XSF Discussion - 2012-01-10

note: Do not forget this group: http://identi.ca/group/xs and http://identi.ca/group/xmpp

Hello

helooooo

evening all

o/

Evening all.

Evening

howdy

hi

hello all, how are u all?

hi Marc

stpeter: how are you today?

hi everybody

hi

kevin: actually a bit under the weather, thanks for asking

hi Alex!

hi Alex

>stpeter: hi Marc how are you???

ok guys

Here is our agenda for today: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2012-01-10/

1) Call for Quorum

as you can see 36 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum

Looks like we're quorate, indeed.

I voted (but I didn't get around to it until a few hours ago!)

<a, good turnout

huh, confused :S

2) Items Subject to a Vote

new and returning memebrs, you can see all applications here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q4_2011

3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting

can i vote?

anybody wants to vote i nthe meeting?

sure

Marc, Are you a member?

nope

in that case, you can't :)

when you tell me your real name

i wanna join tho

Marc, Only XSF Members may vote.

my real name is Marcus :)

okay , guess i will shut up then

Marcus: we will have another membership application period starting soon after this meeting is done :)

Carry on

I will open the new application page tomorrow, then you can apply and vote soon ;-)

Thank you

ok, then I prepare the results

super

Drumroll?

4) Announcement of Voting Results

When you reload the page at: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2012-01-10/ you can see the results

all new and returning members were accepted

Everyone made it, then.

yes

\o/

Mind you, I thought we had a particularly good crop this time around.

:)

Zash, Welcome to the XSF. :-)

Thanks

Peter Waher, And you, too.

Thank you :)

Now, guys, just remember to come to the Summit.

heh

yeah

5) Any Other Business?

come to FOSDEM and the XMPP Summit!

And do talks, and demos, and bring your wallets for sponsorship. :-)

the € is in crises, wallet is empty ;-)

yeah

at least my dollars will go farther this time :)

yes :D

more beer for the dollars

heh

yeah

Florian found an inexpensive hotel this time

just kidding, we are serious guys, no beer only work. Otherwise Marc will not join us ;-)

but no other business here

6) Formal Adjournment

>Alex: just kidding, we are serious guys, no beer only work. Otherwise Marc will not join us LOL hey i like beer too :D

I motion that we adjourn

second

thank you, Alex, as always!

no problem

1 beer for me please!

i am from the uk after all :D

Thanks Alex.

*follows everyone* thanks Alex

Where/how is the best location/method for starting forming interest groups withing xmpp.org ?

Peter Waher: what interest group are you interested in?

typically we discuss technical topics on the standards@xmpp.org list and organizational topics on the members@xmpp.org list

ok

I'm currently interested in three areas

there's a list of lsits at http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo

1) Sensor networks

2) Distributed social networks

3) Extensions of semantic web to p2p networks

Marc: hows weather there?

How do I best come in contact with members interested in similar topics?

Mailing to above mailing lists?

thats one goos way

*good

Peter Waher: I've been talking with other people interested in sensor networks and smartgrid and such -- I might start a new discussion list about that topic

excellent. :)

Peter Waher: there is definitely some interest in that topic among a small but active community of people

(mailing lists need pep-style filtering)

as to distributed social networks, we have some talks now and then with the OStatus / StatusNet / etc. folks

And BuddyCloud, most notably.

>kevin: Marc: hows weather there? damp and cold :| hows the weather there?

kev: indeed

Marc: too Cold : D

We're interested in building social network applications based on XMPP and Plug Computers

>kevin: Marc: too Cold : D what its cold there too? oh and join my website now :)

which would help users maintain ownership control of the life cycle of published information

Peter Waher: sounds interesting

Peter Waher: you'll definitely want to chat with the BuddyCloud guys

Related to Freedom box?

Peter Waher: we have a list for XMPP and social networking at http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/social

stpeter, I was going to say, the buddycloud guys have built a distributed social network on the back of XMPP.

dwd: yes indeed

you are all subscribed now

Looks interesting. Will definitely have a look at what they offer and see if we can work together somehow.

Peter Waher: cool

Peter Waher, buddycloud is about as open as you could hope for, the only problem is they're weak on formal docs about the protocol.

Peter Waher: where are you located? several BuddyCloud folks and other federated social web people will be at FOSDEM / XMPP Summit (that reminds me, I need to follow up with Simon about that...)

