\o/
dwd
Mind you, I thought we had a particularly good crop this time around.
Peter Waher
:)
dwd
Zash, Welcome to the XSF. :-)
Zash
Thanks
dwd
Peter Waher, And you, too.
Peter Waher
Thank you :)
dwd
Now, guys, just remember to come to the Summit.
stpeter
heh
stpeter
yeah
Alex
5) Any Other Business?
stpeter
come to FOSDEM and the XMPP Summit!
dwd
And do talks, and demos, and bring your wallets for sponsorship. :-)
Alex
the € is in crises, wallet is empty ;-)
stpeter
yeah
stpeter
at least my dollars will go farther this time :)
Alex
yes :D
Alex
more beer for the dollars
stpeter
heh
stpeter
yeah
stpeter
Florian found an inexpensive hotel this time
Alex
just kidding, we are serious guys, no beer only work. Otherwise Marc will not join us ;-)
stpeter
but no other business here
Alex
6) Formal Adjournment
Marc
>Alex: just kidding, we are serious guys, no beer only work. Otherwise Marc will not join us
LOL hey i like beer too :D
Alex
I motion that we adjourn
Steven Parkes
second
Alexbangs the gavel
stpeter
thank you, Alex, as always!
Alex
no problem
kevin
1 beer for me please!
Marc
i am from the uk after all :D
Kev
Thanks Alex.
Marc
*follows everyone* thanks Alex
Peter Waher
Where/how is the best location/method for starting forming interest groups withing xmpp.org ?
Alexadds the new members to the mailing list
stpeter
Peter Waher: what interest group are you interested in?
stpeter
typically we discuss technical topics on the standards@xmpp.org list and organizational topics on the members@xmpp.org list
Peter Waher
ok
Peter Waher
I'm currently interested in three areas
stpeter
there's a list of lsits at http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo
Peter Waher
1) Sensor networks
Peter Waher
2) Distributed social networks
Peter Waher
3) Extensions of semantic web to p2p networks
kevin
Marc: hows weather there?
Peter Waher
How do I best come in contact with members interested in similar topics?
Peter Waher
Mailing to above mailing lists?
MiGri
thats one goos way
MiGri
*good
stpeter
Peter Waher: I've been talking with other people interested in sensor networks and smartgrid and such -- I might start a new discussion list about that topic
Peter Waher
excellent. :)
stpeter
Peter Waher: there is definitely some interest in that topic among a small but active community of people
Zash
(mailing lists need pep-style filtering)
stpeter
as to distributed social networks, we have some talks now and then with the OStatus / StatusNet / etc. folks
Kev
And BuddyCloud, most notably.
Marc
>kevin: Marc: hows weather there?
damp and cold :| hows the weather there?
stpeter
kev: indeed
kevin
Marc: too Cold : D
Peter Waher
We're interested in building social network applications based on XMPP and Plug Computers
Marc
>kevin: Marc: too Cold : D
what its cold there too? oh and join my website now :)
Peter Waher
which would help users maintain ownership control of the life cycle of published information
stpeter
Peter Waher: sounds interesting
stpeter
Peter Waher: you'll definitely want to chat with the BuddyCloud guys
Zash
Related to Freedom box?
stpeter
Peter Waher: we have a list for XMPP and social networking at http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/social
dwd
stpeter, I was going to say, the buddycloud guys have built a distributed social network on the back of XMPP.
stpeter
dwd: yes indeed
Alex
you are all subscribed now
Peter Waher
Looks interesting. Will definitely have a look at what they offer and see if we can work together somehow.
stpeter
Peter Waher: cool
dwd
Peter Waher, buddycloud is about as open as you could hope for, the only problem is they're weak on formal docs about the protocol.
stpeter
Peter Waher: where are you located? several BuddyCloud folks and other federated social web people will be at FOSDEM / XMPP Summit (that reminds me, I need to follow up with Simon about that...)
dwd
Peter Waher, But they'll all be at the SUmmit.
Marc
>Peter Waher: We're interested in building social network applications based on XMPP and Plug Computers
i am intergrating xmpp/jabber into my website :)
Marc
so you can join rooms nad such :)
Marc
and*
Peter Waher
I'm located in Sweden. I was thinking about perhaps going to the summit if time allows.
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Peter Waher
It would be a great way to share ideas and find peers interested in similar topics
dwd
imaginator, Hi Simon.
Marc
>Peter Waher: It would be a great way to share ideas and find peers interested in similar topics
indeed
imaginator
Hi Dave. Simon here.
dwd
Peter Waher, imaginator is Simon Tennant, the founder of buddycloud.