Peter Waher, But they'll all be at the SUmmit.

>Peter Waher: We're interested in building social network applications based on XMPP and Plug Computers i am intergrating xmpp/jabber into my website :)

so you can join rooms nad such :)

and*

I'm located in Sweden. I was thinking about perhaps going to the summit if time allows.

It would be a great way to share ideas and find peers interested in similar topics

imaginator, Hi Simon.

>Peter Waher: It would be a great way to share ideas and find peers interested in similar topics indeed

Hi Dave. Simon here.

Peter Waher, imaginator is Simon Tennant, the founder of buddycloud.

Hello Simon

Hi Simon!

Just got introduced to buddycloud

so one of the buddycloud projects (sponsored by Google) is the taste engine that looks through channels / pubsub nodes and finds similar followers.

https://github.com/buddycloud/channel-directory

Hi Peter and Kev.

imaginator, I was also going to bug you about looking at XEP-0309 in relation to buddycloud channels.

Hi Simon :)

I've not seen that before. How does 309 deal with getting a wider view rather than just a per-server?

to me this is the real value of Abmar's code. Since jid's are universal - it can get better ideas of taste from looking across multiple open nodes on multiple servers.

imaginator, XEP-0309 is newly minted today. But it acts as a central registry service for other services to register themselves with.

imaginator, I think it's primarily aimed at replacing the existing server list on xmpp.org, but it could be extended easily, I think, to act as a directory of channels ervers, or channels.

imaginator, But anyway - reason I poked you was because Peter Waher was talking about wanting to work on distributed social networking. I think you may know a thing or two about it...

Tried to add you as a contact so we could chat later, but it seems I can't get user info about your user. What's you JID?

Hi all, i have a qestion?

Regarding the standardisation bits of bc. AT the moment it's been all kept on https://buddycloud.org/wiki/XMPP_XEP but I'd like to start XEP-ing and looking for improvements as more people and servers start to be run.

what is better to run a jabber/xmpp server? ejabberd or openfire

Marc: that depends on your requirements :)

Peter - simon@buddycloud.com - always happy to chat.

well i want to use msn and so on,

and it cannot take to much of my pc memory, as i am running a crappy pc for a server atm

Marc, There's lots of other servers aside from ejabberd and Openfire, too.

>dwd: Marc, There's lots of other servers aside from ejabberd and Openfire, too. okay can you tell me some please

http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/servers/

welcome bacK Alex

and another question, i have spectrum, but i do not know how to add it to ejabbed :(

ok, I'm going to head home soon because I'm not feeling all that well, I'll be back a bit later

imaginator: do we need to follow up with the FSW folks about their schedule in Brussels

>stpeter: ok, I'm going to head home soon because I'm not feeling all that well, I'll be back a bit later okay cya, and get well soon

imaginator: e.g., time on Friday, some talks on Saturday in the xmpp devroom?

stpeter: bye have a nice day!

imaginator: will ping you via some other technology, I need to log off now

imaginator: Hi.

Sorry, was AFK, rather than ignoring.

Thanks for today. Talk to you later.

wb Kev

http://logs.xmpp.org/

and there was much rejoicing

Thansk.

Thants

"Lord Zash has tasked me with sorting through you refuse to find one worthy of being her apprentice, and I intend to do just that."

Something you're not telling us?

Ehrm.

What?

Star Wars: The Old Republic.

Lord Zash seems to be a female Sith lord.

Congratulations.

Nice.

Zash, I'd just like you to know that I'm not even smiling. Not even a tiny bit.

That's Lord Zash to you, slave...

Ahem.

I'm finding this very convincing.

( Actually probable origin of my nick: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zasz )

There's also a "Major League Lacrosse" player named Zash :/

ralphm, About?

ralphm, We seem to have a stand in AW - is this as well as the Realtime Lounge™?

ralphm, Because I'm not sure we really want both. Although it'd be great for doing Jingle calls between them, I suppose.

:)

dwd: well, they assigned that space in AW as a regular stand, but if we just present a nice place, we will /instead/ get the spot in K

dwd: I haven't followed the stuff much this week. I'll try to look into what we have tomorrow

Ah, OK.

Let's then see what we have, and come up with some prose

dwd: do you have some preferred time slot for that?