Peter Waher
Hello Simon
kevin
Hi Simon!
Peter Waher
Just got introduced to buddycloud
imaginator
so one of the buddycloud projects (sponsored by Google) is the taste engine that looks through channels / pubsub nodes and finds similar followers.
imaginator
https://github.com/buddycloud/channel-directory
imaginator
Hi Peter and Kev.
dwd
imaginator, I was also going to bug you about looking at XEP-0309 in relation to buddycloud channels.
Marc
Hi Simon :)
imaginator
I've not seen that before. How does 309 deal with getting a wider view rather than just a per-server?
imaginator
to me this is the real value of Abmar's code. Since jid's are universal - it can get better ideas of taste from looking across multiple open nodes on multiple servers.
dwd
imaginator, XEP-0309 is newly minted today. But it acts as a central registry service for other services to register themselves with.
dwd
imaginator, I think it's primarily aimed at replacing the existing server list on xmpp.org, but it could be extended easily, I think, to act as a directory of channels ervers, or channels.
dwd
imaginator, But anyway - reason I poked you was because Peter Waher was talking about wanting to work on distributed social networking. I think you may know a thing or two about it...
Peter Waher
Tried to add you as a contact so we could chat later, but it seems I can't get user info about your user. What's you JID?
Marc
Hi all, i have a qestion?
imaginator
Regarding the standardisation bits of bc. AT the moment it's been all kept on https://buddycloud.org/wiki/XMPP_XEP but I'd like to start XEP-ing and looking for improvements as more people and servers start to be run.
Marc
what is better to run a jabber/xmpp server? ejabberd or openfire
stpeter
Marc: that depends on your requirements :)
imaginator
Peter - simon@buddycloud.com - always happy to chat.
Marc
well i want to use msn and so on,
imaginatorwill also be at FOSDEM
Marc
and it cannot take to much of my pc memory, as i am running a crappy pc for a server atm
dwd
Marc, There's lots of other servers aside from ejabberd and Openfire, too.
Marc
>dwd: Marc, There's lots of other servers aside from ejabberd and Openfire, too.
okay can you tell me some please
dwd
http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/servers/
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welcome bacK Alex
Marc
and another question, i have spectrum, but i do not know how to add it to ejabbed :(
stpeter
ok, I'm going to head home soon because I'm not feeling all that well, I'll be back a bit later
stpeter
imaginator: do we need to follow up with the FSW folks about their schedule in Brussels
Marc
>stpeter: ok, I'm going to head home soon because I'm not feeling all that well, I'll be back a bit later
okay cya, and get well soon
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stpeter
imaginator: e.g., time on Friday, some talks on Saturday in the xmpp devroom?
kevin
stpeter: bye have a nice day!
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imaginator: will ping you via some other technology, I need to log off now
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Kev
imaginator: Hi.
Kev
Sorry, was AFK, rather than ignoring.
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Peter Waher
Thanks for today. Talk to you later.
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Marc
wb Kev
MattJ
http://logs.xmpp.org/
MattJ
and there was much rejoicing
Kev
Thansk.
MattJ
Thants
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Kev
"Lord Zash has tasked me with sorting through you refuse to find one worthy of being her apprentice, and I intend to do just that."
Kev
Something you're not telling us?
Zash
Ehrm.
Zash
What?
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Kev
Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Kev
Lord Zash seems to be a female Sith lord.
Kev
Congratulations.
Zash
Nice.
dwd
Zash, I'd just like you to know that I'm not even smiling. Not even a tiny bit.
Kev
That's Lord Zash to you, slave...
Kev
Ahem.
Kev
I'm finding this very convincing.
Zash
( Actually probable origin of my nick: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zasz )
Zash
There's also a "Major League Lacrosse" player named Zash :/
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dwd
ralphm, About?
dwd
ralphm, We seem to have a stand in AW - is this as well as the Realtime Lounge™?
dwd
ralphm, Because I'm not sure we really want both. Although it'd be great for doing Jingle calls between them, I suppose.
MattJ
:)
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ralphm
dwd: well, they assigned that space in AW as a regular stand, but if we just present a nice place, we will /instead/ get the spot in K
ralphm
dwd: I haven't followed the stuff much this week. I'll try to look into what we have tomorrow
dwd
Ah, OK.
ralphm
Let's then see what we have, and come up with some prose
ralphm
dwd: do you have some preferred time slot for that?